Greengenes Apache AT600 Garden- Blackberry Kush

chazbolin said:

They never really hit my radar but I checked out the reviews on Book of Mormon and it looks like a hell of a show. Another add to the bucket list.

Just got back from seeing Sole Survivor. You know its a good movie when the audience is clapping at the end! It makes you wonder if we have policies and the commitment to see it through that will ever stabilize that portion of the world. Try as we might our guys fight with one hand tied behind their backs and seeing what we're fighting for over there it's no wonder the Afghani perfected hash.

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It's a good, funny show. If you like South Park humor, you'd definitely like Book of Mormon. I was just amazed to see the amount of older people there because I think they're expecting some sort of formal Broadway show and 5 mins into the opening act there's already words like "fuck", "dick", "pussy", etc... being thrown around.....

TBH, I thought the show was more of a let down because I personally think they relied too much on curse words to try and make it funny....

to each its own I guess...

PetFlora said:

UL approval is a big $$$$$$

Don't see led panels starting fires

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In big greenhouses and high humidity situations shorts and what not are a concern. LED's are no doubt safer, but there still needs to be a certification to show it.

Apache is UL and CUL, so Canada get ready.

GG: Perhaps you would know this. Is there an industry standard in LED panels to conformal coat the circuit boards to prevent moisture damage where vent ports would presumably be a means of entry at lights out? Phillips sealed their passively cooled greenlight interlighting series strips and conformal coat their boards for this reason. I suspect that high quality actively cooled panels like AT, which are specifically designed for harsh commercial environments, address this with conformal coating but I would be willing to bet many of the lower quality LED competitors do not address this and the likelihood of board failures or cascading string failures is increased. For the commercial crop production manager interested in installing actively cooled LED panels I would want to know that any manufacturer I recommend will have taken this into account so that oxidation related failures would not be a factor in a year or two.

I am worried that my girls are starting to fade a little too soon. They have about 3 1/2 weeks left and they are starting to lighten up in color. The undersides are showing the purple so I don't know if it's a deficiency or just the color change effect.

Any thoughts

On the purpling you might be getting too much of a temp swing and/or low night temps. Check your night temps you might just be in need of a heater.

Greengenes707 said:

I am worried that my girls are starting to fade a little too soon. They have about 3 1/2 weeks left and they are starting to lighten up in color. The undersides are showing the purple so I don't know if it's a deficiency or just the color change effect.

Any thoughts

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do a tea with fish hydroslate and kelp meal (not extract). Water more often. Looks like they could be almost drying out and sucking up all nutes before next watering. Inducing a fade. Seeds sprout teas with mung beans help quite a bit too.

chazbolin said:

On the purpling you might be getting too much of a temp swing and/or low night temps. Check your night temps you might just be in need of a heater.

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That is why they are purpling, but I wonder if the two are linked?
Temps go as low as 60* and max at 81*. But not much I can do about that for this run.

hyroot said:

do a tea with fish hydroslate and kelp meal (not extract). Water more often. Looks like they could be almost drying out and sucking up all nutes before next watering. Inducing a fade. Seeds sprout teas with mung beans help quite a bit too.

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The root mass is so big they are just sucking them dry in a day. I'm watering every other night. They could be getting root bound. I won't be afraid of feeing them and tea boost.

If root bound, the seeds sprout teas will definitely do the trick.. All the enzymes and minerals.

Some shots from day 35

Overall things are dong good. I can see where I need to improve next time, but nothing is terribly off. I will probably run 9plants/4x4 in 5gal fabrics. And I will mix the soil full strength, instead of cutting it. No SCROG net because I like to be able to rotate and move my plants. I will be changing strains too, 95% set on blue dream. That should be key to really getting some record yields.

Don't get me wrong, this run is killer, and I'm really excited to smoke it. Now that this is my own grow space, I am free to do what ever I need/want to it. I will get it dialed more each run. Hopefully I will pop some beans soon and find the ultimate keeper and then genetics won't keep changing too.

Greengenes707 said:

Some shots from day 35

Overall things are dong good. I can see where I need to improve next time, but nothing is terribly off. I will probably run 9plants/4x4 in 5gal fabrics. And I will mix the soil full strength, instead of cutting it. No SCROG net because I like to be able to rotate and move my plants. I will be changing strains too, 95% set on blue dream. That should be key to really getting some record yields.

Don't get me wrong, this run is killer, and I'm really excited to smoke it. Now that this is my own grow space, I am free to do what ever I need/want to it. I will get it dialed more each run. Hopefully I will pop some beans soon and find the ultimate keeper and then genetics won't keep changing too.

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Stellar grow! beautiful plants nice canopy. WELL DONE!

Greengenes707 said:

Some shots from day 35

Overall things are dong good. I can see where I need to improve next time, but nothing is terribly off. I will probably run 9plants/4x4 in 5gal fabrics. And I will mix the soil full strength, instead of cutting it. No SCROG net because I like to be able to rotate and move my plants. I will be changing strains too, 95% set on blue dream. That should be key to really getting some record yields.

Don't get me wrong, this run is killer, and I'm really excited to smoke it. Now that this is my own grow space, I am free to do what ever I need/want to it. I will get it dialed more each run. Hopefully I will pop some beans soon and find the ultimate keeper and then genetics won't keep changing too.

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Sounds good about the changes for next round. That's funny you are thinking about fewer plants in bigger pots. I was thinking about doing the same, might go 4 in 3g pots instead of 6 in 2g's...same total volume so maybe I should go up to 5?...how many weeks you plan on vegging the 5gal's? But back to your grow...shit looks amazing. I bet the smell is stellar. Can't wait to see you do work on blue dream. Peace and keep up the great work.

I think I'm going to up my pots too. 15 gal or 10 gal plastic. Not because all the tga guys do it. I'm sick of watering every 4 days with 7 gal fabric pots and constantly brewing teas. I only want to water once a week. Nop way will plants get root bound in a 10 gal or 15 gal plastic pot. Maybe still get fabric ones just because They are cheaper than the same size plastic pots.

GreenSanta said:

Stellar grow! beautiful plants nice canopy. WELL DONE!

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Thank man

puffenuff said:

Sounds good about the changes for next round. That's funny you are thinking about fewer plants in bigger pots. I was thinking about doing the same, might go 4 in 3g pots instead of 6 in 2g's...same total volume so maybe I should go up to 5?...how many weeks you plan on vegging the 5gal's? But back to your grow...shit looks amazing. I bet the smell is stellar. Can't wait to see you do work on blue dream. Peace and keep up the great work.

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Thanks brother.

With blue dream 3 weeks should be more than enough for me in the 5gals. I just vegged these BBK too long waiting for them to recover.

My dad always does 5gal HD buckets and he kills me with yields. He is the simplest grower I know and gets some of the best results indoors or out. I never feel like he is maximizing his space but then he out yields me, so time to listen. I'm trying to make it more like outdoor and less like a system...just let them grow and thrive.

hyroot said:

I think I'm going to up my pots too. 15 gal or 10 gal plastic. Not because all the tga guys do it. I'm sick of watering every 4 days with 7 gal fabric pots and constantly brewing teas. I only want to water once a week. Nop way will plants get root bound in a 10 gal or 15 gal plastic pot. Maybe still get fabric ones just because They are cheaper than the same size plastic pots.

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More roots=more fruits. And for us soil guys 15gal isn't as big as it is for hydro.
I'm watering every other in these 3gal fabrics. 5gal is a big difference from 3. For you 15 is much(2X) bigger than 7, I imagine if you go up you will be rewarded. I just don't want to put the veg time in, so I'm trying to find the best situation for plant#/containers/grow style to maximize my space. I have some plants numbers to work with so I try things...but if I was back in social with low limits, I would just vegg monsters and take the time.
Amazing how cheap fabric pots are now days. Love it.

I grow in 10 gallons and i water every other day hyroot. I save 20 plus gallons will have u watering once a week

foreverflyhi said:

I grow in 10 gallons and i water every other day hyroot. I save 20 plus gallons will have u watering once a week

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how much do you water each plant?. I water every 4 days with 7 gals. I give each one a gallon of water or tea

Greengenes707 said:

Thank man



Thanks brother.

With blue dream 3 weeks should be more than enough for me in the 5gals. I just vegged these BBK too long waiting for them to recover.

My dad always does 5gal HD buckets and he kills me with yields. He is the simplest grower I know and gets some of the best results indoors or out. I never feel like he is maximizing his space but then he out yields me, so time to listen. I'm trying to make it more like outdoor and less like a system...just let them grow and thrive.


More roots=more fruits. And for us soil guys 15gal isn't as big as it is for hydro.
I'm watering every other in these 3gal fabrics. 5gal is a big difference from 3. For you 15 is much(2X) bigger than 7, I imagine if you go up you will be rewarded. I just don't want to put the veg time in, so I'm trying to find the best situation for plant#/containers/grow style to maximize my space. I have some plants numbers to work with so I try things...but if I was back in social with low limits, I would just vegg monsters and take the time.
Amazing how cheap fabric pots are now days. Love it.

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if u dont want to water often stop using smart pots! If watering is such a big chore why dont you go with blumats?

GreenSanta said:

if u dont want to water often stop using smart pots! If watering is such a big chore why dont you go with blumats?

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I don't have a problem watering often...hyroot does.
I just want bigger pots for yield and root mass purposes.

Do you not like fabric pots?

Yup thats sounds about right, gallon a plant, i once was curious to dig a deep hole in one of my pots and found a huge dry spot, i realized that not only i was watering wrong, but i also wasnt watering enough, so i upped the water and carefully water each plant.

foreverflyhi said:

Yup thats sounds about right, gallon a plant, i once was curious to dig a deep hole in one of my pots and found a huge dry spot, i realized that not only i was watering wrong, but i also wasnt watering enough, so i upped the water and carefully water each plant.

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my rule of thumb is 16 -18 oz of water per gallon of soil. So for 10 I would do almost 1 1/2 gallons of water