Glycerin Tincture 101

Discussion in 'Subcool's Old School Organics' started by subcool, Jan 20, 2008.

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    jtrbushes

    jtrbushes Active Member

    I just read this whole thread and didn't see a recommended dosage. Maybe I missed it?

    Sub, if I made a batch per your directions, what would be an "in the ball park" recommended dosage for a bigger guy that medicates with TGA gear every day? Couple drops? Full dropper? Two droppers?
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    nl3004.kind

    nl3004.kind Active Member

    start with one drop and work up... i know some folks who can take a tablespoon as a dose, some who can only take a drop or two to wreck their whole day... it is all about how you as an individual metabolize cannabis either orally ingested or sublingually...
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    Rrog

    Rrog Well-Known Member

    Great thread on glycerin tinctures. Based on that data table of temps and effects on the cannabinoids, 120F would decarboxylate, meaning it would get you stoned by eating it. Subs groovy recipe calls for 150F for 10 minutes so I would think it was decarboxylated and ready and next stop: stoned city. But Sub says this tinc does not get you high (it's for pain, etc).

    I'm confused. I want an edible tincture to get me stoned and this seemed perfect
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    kindnugz

    kindnugz Active Member

    I'm following this recipe but my material absorbed all of my glycerin and is a very pasty oatmeal-like consistency.

    Can I hit this with a little water to loosen it up? Maybe then I can steam off the water later once it is strained. I'm just wondering how moist the material should be.
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    kindnugz

    kindnugz Active Member

    Like I said in my last post a few weeks ago, I followed a similar recipe but used a pressure cooker to boil the jar at 250 degrees F for three 6-8 hour sessions. In between the mash was kept at 180 in a crock pot.

    After a week I strained it and now I have about 8 oz. of glycerin tincture. As subcool said, it doesn't get me high, but it relieves my aches and pains in a subtle but effective way. If I want to get baked, I blast some tubes but this works for me in the rare instances when I need pain relief but can't be high/ LOL!

    I wonder if I damaged the THC with the high heat?

    I plan to distribute it to my testing team to see what they think then will donate it to patients in need.
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    Endur0xX

    Endur0xX Well-Known Member

    am I missing something? Sub says to cook at the end for 10 minutes but here on the thread everybody is cooking it for days and shit in crockpots?


    So here is what I am going to do please correct me if its wrong.:

    I grind my pot
    I add glycerine
    I shake 3 minutes everyday for 60 days
    I filter the pot out of the tincture
    I cook it for 10 minutes
    tadahh!!!


    right? let me know if I am missing something I am not trying to get high with this just wanting to test out the pain relief effects of it all, thanks a bunch.

    By the way thanks again subcool to share you knowledge
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    Endur0xX

    Endur0xX Well-Known Member

    I dont know for you guys but my glycerin is so thick (got 1L from a local store for 25$) , shaking is useless and not an option, I manage to fill the jar so that there is only a tiny air bubble in it. So for this first batch I will probably flip the jar twice a day for 40ish days. Unless someone tells me that the full 60 days is required for the THC to transform into Delta in the liver, then I would do the 60 days. Looking forward to try it out, already got a few people with chronic pain that are wanting to try it, I am thinking of doing another batch right away.

    What do you guys think of using popcorn and less potent buds to make it? (or bud that wasnt quite ready to be harvested)

    Also, Sub says to use a clean DRY jar, and it got me thinking (for my next batch anyway...) would it be best to let the buds and trims dry on the counter for a couple days so there is 0 moisture in the green matter?

    Thanks a bunch
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    dank smoker420

    dank smoker420 Well-Known Member

    with heating it to 150f the thc is being decarbed. is it better for it to be decarbed or stay in THCA? with it being decarbed you have more of a chance to get the high from it. are the effects or benefits different?
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    Endur0xX

    Endur0xX Well-Known Member

    was thinking of skipping this last step would like to see what others have to say. But with what I just learned recently I think I want to keep it as a THCA, but I think that 10 min below 150 is just to evaporate the humidity, I think it will stay THCA.
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    Endur0xX

    Endur0xX Well-Known Member

    Ok . Since there is a lot of confusion (you can tell from reading this thread or the feedback on this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi7Ngz1eQfg&feature=related) I thought I would share what I am doing now and share the results later.

    So the one jar I did like Subcool and it will be flipped twice a day for 60 days.
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    Now the guy in this same video says he gets high with his tincture but only waited 4 days. I am guessing that the longer you wait the less potent it gets as far as High goes?

    Anyway the other jar I put a bunch of leaves that were in the freezer for hash (non dried) in a jar and poured the rest of the glycerine ( this container isnt full like the good one ) And I am planning on shaking it a few times a day for 7 days and filter it, see if it gets me high. This is an experiment for personal consumption to see if I prefer this liquid to making my hash with the trim.
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    I will use a french press to get the green out. IMG_6594.jpg
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    Endur0xX

    Endur0xX Well-Known Member

    ok, I did only a few days with the wet frozen trim, used the french press (thanks Sub great tip 20$ at walmart). In the stove at 140 for 10-15 minutes. One tablespoon of this stuff and I get the effects pretty quick. I feel like I am getting a better deal than making hash with the trim. I will dry it properly next time though and let it go longer with the glycerin, I was just in a panic to try it out and bret1maverick on youtube had said he was getting high with his after only a few days.

    The smaller jar is being flipped a few times a day and will go the full 60days as planned.

    What makes the final product more of a painkiller, what exactly is happening in the 60 days process other than absorbing thc? I guess the longer the process the smaller the dosage? and people that are using it as a painkiller simply use less of it? I sure like the high.

    Thanks.
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    KidneyStoner420

    KidneyStoner420 Well-Known Member

    I started a veg gly tinc about a week ago. Only about a cup so far though. I plan on making lollipops/hard candy with it.
    I'm gonna keep adding to it as the 60 days goes on and see how it is in the lollipops.
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    Endur0xX

    Endur0xX Well-Known Member

    I had a cardholder patient trying my glycerin tincture that had sat only for 30 days, and she loves it! She doesnt like to get high and smokes very little because of it. She loved the effects of the tincture and it is truly working for her. I am starting 2 jars as of today, 1 will go 30 days the other the full 60 so we can compare.

    I just thought I would share my experience with it since there isnt much info on the internet, I will definitely keep making glycerin tincture, I will start experimenting with the trim only.

    I have one batch that I think I will have to throw away, the trim had a slight funky smell to them, so I am not sure something was bad in it but I see a bunch of small black dots all over the leaves that looks like mold and I think that if the leaves were fine to start with it is because the jar was not being rotated every day, I was away working and of course my woman would always forget to do it so I only shoook it once every 4-5 days. So yeah I ll throw this batch in the garbage I would strongly recommend not skipping a day.
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    KidneyStoner420

    KidneyStoner420 Well-Known Member

    Ok, sounds good! What did you use for trim? Bud? Sugar leaves?
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    Endur0xX

    Endur0xX Well-Known Member

    I had about 1/3 sugar leaves, 1/3 grinded buds and 1/3 whole buds

    and I pay 25$ for 1L food grade vegetable glycerin
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    KidneyStoner420

    KidneyStoner420 Well-Known Member

    Are you going to heat up your new batches when you are ready to strain?
    I'm thinking I'm going to try it, though the write-up i read never mentioned it.
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    Endur0xX

    Endur0xX Well-Known Member

    I forgot to say, the batch that I had going for 30 days I forgot to heat it, I am not sure that step is necessary, needs more trial, keep me updated!
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    KidneyStoner420

    KidneyStoner420 Well-Known Member

    Will do. I want to make Jolly Rancher size hard candys. Can't find a good candy mold though.
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    Endur0xX

    Endur0xX Well-Known Member

    how do you make them?
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    Endur0xX

    Endur0xX Well-Known Member









    • Glycerin is a neutral, sweet-tasting, colorless, thick liquid which freezes to a gummy paste and which has a high boiling point. Glycerin can be dissolved into water or alcohol, but not oils.
      Glycerin is also highly "hygroscopic" which means that it absorbs water from the air.
      Glycerin must be diluted with water or it may cause blistering.
      Steep for 60 Days, French Press to Strain
      Heat to 212 for 5 Minutes to Decarboxylate"




    I found this in Matt Rize`s bubble hash thread. I thought I would post it since it has a different way of heating at the end of the process. I think Sub said 10 min at 150?. So if anybody has pointers on that, that would be great for now I will do 7 min at 180 (sort of in between haha)

    I know nobody seems to be all that interested but I am gonna keep posting my experiments on here and maybe someday someone will appreciate all the infos, or not, dont matter.

    So here I found a hard candy recipe, if you go into the first page of this thread there is a link to Tincture Lollipop and that was in there somewhere. Now this recipe uses alcohol tincture, and corn syrup. I dont like corn syrup and I think that the glycerin is so sweet that I wont need as much sweet in it. but anyway here is a way to make hard candy and I am going to try something out in the near future and will share my variation.


    I had some high quality smoke that had no bag appeal (K-Train) there was no sugar leaves on those buds or barely but the actual buds are covered with tiny little trichs. I thought it would be great to use this pot for my tinctures. So what I have done here is I took 1 ounce of K-train, I grounded about half and the other half I simply used my hands and broke small pieces. I am not sure if it`s best to keep all air out of it as much as we can but I assume so, so when I poured the glycerine, I let it sit for a while and come back to it to fill the jar to the very top.

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    I found my old coffee grinder, hadnt use it in more than a year I scrapped this thc butter from the bottom... It was delicious!!
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    I am gonna buy more glycerine today (btw I use food grade vegetable glycerine) and will get another small jar going with the same quantities and same pot. So one jar will be going longer than the other hopefully but the demand is increasing... hard to gage how much I am going to need 2 months from now hehe.

    Happy Growing everyone :bigjoint:

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