Glycerin Tincture 101

I have 16 oz of Glycerin in a jar with about 1 oz of premium finely graded buds 1 oz almost premiums, 2.5 oz of finely graded inner stems from buds Ive thrown in a tupper wear container the past couple mths as I have been smoking and 7 grams of kief.

Sounds like I need to add more glycerin to the jar??????

I thought I needed to added more cannabis.

Its in a quart jar thats about 60-70% full.
 

Thanksfortheinfo

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Hey Sub, got some of this going, about 65 days into. Don't have hash bags yet but wondering if you have found a better way to strain the jars yet? Have a lot of shake and do not want to waste any more than I have to lol.


Got a gma that has had cancer (will not tell us her current status) and a few times out of the week cannot eat because of pain. Really hope this helps her as she is stuck in the "cannabis is bad because it is illegal federally" state. Know another cancer patient who is super friendly and has smoked most of her life who has heard about tinctures working, told her about it and she can't wait to try it. The 60 days seem like a long time at first but time seemed to fly by even when being without smoke for a few weeks


Saw the other thread about the purple tincture, I cannot wait to eventually try it with my GDP plants. Used the stuff from the link Sub provided (glycerin stuff)

Thanks again Sub
 
You can filter with a french press, brown unbleached coffee filters or cheesecloth :)

Seriously do not use the white coffee filters!
 

baaamalaaam

Well-Known Member
Great post sub!
Some people associated with MAMA's through OMMP turned me onto the glycerin tinctures, and it's the way to go for sure!
Very fast relief of back spasms for me!
 

LadyKimi

Well-Known Member
Excellent Post, we made butter last round and though it does help the taste is a bit much and I do not actually like being high! I can not wait to try this as soon as I harvest.... in about 3 months LoL

Kimi
 
This is an article out of treating yourself that i thought might be helpful. I know its not about tinctures ,but i thought it might be helpful.
THC Oil
Made Safely and Naturally
By Joe Pietri
Nearly 50 years ago I made THC hash oil in Nepal, that today some think is a new innovative technique. I used
Iso alcohol and ether, first cooking up hashish resin using kerosene stoves, outside in my yard, being careful not
to get the mix too hot, I used a thermometer to keep the temperature below what would destroy the THC, after
simmering I filtered the mix through nylon cloth, this liquid I let cool and then introduced ether to help the alcohol
evaporate, when I introduced the ether to the alcohol resin mix flames from Shiva were seen. I am so lucky
I did not blow myself up. Many did, oil labs went up in Kabul, and DD Sharma the owner of the Inn Eden on
Freak Street in Katmandu blew his privates off. The brotherhood reprocessed the oil made in Asia, with proper
laboratory filtering, they produced the wonderful honey oil we remember. The oil I made was black and amber
when you spread it on joint. The oil I made was very good. So to see the same methodology today being called
innovative is humorous. I used 10 kilos of hashish resin to make one kilo of hash oil, figuring it took 100 kilos
of cannabis to make 10 kilos of hashish resin, each kilo of oil represented 100 kilos of cannabis, one gram vials
of my oil equaled 100 grams of cannabis. Those vials last, as all you need was a pin to wipe a thin line across
your rolling paper before you rolled a joint.
Here is a simple method of making oil naturally at home safely, and as strong as you need it to be. I will explain
a simple technique where as you can have dosage control.
Today many are making oil, with cannabis material though it’s bulky and will never be as strong, or as good a
medicine as if you made it with resin hashish. Why?
Marketing fraud has retarded the methods needed to make quality medicine by attaching systems made obsolete
by the very method ie bags. The use of bags has killed the making of quality hashish by diluting the original formula.
It’s so bad that stoners and med patients go ugh, and rather smoke bud than poorly made hashish that
does not work, has no flavor, aroma, taste. This should be just opposite, the hash is a concentrated form of the
bud you make it from, with much stronger flavor, taste, aroma.
Simple test is to use Okief’s tumbler (Okief.com), smoked product should taste exactly the same as bud material
used, yet when you apply bag technique you lose flavor taste and aroma. Just like bags make crap hash, it
makes even worse oil and makes no sense. Just see the Oregon chewing gum hash we make here and then imagine
the oil we make from this. The method above is completely natural, must be refrigerated, and is only edible.
If I were to use whole buds, I would make tincture, using vegetable glycerine, with the option of making stronger
potion using resin.
First step is to extract resin glands from
cannabis material. I used the XTR 1000, but
you can use the Ice-cold kit and build your
own extraction device for a $100. (Icecold.org)
Using the XTR 1000 I processed 180 grams of
sugar trim and buds, Correct Ice method protocol
must be followed. From this I extracted
20 grams of pure trichomes.
After drying in my dehydrator and letting sit
overnight, I then crumble the resin, which I
then introduced to the 250ml of the finest
quality Canadian hemp oil, in this case I used
Manitoba Harvest Organic hemp oil, I used the
500ml bottle.
I have a cheap crockpot I bought at the VA for
$20, it has 3 settings high/low/warm, I set it on
warm, which is the lowest setting. I then introduce
oil and resin which dissolves into the
hemp oil after 1-2 hrs with occasional stirring,
when completely dissolved, I let mix cool
down, then I bottle it in 30ml or 120 ml eye
dropper bottles, this makes about 16 ozs. So
every 30 ml equals 11.25 grams of the original
cannabis per bottle, or 1.125 grams of extract.
This enables me to make controlled dosages at
strengths of varying degrees depending on the
amount of extract resin introduced into the
hemp oil. If I would have used 40grams of
extract using same quantity hemp oil it would
be double strength. Actually you get some
more because extract adds weight. But this
should give you a clear picture.
This is the finest and safest way to make edible
oil at home naturally using no solvents, just
water-ice-cannabis resin- hemp oil. Normally I
use straight bud for making my tinctures and
only make this resin hemp oil, as it is very
expensive to produce.
 

HAMandCHEEZ4life

Well-Known Member
sub...love this thread. tincture is the shit. i was just wondering if you ever used pure hash in a tincture? i heard this is the way to go. i have also heard of tincture curing cancer and shrinking tumors.
 

nl3004.kind

Active Member
sub...love this thread. tincture is the shit. i was just wondering if you ever used pure hash in a tincture? i heard this is the way to go. i have also heard of tincture curing cancer and shrinking tumors.
i've used both trim and hash, and it definitely kicks it up a notch... depending on what you are looking for in your meds it may really help... if you make bubble or iso hash, it is even better if you just add the trichomes directly to the glycerine without pressing/ heating ect... it will definitely cure what ails you... the method is the same, but i recommend that you grate or grind your hash instead of adding it in a ball or whatever... grating it will expose more of the hash to the glycerine (which is why the pure trichome method is superior... good luck!
 

mikejuwanna

Member
Hey guys!

I've been experimenting with tinctures and I'm curious about the potency and saturation! I've been reading all I can about the science behind tinctures and ingesting THC.

"At 31°C (87°F) the less volatile terpenoids start to evaporate, lending the air even more pungent odors.

At 39°C (102°F ) vir tually all of the terpenoids undergo evaporation fairly rapidly.

At 50°C (122°F) THC-Acid decarboxylates as the water molecule held in the carbonate form evaporates. This activates the THC.

At 66°C (150°F) Cannabidiol (CBD) melts and starts to evaporate.

At 185°C (365°F) Cannibinol (CBN) boils.

At 200°C (392°F) THC boils. Clear vapor from a vaporizer." -https://www.rollitup.org/harvesting-curing/76176-thc-breakdown-temp.html


After reading this article I realized that opening the jar at the end at 150f may be essential to decarboxylate your THC-A into usable THC and evaporate and release the water and co2 produced.
Is this true?

I have been experimenting with glycerin, but it's been hit or miss. Sometimes I would get an awesome buzz and laugh like I just ate a bunch of brownies. Other times I would get little more than a medicated feeling of warmth and soothing, even after tripling the dose.

So I have been scouring the internet for scientific resources on THC and glycerin. Reading 'The Art and Science of Cooking w/ Cannabis' has shown me that a lot of my hit/miss could be related to the conversion of THC-A into usable THC.

Now my final question to the experts would have to be related to having a tincture potent enough to administer drops. Either a few drops under my tongue or ingested (with tea perhaps) and get ripped with my girl. This is possible, but would this be best obtained with glycerin, alcohol, a combination of the two?

I am intrigued by glycerin because it is a sugar-alcohol that has little effect on one's body and is renowned for it's sublingual properties, but must I use alcohol tincture to get as high as butter?
 

PIP313

Member
"I've been experimenting with tinctures and I'm curious about the potency and saturation! I've been reading all I can about the science behind tinctures and ingesting THC.

"At 31°C (87°F) the less volatile terpenoids start to evaporate, lending the air even more pungent odors.

At 39°C (102°F ) vir tually all of the terpenoids undergo evaporation fairly rapidly.

At 50°C (122°F) THC-Acid decarboxylates as the water molecule held in the carbonate form evaporates. This activates the THC.

At 66°C (150°F) Cannabidiol (CBD) melts and starts to evaporate.

At 185°C (365°F) Cannibinol (CBN) boils.

At 200°C (392°F) THC boils. Clear vapor from a vaporizer."

I just want to correct the part about the water loss, there is no "water" in thc if there was it would be polar and dissolve in water, there is co2 hence thc CARBOXYLATE or thc ACID and loss of co2.
 

nl3004.kind

Active Member
an expensive candy thermometer would work if you really wanted to extract the thc the way you want to using these guidelines...
 

greenavenger

Active Member
Last step is to heat the open jars at 150 for like 10 minutes to evaporate any moisture I am still working on this last step.


yo subcool did you perfect the final step. im sorry im a bit confused when you to heat the open jars to evaporate any moisture. so you sayin after you strain it you heat to remove moisture? i dont understand what you mean by moisture as it is a liquid. are you talking about evaporating extra water off the final mix? if any of you guys know the answer an can save this man the time thatd b great

also ive read some recipes that heat the bud at 225 for 10 15 min. this is supposed to activate thc similair to smoking. you left this step out. i wander if that is why you say it doesnt get you high(besides the way your liver breaks it down
 

nl3004.kind

Active Member
green: if you heat the glycerine gently the thc will go into solution more fully in a shorter period of time (this step will also help convert the thca into thc *like baking it in an oven will* so you may omit this step if you wish...

the important parts are using foodsafe glycerine (labled usp sometimes), quality flowers or extracts like hash or trichomes, and straining it afterward or it will be gritty...

if you leave the glycerine mixture hot at the end it flows easier (like warmed maple syrup vs cold you know?

however if you strain it hot and put a lid on directly there could be micro-organism growth as well as the condensation will form on lids, and in addition to that if you put a lid on it while it is hot it will cool unevenly and you may have spoilage or unintended oxidation (which would lower the effectiveness as well as safety for your patients)...

also this is just my thinking on the matter, i am certainly not subcool, but not every method works the same way for each patient, which is why a variety of methods of medicating also are a good idea for the sophisticated modern hemp enthusiast... or otherwise: i'm just sayin...
 

greenavenger

Active Member
hey thanks alot nl3004 kind. yea i mixed it up the other day using veg glycerine thats safe for internal use with 2 oz of jack the ripper pure buds. mmmm. thanks alot for the safety pointers at the end. i was unaware of the cooling process at the end but what you say makes alot of sense. thanks again. and oh yea i made some bubble to for first time and came out great so i think i will have a variety of methods for medicating! peace, ga
 

TCurtiss

Well-Known Member
Buds need to be dried & I usually wait a week for curing then use it

Good luck it is great stuff

T
 
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