giving defoliation during flower a try

pk_boosted2

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Start a thread by going to "Marijuana plant problems", click on the "start new thread " button and post. It's much easier than 4ml/l sensi bloom A, 4ml/L sensi B, 2ml/L Big Bud, 2ml/L B-52, 2ml/L overdrive. 2ml/L bud candy, 2ml/L bud ignitor, 2ml/L piranha, 2ml/L tarantula, 2ml/l voodoo juice. Promise. What are you? 70?
I really dont understand why it matters where i ask a question. U obviously dont know the answer so i dont need a response. Im trying help someone out not start another fuckin argument for no reason. So if u dont have anything to contribute dont say anything its that simple.

And yeah ub i read the plant moisture stress article, but it doesnt really give any explanation of signs and symtpoms. Considering some def and nute burns all looks same without knowing more from this dude its hard figure out wtf is wrong w his plants.

As i know def usually start on the bottom while nutrient burn shows up on new growth. So if he was having issue w over fert then the tops would b burned but they arent eveythimg is perfectly healthy he says its only older lower growth showing the brown tips, edges and yellowing nothing in middle or top just starts on bottoms. So im confused which is why im lookin for a better answer maybe on here.
 

chuck estevez

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I really dont understand why it matters where i ask a question. U obviously dont know the answer so i dont need a response. Im trying help someone out not start another fuckin argument for no reason. So if u dont have anything to contribute dont say anything its that simple.

And yeah ub i read the plant moisture stress article, but it doesnt really give any explanation of signs and symtpoms. Considering some def and nute burns all looks same without knowing more from this dude its hard figure out wtf is wrong w his plants.

As i know def usually start on the bottom while nutrient burn shows up on new growth. So if he was having issue w over fert then the tops would b burned but they arent eveythimg is perfectly healthy he says its only older lower growth showing the brown tips, edges and yellowing nothing in middle or top just starts on bottoms. So im confused which is why im lookin for a better answer maybe on here.
a site you love so much

http://www.growweedeasy.com/marijuana-symptoms


PAY ATTENTION to the nutes they recommend to fix the problems,lmfao
 
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Uncle Ben

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And yeah ub i read the plant moisture stress article, but it doesnt really give any explanation of signs and symtpoms.
Sure it does, the first thing I did was give signs and symptoms.

Obviously you are incapable of processing information.

I am willing to figure out what happened to his plants. He needs to start a thread in Plant Problems and then summon me over to that thread.

You remind me of the idiots that voted in Obama and are rioting the streets of Ferguson and elsewhere, aiding and abetting a felon and his parents who failed to raise a child that respects others property and authority.
 

Sativied

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He said his run off ph is good and ppm are between 1000-1400 on some containers. If anyone familiar w H&G...

He said hes only feeding at half strength I think* thats why i told em to flush just to be sure.
So did he say that or do you think he said that, or do you think that's why you told him to flush :rolleyes: Sounds like something either you, or he, or both, made up.

1000-1400ppm, there's your problem right there, that's up to 2.0EC (use EC, or mentioned scale...) and sounds typical for one of your customers who think you can "feed" plants more to make them produce more, and is NOT half nutrient strenght, OBVIOUSLY.

The fact that you think 1000-1400ppm even can be from half recommended nutrient strength just shows how wrong they trained you :lol:

Another issue probably caused by you pushing bottles is that Calmag additive. H&G contains plenty of Ca and Mg. Adding calmag causes imbalance. I'm not sure what your latest standpoint on the value of NPK Ca Mg ratios is, but well, tell your customers to forget everything you ever told him and he may get on the right track again.
 

RM3

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If UR talking about me, at least have the balls to quote my post. As you know I just use the AN base, none of the other products, so there is no irony.
No' had nothing to do with you, the irony is a nute salesman that doesn't understand nutes or how to properly read a plants needs, trying to tell folks how to grow
 

pk_boosted2

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No the fuck it doesnt the symptoms this dude is having dont match up w anything on that post. Hes not over fertilizing, there arent heat issues or watering problems.

If anything its a deficiency because it only on lower branches if it wad over fe
So did he say that or do you think he said that, or do you think that's why you told him to flush :rolleyes: Sounds like something either you, or he, or both, made up.

1000-1400ppm, there's your problem right there, that's up to 2.0EC (use EC, or mentioned scale...) and sounds typical for one of your customers who think you can "feed" plants more to make them produce more, and is NOT half nutrient strenght, OBVIOUSLY.

The fact that you think 1000-1400ppm even can be from half recommended nutrient strength just shows how wrong they trained you :lol:

Another issue probably caused by you pushing bottles is that Calmag additive. H&G contains plenty of Ca and Mg. Adding calmag causes imbalance. I'm not sure what your latest standpoint on the value of NPK Ca Mg ratios is, but well, tell your customers to forget everything you ever told him and he may get on the right track again.

No dumb fuck ur wrong. I told him to flush because his run off was high i said its not anything crazy. I get run off over 1800 on my chem i never have issues.

2nd the chem i gave him h&g nor adv or canna has enough cal mag in their bases for that strain its a heavy feeder i go in at 1300-1500 ppm during peak blloom they love it, so hes not having an issue w over feeding. Period. Im very familiar w the pheno its mine.

3rd i high run off feeding at half strength makes sense esp if he isnt giving his containers enough water and getting run off its building up not indicative of how much hes feeding at all. He cud feed 200 ppm and get readings that high if he isnt watering enough til run off so ur point is useless as usual.
 

chuck estevez

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No the fuck it doesnt the symptoms this dude is having dont match up w anything on that post. Hes not over fertilizing, there arent heat issues or watering problems.

If anything its a deficiency because it only on lower branches if it wad over fe



No dumb fuck ur wrong. I told him to flush because his run off was high i said its not anything crazy. I get run off over 1800 on my chem i never have issues.

2nd the chem i gave him h&g nor adv or canna has enough cal mag in their bases for that strain its a heavy feeder i go in at 1300-1500 ppm during peak blloom they love it, so hes not having an issue w over feeding. Period. Im very familiar w the pheno its mine.

3rd i high run off feeding at half strength makes sense esp if he isnt giving his containers enough water and getting run off its building up not indicative of how much hes feeding at all. He cud feed 200 ppm and get readings that high if he isnt watering enough til run off so ur point is useless as usual.
aww, there it is
 

Sativied

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No dumb fuck ur wrong.
So.... gave up on your vs you're huh... :lol:

What you feed your plants is not relevant. If you were any good at your job you would immediately and automatically know that 1400 ppm and that cal mag is the problem. I use H&G at less than half the chart-level and don't use calmag...

h&g nor adv or canna has enough cal mag in their bases for that strain its a heavy feeder i
What does AN and Canna have to do with it....

H&G has plenty of Ca (11%) and is that is information from H&G I posted more than a few times because it's a common issue, people thinking they need to 'feed' calmag. Give them a call...

There's no such thing as a 'heavy feeder'. All cannabis plants fit within a range that is lower than you want it to be. As you made clear many pages ago, you belong in the newbie section, you don't know what a plant is and you certainly should NOT be giving any advice about nutrients, zero.

Scammer.

aww, there it is
He's really living up to that cartoon of the stubborn ass you posted.
 

pk_boosted2

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Not only does epsom treat minor mag and sulfur deficiencies, salts in general even common salts when used in combination with water bind and adhere to other salts in ur medium and i find that using small amount of epsom in flush really helps leach excess salts off of the roots. Many will agree some wont ur probably the "some" cuz u got ur own way of doing shit. We have opposite ways of getting to same point doesnt mean im right or ur wrong etc.. Theres many ways to do things
 

pk_boosted2

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So.... gave up on your vs you're huh... :lol:

What you feed your plants is not relevant. If you were any good at your job you would immediately and automatically know that 1400 ppm and that cal mag is the problem. I use H&G at less than half the chart-level and don't use calmag...

What does AN and Canna have to do with it....

H&G has plenty of Ca (11%) and is that is information from H&G I posted more than a few times because it's a common issue, people thinking they need to 'feed' calmag. Give them a call...

There's no such thing as a 'heavy feeder'. All cannabis plants fit within a range that is lower than you want it to be. As you made clear many pages ago, you belong in the newbie section, you don't know what a plant is and you certainly should NOT be giving any advice about nutrients, zero.

Scammer.

He's really living up to that cartoon of the stubborn ass you posted.
And u obviously dont have my chem cuts or u would know what im talking about. I have never found a base nutrient for this pheno that supplies enough cal or mag period. I supp addition 8-10 ml/gal or else they will become deficienct. And if u knew plants yes there are high feeding plants chem dog is one such plant. Very hard to over feed where others get burned at 800 ppm ive grown those too including widow strains and berry phenos like og blueberry hate high ppm ferts.

Anyways, like i said he told me he feeds at 1/2 strength h&g aquaflakes and substitutes 5 ml/gal additional cal mag i dont think he having an issue there. Its either a lock out or ph problem or what uncle ben said with moisture problem but from what is what im trying to figure out. He said that leaves are moist and wrinkled while browning at tips and edges then yellowing out completely, veins stems the whole leaf, with red petioles on most. Thats a nutrient issue that has signs of both deficiency and over nute which is whats weird!! Your answer is not correct. Ive already had him flush for a few waterings w cal-mag, then with epsom salts and hygrozyme to try and break down any excess fertilizers.

And who ever doesnt know what hygrozyme is wtf planet do u live on? Probably most common enzyme product for cannabis on the planet and is widely used by many many many growers extensively through veg and thru flowering and during flushing
 

chuck estevez

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Hey , went to the hydro store because I have a problem, hydro guy says it is a deficiency and I should Flush my medium?

EFFEN GENIUS, why do you own a store selling cannabis specific things when you have NO CLUE????????
 

pk_boosted2

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No ur just a moron who doesnt know anything about growing i dont know why ur even allowed to have an account on this site.

Besides hyping up uncle ben and promoting him u provide nothing intelligible to anything relating to marijuana cultivation. I dont think u grow anything, i dont think u know how to grow anything. I think ur a super troll and a loser who loves going online and typing shit and starting problems because u live a pathetic miserable existence, and need to take ur aggrevation out on anyone who will listen to ur bs.

I and others have asked u multiple times to go somewhere else bcuz u dont contribute a fuckin thing to this entire forum. All u do is post pictures and links to shit UB says bcuz u cant come up with anything yourself. And they dont say shit to u bcuz u would blow them if u got the opportunity too. U silly little fuck
 

chuck estevez

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Just as i thought, start out the paragraph, with, eeeyyaaawww eeeyyyaawww. Everyone keeps telling you what a jackass you are, no one told me anything except some clown trying to play himself off like some fucking guru in the weed world when he has no fucking clue and should go back to flipping burgers, clown
 
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