giving defoliation during flower a try

Gucc1M3ng

Well-Known Member
Just an experiment I guess. I did some reading on the subject and understand where both sides are coming from but I wanted to see for myself.if it works sweet if not I'll just know not to do that again.
You see I figure it this way; I'll try a bunch of different growing methods early on so I can perfect the style that best suits me. I'll update with some pics in a few days.

Till then happy growing!:weed:
 

Gucc1M3ng

Well-Known Member
(Experienced Growers Only) Controversial Defoliation Increases Marijuana Yields

by Keef Treez "The Defoliator"

Defoliation is an extreme marijuana growth technique. It's not to be done lightly.

In fact, the topic of defoliation is one of the most controversial subjects in the marijuana growing field. People on both sides defend their position vehemently.

I'm on the side that believe there is absolutely nothing stressful about defoliation or bending branches. Honestly, there is no way to achieve nearly a pound of buds from a 2-3 foot tall plant indoors, except using defoliation.

Opponents often have arguments like, "PLANTS NEED THOSE LEAVES! If they didn't, they wouldn't be there."

Or my all-time favorite, "I have a friend who used to grow, and he insists that will hurt the plant."

Yet the saddest part of all is how so few people are willing to look at the evidence.

In some ways, I almost would prefer the rest of the growing world keep up their ill-advised lollipopping, removing growing tips, and other low-yield techniques. The defoliation technique has been loudly condemned by "experienced" growers for decades. Nevertheless, I am determined to educate other growers about defoliating and let them see the results for themselves.

So let me start by giving you some picture proof that defoliation works (make sure you scroll down to see all of them!).

You see, I've been defoliating intensively for 30 years. I am now training plants to be 32" tall and 32" round and yielding 250-400 grams under 400 watt lamp.

Yes, that's right, he said 8-14 OUNCES of
buds of marijuana harvested off each short, easy-to-manage 32" tall plant, using
just a regular 400 watt HID grow light.


Here are two of my beauties (the one on the right needs a good plucking)





How-To Tutorial: The Controversial Technique of Defoliation
Despite all the evidence (I've posted hundreds of pictures and shown dozens of growers in person), there is still somehow so much skepticism about defoliation techniques. Growers, especially new growers, often just say variations of, "It's common sense, how could removing any part of the plant cause you to get higher yields?"

I recently attended an advanced seminar with a prominent fellow grower and got roundly booed when attempting to describe the defoliation technique, even with pictures showing dramatic benefits.

Unlike many other growers, I believe what's most important is studying how the plant actually grows, instead of assuming she grows how we think she should grow. Real experimentation and unbiased observers are the only way growers are going to learn how to get the best yields for the amount of time, money, and effort.

And it's true that some types of defoliation are brutal to the plants (such as when misguided growers removing all the leaves off extremely young marijuana plants), but other types of defoliation are actually hugely beneficial to increasing yields (I'll be showing you exactly what do do shortly).

And defoliation is beneficial for more than just marijuana, it also has been proven to increase yields for certain other types of crops. For example, it's well-known that cowpeas experience significant increases in yields when up to 50% of their leaves are defoliated during their flowering stage... (source)

This marijuana girl is 32" tall (the dimensions of this girl are 32"x32"x32" to be exact). She was intensely defoliated throughout her life.


And it's true that the real beauty of defoliation is difficult to translate in pictures and verbally.

But I will do my best to give you everything you need to start producing your own huge yields with marijuana defoliation.

But First, Let Me Show You About Increased Bud Production With Defoliation During the Flowering Stage

Before plucking





Immediately After Plucking





Just 4 days later, look at the incredible bud growth





Only 4 Days After That (after another defoliation session)



Are you beginning to see the power of defoliation?

 

CaretakerDad

Well-Known Member
(Experienced Growers Only) Controversial Defoliation Increases Marijuana Yields

by Keef Treez "The Defoliator"

Defoliation is an extreme marijuana growth technique. It's not to be done lightly.

In fact, the topic of defoliation is one of the most controversial subjects in the marijuana growing field. People on both sides defend their position vehemently.

I'm on the side that believe there is absolutely nothing stressful about defoliation or bending branches. Honestly, there is no way to achieve nearly a pound of buds from a 2-3 foot tall plant indoors, except using defoliation.

Opponents often have arguments like, "PLANTS NEED THOSE LEAVES! If they didn't, they wouldn't be there."

Or my all-time favorite, "I have a friend who used to grow, and he insists that will hurt the plant."

Yet the saddest part of all is how so few people are willing to look at the evidence.

In some ways, I almost would prefer the rest of the growing world keep up their ill-advised lollipopping, removing growing tips, and other low-yield techniques. The defoliation technique has been loudly condemned by "experienced" growers for decades. Nevertheless, I am determined to educate other growers about defoliating and let them see the results for themselves.

So let me start by giving you some picture proof that defoliation works (make sure you scroll down to see all of them!).

You see, I've been defoliating intensively for 30 years. I am now training plants to be 32" tall and 32" round and yielding 250-400 grams under 400 watt lamp.

Nebula Haze from GrowWeedEasy.com: Yes, that's right, he said 8-14 OUNCES of
buds of marijuana harvested off each short, easy-to-manage 32" tall plant, using
just a regular 400 watt HID grow light.


Here are two of my beauties (the one on the right needs a good plucking)





How-To Tutorial: The Controversial Technique of Defoliation
Despite all the evidence (I've posted hundreds of pictures and shown dozens of growers in person), there is still somehow so much skepticism about defoliation techniques. Growers, especially new growers, often just say variations of, "It's common sense, how could removing any part of the plant cause you to get higher yields?"

I recently attended an advanced seminar with a prominent fellow grower and got roundly booed when attempting to describe the defoliation technique, even with pictures showing dramatic benefits.

Unlike many other growers, I believe what's most important is studying how the plant actually grows, instead of assuming she grows how we think she should grow. Real experimentation and unbiased observers are the only way growers are going to learn how to get the best yields for the amount of time, money, and effort.

And it's true that some types of defoliation are brutal to the plants (such as when misguided growers removing all the leaves off extremely young marijuana plants), but other types of defoliation are actually hugely beneficial to increasing yields (I'll be showing you exactly what do do shortly).

And defoliation is beneficial for more than just marijuana, it also has been proven to increase yields for certain other types of crops. For example, it's well-known that cowpeas experience significant increases in yields when up to 50% of their leaves are defoliated during their flowering stage... (source)

This marijuana girl is 32" tall (the dimensions of this girl are 32"x32"x32" to be exact). She was intensely defoliated throughout her life.


And it's true that the real beauty of defoliation is difficult to translate in pictures and verbally.

But I will do my best to give you everything you need to start producing your own huge yields with marijuana defoliation.

But First, Let Me Show You About Increased Bud Production With Defoliation During the Flowering Stage

Before plucking





Immediately After Plucking





Just 4 days later, look at the incredible bud growth





Only 4 Days After That (after another defoliation session)



Are you beginning to see the power of defoliation?


What a shame you didn't leave your leaves on you might have had some decent plants, those look like shit.
 

budman111

Well-Known Member
I would try to get that plant healthy before any technique, look at the first photo of that ugly bud.
 

Gucc1M3ng

Well-Known Member
I would try to get that plant healthy before any technique, look at the first photo of that ugly bud.
The 'ugly' bud you are referring to stretched up and was touching my 250w HP's for a few hours about a week ago, that's why it's a little crispy
 

Silky Shagsalot

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i always do a lot of trimming through early flower. i use the saying, "if you can't tuck it, pluck it." i also don't do too much trimming at any one time. op, the plant you posted didn't really look to me like it needed trimming.
 

jacksthc

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Keef Treez "The Defoliator" can't Defoliation his plants and has not got a clue what his doing and too many growers follow his advice, for a start he's Defoliation a sativa dominant plant
bad move, the plant filled with small airy buds


Defoliation does work but my advice is not to try it, I have been on a lot of different sites showing Defoliation does work, that was a big mistake as I have not seen a single grower pull it off, all that happens is they mess it up just like you have and I am really sorry bout this

you plant is a short bushy plant with a few bud sites
the canopy is too thin and you removed too many fan leaves at the wrong time
looking at the plant I can't see the bud growing more than 50% more in size
 

Gucc1M3ng

Well-Known Member
Keef Treez "The Defoliator" can't Defoliation his plants and has not got a clue what his doing and too many growers follow his advice, for a start he's Defoliation a sativa dominant plant
bad move, the plant filled with small airy buds


Defoliation does work but my advice is not to try it, I have been on a lot of different sites showing Defoliation does work, that was a big mistake as I have not seen a single grower pull it off, all that happens is they mess it up just like you have and I am really sorry bout this

you plant is a short bushy plant with a few bud sites
the canopy is too thin and you removed too many fan leaves at the wrong time
looking at the plant I can't see the bud growing more than 50% more in size
50% more!? You promise? I was just hoping it got 10% bigger but 50!?! Thanks for giving me hope man. You da shit
 

jacksthc

Well-Known Member
defoliation works. period. If your growing indoors and not trimming back your plants. well, your doing it wrong.
your right but it has to be done right and newbie need to learn basic's before trying defoliation and even then they should try main-lining first.
topping, lST and defoliation thrown in together, as there a step by step guide even uncle ben should be able to follow lol
 
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