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BionicΩChronic

BionicΩChronic

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justugh said:
yah u do

what do u call putting it in a pot and letting the roots grow in so they can intake food (even with hyrdo u have to have time to grow a large root mass )

u can not take a clone and just plant it in the dirt and except it to make u a qp or a hp per plant in 8 weeks......u need the time for the roots to grow into the pot



76 days from seed to smokable including dry time for a qp to hp of some dense frosty shit .......seed to smoke 7 day drying time
some of the larger strains are 90 days or 110 days

and u still can not beat the light timing .........i do not need a 12/12 to flower so natural light this time of years works i can harvest more then photos of different strains in the same place in one grow season
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KILLIN IT :D:clap:
Autos are the shit keep it up u are making some very valid points!
Buyers like variety over bulk buys!
Yeah u can have extra mothers but after 10 shit gets hecktic i imagine
 
mr sunshine

mr sunshine

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justugh said:
yah u do

what do u call putting it in a pot and letting the roots grow in so they can intake food (even with hyrdo u have to have time to grow a large root mass )

u can not take a clone and just plant it in the dirt and except it to make u a qp or a hp per plant in 8 weeks......u need the time for the roots to grow into the pot



76 days from seed to smokable including dry time for a qp to hp of some dense frosty shit .......seed to smoke 7 day drying time
some of the larger strains are 90 days or 110 days

and u still can not beat the light timing .........i do not need a 12/12 to flower so natural light this time of years works i can harvest more then photos of different strains in the same place in one grow season
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That's called cloning... do you even sog bro? Why would anyone want a half p per plant? I'm not growing outside that's not necessary. Autos aren't faster... take clones a month before you need then and your roots will be fat.. I harvest the glue in 63 days that's faster then 70... When I grow bigger plants that do need to be vegged, I veg them outside, just hang a little 25 watt light on a timer.. works well..
 
BionicΩChronic

BionicΩChronic

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mr sunshine said:
That's called cloning... do you even sog bro? Why would anyone want a half p per plant? I'm not growing outside that's not necessary. Autos aren't faster... take clones a month before you need then and your roots will be fat.. I harvest the glue in 63 days that's faster then 70... When I grow bigger plants that do need to be vegged, I veg them outside, just hang a little 25 watt light on a timer.. works well..
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Lol u dont even need a timer for veg... U can do 24/0
 
justugh

justugh

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mr sunshine said:
That's called cloning... do you even sog bro? Why would anyone want a half p per plant? I'm not growing outside that's not necessary. Autos aren't faster... take clones a month before you need then and your roots will be fat.. I harvest the glue in 63 days that's faster then 70... When I grow bigger plants that do need to be vegged, I veg them outside, just hang a little 25 watt light on a timer.. works well..
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the cost of a plant being 90 bucks soil seed feed power ............with a return of 300 per oz black market ....on legal market looking at 500 to 600 if good THC and a unseen strain (selling in smaller batches with higher quality smoke is a marketing tactic)

now running them outside .......accounting the augments for the soil and the cost of the seed i am looking about 35 buck per plant overhead with a return possible of 500 to 600 .......hell if i get 300 bucks a QP that is still 760% return on the investment 1 plant

your plants look nice
but from a biz stand point your model does not work as ppl will tire of it in a period of time ........u need to keep them coming back since the store choice are many in a small area (medical is not a biz model that will hold unless u supply more then 50 strains always having a strain targeted for aliment .....they gone rec sales almost all of that have not gone under)

if u want to keep your strain make a seed out of it if it is all possible ......do a little breeding and get 3000 seeds
 
mr sunshine

mr sunshine

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justugh said:
the cost of a plant being 90 bucks soil seed feed power ............with a return of 300 per oz black market ....on legal market looking at 500 to 600 if good THC and a unseen strain (selling in smaller batches with higher quality smoke is a marketing tactic)

now running them outside .......accounting the augments for the soil and the cost of the seed i am looking about 35 buck per plant overhead with a return possible of 500 to 600 .......hell if i get 300 bucks a QP that is still 760% return on the investment 1 plant

your plants look nice
but from a biz stand point your model does not work as ppl will tire of it in a period of time ........u need to keep them coming back since the store choice are many in a small area (medical is not a biz model that will hold unless u supply more then 50 strains always having a strain targeted for aliment .....they gone rec sales almost all of that have not gone under)

if u want to keep your strain make a seed out of it if it is all possible ......do a little breeding and get 3000 seeds
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I just grow with 1 1000 watt I'm just a home grower
 
justugh

justugh

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mr sunshine said:
I just grow with 1 1000 watt I'm just a home grower
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i was too.....i started with cfls then t5s then HIDs and then LEDs

Hids are good bulbs .......i hope u got a double end set up u will like them better for the engery use and how well they last (less lumen drop and freq change near end of life)

but 1000w is great for a 5x5 foot print good for a 6x6
i used one for a while i can only do 4 10 oz plants in there at a time
 
mr sunshine

mr sunshine

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BionicΩChronic said:
And that is what the argument of this thread is about.
Business...
Nice frost on that plant tho. What strain?
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This thread's not about business its about genetics.gg4... and blue cookies. Those are mine,I own them. If you'd lived by me id give you one and they would be yours too. Because you can keep those muthafuckers. Its crazy... You just cut it and it makes another one.
 
justugh

justugh

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i spent the last 4 years learning everything i could on growing weed

i went to the cup just to see the expo the getting high with others was a bouns and curse .........auto plants are better by the numbers and they allow for a faster learning cuvre with the shorten life span

if the plant gets sick u have to fix it and see the effect of your treatment with in 3 days of doing it ..........it also makes u need to learn and understand feeding a increased rate this is slighlty costly but in the end u reduce the cost on feed and soil augments do to the understanding u gained .........the kicker is with in 3 grows of any strain u can master it and push to the breeders lvls in yeilds or surpass them

the skills i know carry over to photos just as well or better since reading the plant is a must to have any skills with auto plants
 
mr sunshine

mr sunshine

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justugh said:
i was too.....i started with cfls then t5s then HIDs and then LEDs

Hids are good bulbs .......i hope u got a double end set up u will like them better for the engery use and how well they last (less lumen drop and freq change near end of life)

but 1000w is great for a 5x5 foot print good for a 6x6
i used one for a while i can only do 4 10 oz plants in there at a time
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Don't take my shit the wrong way you get down.. I know you've pushed those autos far.. You do good shit I just can't get over the fact that you can't keep them around. Its a real deal breaker for me.
 
justugh

justugh

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mr sunshine said:
Don't take my shit the wrong way you get down.. I know you've pushed those autos far.. You do good shit I just can't get over the fact that you can't keep them around. Its a real deal breaker for me.
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no i started this

this tread is just about that biz and supporting them in growing letting them know that what some ppl say is 100% crap

autos will sell in shops u just have to have a good product so their work is not for nothing

i am trying to help ppl understand this method and idea of growing is a gap filler in the market .........thanks to ppl getting tired of strains ( the cost of seeds and the cost of clones are about the same )
 
justugh

justugh

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mr sunshine said:
Don't take my shit the wrong way you get down.. I know you've pushed those autos far.. You do good shit I just can't get over the fact that you can't keep them around. Its a real deal breaker for me.
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your 100% right for medical clones are the 100% the way to go ............u know it works and u the effect

but rec auto flowers are the new gold mine ........they only want THC lvls and taste
 
Big smo

Big smo

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My first run ever and it was autos. 70 day strains, 40 day turn around. People loved it and are begging for more. Honestly can't keep up. Have 12 more 1/2 way done and 12 seedlings going. There is plenty of profit and the indoor scene with good genetics and right strains u can easily do 10 harvests a year.

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Big smo

Big smo

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It's also a great idea if you live in a state that only allows small amounts in hand. Some states allow only 2-5 oz useable. Imagine the police walking in to 12 2lb plants.

Then the risk of a long ass veg and flower. Say something catastrophic happens. Mold, mites, loss of power. With autos you'll be right back into it. Photos your back 4 months. Anyone that's not willing to learn or try new shit isn't worth the time trying to convince. Autos are here to stay and over time they will get better and better.
 
K

ky man

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justugh said:
auto flowering genetics is something i am dying to get into ......but with current op i can not with out chancing seeds in my sellable stock (one of my major selling points is no seeds and tight stem clip so u are getting mostly flower in jars)

i am pointing out that a guy did your thinking and moved to selling the clones .............clones are a chance and if to stuborn to kill them it can wreck everything u are building
(even with clones u need to have seeds to safe gaurd your plants)



where have u been
autos seed flower and dry to sellable before u plants are cut
.....even with clones shorting the growth u are looking 12 weeks to cut ..........the longest auto i have done was 110days and that was i cut off the top and mid lvl and gave lower one direct light (a auto flower hydro 23 oz of good sellable smoke 3 oz 20 grams of fluffy stuff for canna butter)

i am looking at 2 acres of space to grow outdoor with a indoor/greenhouse more then big enough for a 60 plant cycle (30 and 30)
the outdoor is on a moutain so it is perfect for a terrace system for growing .......break it down into beds and grow rows with plantnigs in 2 week cycles after the first 10 weeks harvest and get one more season in the outdoor for about half the total feild

yah i am good
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Where can I buy Auto seeds at in the states that take dept cards?Or a person that I can buy from direct with cash witch I would like the best any way to get a better buy.I need some seed now to grow plant out doors in ky.thank you for any help you can give me..pm me please..........ky
 
Diskokobaja

Diskokobaja

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mr sunshine said:
No one said shops dont buy good weed, some people, many people that do this for a living would argue that growing seeds is always a risk whether it's photo or auto... Its better to keep genetics alive. And you cant do that with auto's. They're pretty much one time use plant's.it's just inefficient, it's cool for a home grower with a small operation but not a professional. .
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That the fun,allways buying and planting different plants and strains..
 
Indefinately

Indefinately

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Interesting read,

Might order my self some autos and give it a crack.

So......... I've never read much about autos at all.
But by reading this thread I understand you obviously can't clone them and have to start from seed all the time.

Why is that?

Can you get the plant to make seed with colloidal silver so you can have seed stock of the particular auto you want to keep growing?

Any autos you recommend justugh?
I'm keen to try one after reading your thread?

Indefinately
" Let there be Green in 2016 "
 
Big smo

Big smo

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Indefinately said:
Interesting read,

Might order my self some autos and give it a crack.

So......... I've never read much about autos at all.
But by reading this thread I understand you obviously can't clone them and have to start from seed all the time.

Why is that?

Can you get the plant to make seed with colloidal silver so you can have seed stock of the particular auto you want to keep growing?

Any autos you recommend justugh?
I'm keen to try one after reading your thread?

Indefinately
" Let there be Green in 2016 "
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