Foilar Feeding Myth!!!!

bird mcbride

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Foilar Feeding Myth!!!!
I "think" this must be one of those all natural hippie threads gone wild.
Yes, I can somewhat agree. All natural weed can compare to weed we grow, if it's grown in its natural habitat.
Hydro was nothing but a dream in the 1970's but by the end of the 70's we were making DWC jokes and for 40-50 bucks we could buy a bag of good imported (outdoor) weed. That ended in the 80's with the war on drugs and suddenly we had to grow our own. Thank "god" for that bag of seeds.
Anyway, I give my plant(s) a good spraying every 4-7 days. First with res water then with clean water. I have never had PM or any kinda rot in my grow.
 
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Dr. Who

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I know people in Cali and stayed a couple weeks and that's not true...it's all about theat dense, stanky, sticky, dank....most bud grown indoors is light, airy, and mild....good weed with high thc levels are grown inside..just because u can mimick light, wind, and water some plants...u think u god??? More like a mother o father...
Cranial Rectal Inversion!
Last year an indoor, organic grown, original Chem Dog of mine tested out at over 27% by Iron labs in Mich. I can Guar - un - fuckin - tee it was NOT in the least bit "airy". I got 4.5 zip average from 4 1/2 to 5' plants in my own supersoil style grow. I use straight water and basic AACT teas, with a little added P&K in the form of Guano's starting at 4 weeks into flower in 3 gallon Plant Warrior pots.
I never pH the solution/water and never worry about molds or CROOKS in the night. I have not had a "bug" infestation in over 2 years (yes they do pop up from time to time, but controlling them is FAR easier then outdoors). Here in Mich. we have a limited time for flower and I have almost never seen an outdoor plant reach TRUE maturity (unless costly/time consuming measures are used to "control" the lighting times or Autoflower strains were used)!
 

hyroot

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out door is cheaper. Beacuse back in 1999 when the b.c. ring went down caused by a car accident in costa mesa socal. When a drunk driver crashes into a dude carrying $42,000 cash and 2 pounds. He was arrested then 10 more people were arrested and 7 safes and another 100 pounds and $350,000 were some siezed. Then another 50 people in Canada were arrested. The b.c. Ring was done. No more quality buds came down from Canada after that. So the next generation of kids who knew nothing about growing took over. Prior to that the older cats supplied most of the U.S. Anyway the youngins grew 1000's of plants. Harvested early. And never trimmed and shipped them wet. Instantly the price dropped $1000 a pound sending down chem death wet leafy weed.

imo outdoor is far better than most indoor. Because sun is the best light of all. Hps doesn't come anywhere near the suns spectrum. In fact hps was designed as a street light and hasn't been improved on in 40 years. led and induction and CMH can come close to the sun, almost matching the spectrum, umole/s and cri of the sun. High grade outdoor price has increased dramatically over the last year. Being barely less per pound. Quality oudoor is roughly $2500-$2800 a pound. Indoor is $3000-$3400 a pound in SoCal and in norcal its roughly $400 more per pound. 5 years ago norcal weed was far cheaper than socal. You can thank the dispensaries for that change..(sarcasm).
Back in 1999. Outdoor and indoor were both $4400 -$4800 a pound. Before the cheapy b.c.sters came down.

to the original question. Foliar feeding is very beneficial. I foliar feed til the last week of flower with kelp meal / aloe Vera, botanical teas and botanical ipm's. (integrated pest management)
 
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Commander Strax

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Get out your feelings...and in Cali no...for a fact NO! Not everyone lives where it's soooo fucking hot and rainy....I know muthafuckas who grow weed in the summer in Wisconsin and in Michigan... U probably couldn't even handle the smoke we choke on... Try some of this Girl Scout....f1 crossed with og crossed with cherry pie something u know nothing about....or this shurbert wats about to hit the weed in couple week...don't say I didn't tell u first

 

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
Outdoor- Quantity
Indoor - Dank
Like anything in this world there will always be exceptions to every rule. If the above isn't true in general, then I'm not comprehending what I've spent the last couple of years trying to study and learn.
yeah, i'm sure there are places in the world cob, where the weather is perfectly suited for growing cannabis, maybe around the equator for instance.. but how many of us live any where even remotely near that part of the world? slim to none would be my guess..
indoor is simply much more controllable.. like i tried saying earlier, the grower pretty much plays god in their grow room.. keeping the temps where the plants like them, rh, etc, etc.. no one can ever get that sort of control from an outdoor grow.
also, most of today's strains have been breed to be grown iindoors, and it has slowly adapted to it's indoor environments, artificial lighting, chem nutes, hydro, so on and so on..
 

hyroot

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yeah, i'm sure there are places in the world cob, where the weather is perfectly suited for growing cannabis, maybe around the equator for instance.. but how many of us live any where even remotely near that part of the world? slim to none would be my guess..
indoor is simply much more controllable.. like i tried saying earlier, the grower pretty much plays god in their grow room.. keeping the temps where the plants like them, rh, etc, etc.. no one can ever get that sort of control from an outdoor grow.
also, most of today's strains have been breed to be grown iindoors, and it has slowly adapted to it's indoor environments, artificial lighting, chem nutes, hydro, so on and so on..

I'd rather have the plant / genetics and nature in control. Best results come from mimicking nature. All plants and trees have adapted and grown for quite a long time perfectly fine before we came along. Mj is one of the most easily adaptable plants.

near the equator is more hot and plants flower year round due to the amount of infrared light year round. That's more suitable for pure indicas. Hybrids do much better further north. Everything is a hybrid now a days. Its damn near impossible to get an ibl pure indica unless you have seeds or mothers older than 10 years.
 

bird mcbride

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Foilar Feeding Myth!!!!
I mix my res at 1/6 as what is recommended for soil(outdoor).
I'm sure that even with poor genetics 15-20 minutes a week of foilar feeding and fresh water will only help.
My first pump sprayer was an old fire extiguisher that I rigged a lawn spray nozzle onto. I used it until the pump shaft and everything about it was worn completely out:)
The plant did in fact have to be geneticaly altered by breeding/cross-breeding in a northerly climate so the yield time would make the entire thing feasible. At the beginning with import seeds it took the males three to four months just to show sex and the females were not even showing preflower. It would've been impractical to wait a year for a crop,
The first step in the correct direction was figuring the lighting and shedule to get the desired results whether it be inside or out.
 

Yodaweed

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I would disagree with hyroot with outdoor being better, it is totally dependent on where you live, just imagine the outdoor buds you could grow in florida or hawiaii , then think how crappy the outdoor here in Colorado is because outside here is so harsh. Very dusty all the time here, very dry all the time, cold as shit at night and hot during the day(we're a high lands desert). Indoor here is much much more dank, we basically don't even bother with outdoor besides to make hash and stuff like that because it is so harsh and bad here I have personally tried several outdoor grows and they never had a good taste or smoke from Colorado, now I am from NJ and the outdoor there is freaking dank as shit. Totally dependent on environment but outdoor can be really good or really bad.
 

goodgreen

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http://www.theweedblog.com/prices-for-outdoor-marijuana-are-plummeting/

First, per-gram prices at MMJ dispensaries have not changed much, with most outlets still asking (and receiving) $50 or more for an eighth and $300 for an ounce on indoor strains, and roughly half that for outdoor (depending on where you shop). At $300 per ounce, those sellers are bringing in $4800 per pound -- almost a 100% markup. The same is true on the street, where the cost of an eighth of weed is still about $50 pretty much everywhere you go.
link.. http://news.humcounty.com/
Lol....I know people in northern states getting pounds for $2300 so stop it and its grade A....I can call up a eight for $35
 

goodgreen

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Foilar Feeding Myth!!!!
I mix my res at 1/6 as what is recommended for soil(outdoor).
I'm sure that even with poor genetics 15-20 minutes a week of foilar feeding and fresh water will only help.
My first pump sprayer was an old fire extiguisher that I rigged a lawn spray nozzle onto. I used it until the pump shaft and everything about it was worn completely out:)
The plant did in fact have to be geneticaly altered by breeding/cross-breeding in a northerly climate so the yield time would make the entire thing feasible. At the beginning with import seeds it took the males three to four months just to show sex and the females were not even showing preflower. It would've been impractical to wait a year for a crop,
The first step in the correct direction was figuring the lighting and shedule to get the desired results whether it be inside or out.
Nice!
 

goodgreen

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I would disagree with hyroot with outdoor being better, it is totally dependent on where you live, just imagine the outdoor buds you could grow in florida or hawiaii , then think how crappy the outdoor here in Colorado is because outside here is so harsh. Very dusty all the time here, very dry all the time, cold as shit at night and hot during the day(we're a high lands desert). Indoor here is much much more dank, we basically don't even bother with outdoor besides to make hash and stuff like that because it is so harsh and bad here I have personally tried several outdoor grows and they never had a good taste or smoke from Colorado, now I am from NJ and the outdoor there is freaking dank as shit. Totally dependent on environment but outdoor can be really good or really bad.
Makes since
 
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