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Finshaggy
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Nice. Even if it is not the specifically right species, it is probably a close relative like the Peruvian Torch, which can be used for Religious Purposes also.i think iv got one
i got it two years ago it was 2" tall and its know going on 1' ½ tall
its a star shape if cut sideways .
Finshaggy
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I am not going to Mexico any time soon. I am growing a new strain of Marijuana right now. I have some Ghost Train Haze #1 growing and Malawi Gold seeds coming in the mail, so I am making a THCv strain. And I am finishing up my book to help people start Temples and stuff. But once all that is done, I will start planning on going to Mexico to get new Sativa Genetics to get in the mix and I might look for Silver while I am there. Eventually I am going to get Silver Grain and Molds and start making my own brand of Silver bullion. I was going to do this before, but the Devcoin people got mad at me for writing so much and decided that I shouldn't get Devcoins just for writing, lol.
abe supercro
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interesting dev coin development. you blogged em batshit!
hell yeah mexico. I can see a strain hunter (type) episode featuring finshaggy-explorations seeking old world mexican sativa genetics!
If this economy ever gets rollin again, silver will drop near 10$/oz. it's only hovered around 15 recently. a silver mine hook-up would be nice; i'd have the bambinos digging for it even before they learn to walk.
hell yeah mexico. I can see a strain hunter (type) episode featuring finshaggy-explorations seeking old world mexican sativa genetics!
If this economy ever gets rollin again, silver will drop near 10$/oz. it's only hovered around 15 recently. a silver mine hook-up would be nice; i'd have the bambinos digging for it even before they learn to walk.
Finshaggy
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Lol. I wouldn't make people mine. If I ever do get to the point where I am going through enough silver to be able to mine it, I would found a town and give people good jobs doing it, and start a Temple there then make sure they get the profits filtered back into their community and not just all of it going to Americans who resell it across the border.
Finshaggy
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Lol. I got trolled on a Marijuana forum, I don't see how that ever would have effected my real life.
KLITE
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Finshaggy
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Temples are places where everything should be produced for all aspects of Religious Practice. An example of this would be a Rock Tumbler. If you live in a place where there are a lot of different kinds of weird rocks around all the time (Colorado, California, Utah, etc) you can get a Rock Tumbler and Polish those rocks into something that someone can use for rituals. Most of the Chakra stones and things like that can just be found if you know where to look. For example, if you find Red Soil you can assume there is Iron present, then if you find an Iron deposit you can also start looking for Hematite. And I am pretty sure different kinds of Quartz are found near Gold, so if you find Quartz you might find Gold, etc.
A Kiln is where Clay is fired, when you make something out of clay, first you mold it, then you fire it to make it more like glass where it breaks when you drop it, and once it is hard like that you can paint it and glaze it and put it back in the kiln to make it smooth instead of being like hard clay when you touch it. This can be used to make Ceremonial Chillums.
These are Diamond Tipped bits that go on a Rotary tool (like a Drill), they are used to etch in to stone or wood or pretty much anything, since they are diamond tipped. They are not expensive, and could be used in a Temple to create all kinds of things.
A Kiln is where Clay is fired, when you make something out of clay, first you mold it, then you fire it to make it more like glass where it breaks when you drop it, and once it is hard like that you can paint it and glaze it and put it back in the kiln to make it smooth instead of being like hard clay when you touch it. This can be used to make Ceremonial Chillums.
These are Diamond Tipped bits that go on a Rotary tool (like a Drill), they are used to etch in to stone or wood or pretty much anything, since they are diamond tipped. They are not expensive, and could be used in a Temple to create all kinds of things.
Finshaggy
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Plants considered Sacred to Shiva:
Marijuana, Golden Apples (Bael fruit), Ashoka Trees, Peepal Trees, Banyan Trees, Coconut Trees, Red Sandalwood Trees, Kesara Trees & Champaka Trees.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudras
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panchaloha
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shilpa_Shastras
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vajra
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaksha
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loka
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yidam
Rudraksha beads are considered sacred to Shiva.
Mercury (Parad) is considered sacred to Shiva.
Saturn = Saturday = Lead =
Sun = Sunday = Gold =
Moon = Monday = Silver =
Mars = Tuesday = Iron =
Mercury = Wednesday = Mercury =
Jupiter = Thursday = Tin =
Venus = Friday = Copper =
In India (once statue making spread to India from the west) they started using sacred Metal mixtures (Alloys) to make statues that would change color, etc. The secrets of how to make these Alloys was kept for a long time, but now they are more commonly known and the statue of Liberty was probably made to change colors, because I find it hard to believe that ancient people knew that happened to statues but an almost modern statue maker in France was unaware.
Ashtadhatu is a mixture of all metals.
Crown = Violet = Clear Quartz
Third Eye = Indigo = Amethyst
Throat = Blue = Sodalite
Heart = Green = Rose Quartz
Solar Plexus = Yellow = Citrine
Sacral = Orange = Carnelian
Root = Red = Hematite
Shiva/Rudra = Marijuana/Rudraksha = Shiva Lingum
Kali = Datura = Crematorium
This is the Shiva Lingam. It is a sacred symbol that represents the male and female aspects of nature coming together.
Finshaggy
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Rudra is one of Shiva's main incarnations. The word "Shiva" literally means "Kind", and Shiva only exists when Rudra is in the act of being Shiva.
This may seem confusing, but Rudra himself is associated with the Rudraksha Mala which will help explain this. You have probably seen a necklace that looks like this.
These Orange beads are actually seeds from a plant. They are considered important because if you can hold a necklace made of these and consider it more important than a necklace made of Gold, you have opened up doors to the world you otherwise would not have. India is where the art of carving Diamonds was perfected, and these beads are a good representation of a main idea in Hinduism. These beads/seeds have many "faces" just like a diamond and just like the Gods.
Hinduism has many Gods that are one God, this is how when you say "Shiva the Destroyer" you can be talking about a good guy, because Creation and Destruction are the same God. You can not create a necklace without destroying some seeds, you can not unlock a diamond without taking tools to it, and you can not have humanity without changing the old in to something new.
Finshaggy
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Art in Ancient India was seen as spiritual and there was no division of class, anyone could be an artisan and it worked much like a Mystery school. They formed guilds and taught spiritual esoteric wisdom along with building techniques and other arts and crafts.
An examples of what is in the Shilpa Shastras is the Holy Alloys known as Panchaloha, which are mixtures of metal that have special properties such as color changing, and they were used for statue making.
Ashtadhatu is a mixture of all metals.
Here is an English translation of the Shilpa Shastras
https://jambudveep.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/principles-of-silpashastra.pdf
Finshaggy
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If you don't live near Mountains or the Ocean you might not think a lot about which way is North, South, East or West. But there is actually a Giant Flaming ball in the sky that goes up in the East and Down in the West. In India they light a fire before the Sun comes up every morning, because Fire (Agni) is considered to be an Immortal being who has come to live with Humans.
Surya and Savitri are two names by which the Sun is commonly addressed in the Vedic hymns. Sometimes one name is used exclusively, sometimes they are used interchangeably, and sometimes they are used as though they represented quite distinct objects. It is supposed that Savitri refers to the sun when invisible; whilst Surya refers to him when he is visible to the worshippers. This at any rate gives some reason for the two names being employed, though it may not explain the case satisfactorily in every instance.
Although the hymns in which Surya is addressed are not very numerous, his worship was most common in the olden time, and has continued to the present hour. It is to him that the Gayatri, the most sacred text of the Vedas, is addressed at his rising by every devout Brāhman. Simple in its phraseology, this short verse is supposed to exert magical powers. It is as follows:—
"Let us meditate on that excellent glory of the divine Vivifier;
May he enlighten (or stimulate) our understandings." *
As a specimen of the language employed in some of the later writings in reference to this verse, read the following few lines from the Skanda Purāna":—"Nothing in the Vedas is superior to the Gayatri. No invocation is equal to the Gayatri, as no city is equal to Kasi (Benares). The Gayatri is the mother of the Vedas, and of Brāhmans. By repeating it a man is saved. By the power of the Gayatri the Kshetriya (Warrior caste) Vishvamitra became a Brāhmarsi (Brāhman saint), and even obtained such power as to be able to create a new world. What is there indeed that cannot be effected by the Gayatri? For the Gayatri is Vishnu, Brahmā, and Siva, and the three Vedas."
With promise of such blessings, it is not to be wondered at that the worship of Surya should continue.
The following translation * of hymns from the Rig-Veda gives a fair specimen of the language used in addresses to Surya
"Behold the rays of Dawn, like heralds, lead on high
The Sun, that men may see the great all-knowing god.
The stars slink off like thieves, in company with Night,
Before the all-seeing eye, whose beams reveal his presence,
Gleaming like brilliant flames, to nation after nation.
With speed, beyond the ken of mortals, thou, O Sun!
Dost ever travel on, conspicuous to all.
Thou dost create the light, and with it dost illume
The universe entire; thou risest in the sight
Of all the race of men, and all the host of heaven.
Light-giving Varuna! thy piercing glance dost scan,
In quick succession, all this stirring, active world,
And penetrateth too the broad ethereal space,
Measuring our days and nights, and spying out all creatures.
Surya with flaming locks, clear-sighted god of day,
Thy seven ruddy mares bear on thy rushing car.
With these, thy self-yoked steeds, seven daughters of thy chariot
Onward thou dost advance. To thy refulgent orb
Beyond this lower gloom, and upward to the light
Would we ascend, O Sun! thou god among the gods."
Surya, as we have already noticed, is regarded as a son of Aditi; at other times he is said to be a son of Dyaus. Ushas (the Dawn) is called his wife, though in another passage he is said to be produced by the Dawn. Some texts state that he is the Vivifier of all things; whilst others state that he was formed and made to shine by Indra, Soma, Agni, and others.
From the character ascribed to Savitri in some hymns, it seems more natural to regard him as the sun shining in his strength, and Surya as the sun when rising and setting. Savitri is golden-eyed, * golden-handed, golden- tongued. He rides in a chariot drawn by radiant, white-footed steeds. He illuminates the earth; his golden arms stretched out to bless, infusing energy into all creatures, reach to the utmost ends of heaven. He is leader and king in heaven; the other gods follow him, and he it is who gives them immortality. He is prayed to for deliverance from sin, and to conduct the souls of the departed to the abode of the righteous.
In the Purānic Age, Surya sustains quite a different character. He is there called the son of Kasyapa and Aditi. He is described as a dark-red man, with three eyes and four arms: in two hands are water-lilies; with one he is bestowing a blessing, with the other he is encouraging his worshippers. He sits upon a red lotus, and rays of glory issue from his body. In addition to the daily worship that is offered him by Brāhmans in the repetition of the Gayatri, he is worshipped once a year by the Hindus of all castes, generally on the first Sunday in the month of Māgh; and in seasons of sickness it is no uncommon thing for the low-caste Hindus to employ a Brāhman to repeat verses in his honour, in the hope that thus propitiated he will effect their recovery.
In the "Vishnu Purāna" † we find the following account of Surya. He married Sangnā, the daughter of Visvakarma; who, after bearing him three children, was so oppressed with his brightness and glory that she was compelled to leave him. Before her departure, she arranged with Chhāya (Shadow) to take her place. For years Surya did not notice the change of wife. But one day, in a fit of anger, Chhāya pronounced a curse upon Yama (Death), a child of Sangnā's, which immediately took effect. As Surya knew that no mother's curse could destroy her offspring, he looked into the matter and discovered that his wife had forsaken him, leaving this other woman in her place. Through the power of meditation, Surya found Sangnā in a forest in the form of a mare; and, in order that he might again enjoy her society, he changed himself into a horse. After a few years, growing tired of this arrangement, they returned in proper form to their own dwelling. But in order that his presence might be bearable to his wife, his father-in-law Visvakarma, who was the architect of the gods, ground the Sun upon a stone, and by this means reduced his brightness by one-eighth. The part thus ground from Surya was not wasted. From it were produced the wonder-working discus of Vishnu, the trident of Siva, the lance of Kartikeya (the god of war), and the weapons of Kuvera (the god of riches).
The "Bhavishya Purāna" says, "Because there is none greater than he (i.e. Surya), nor has been, nor will be, therefore he is celebrated as the supreme soul in all the Vedas." Again, "That which is the sun, and thus called light or effulgent power, is adorable, and must be worshipped by those who dread successive births and deaths, and who eagerly desire beatitude." In the "Brahmā Purāna" * is a passage in which the sun is alluded to under twelve names, with epithets peculiar to each, as though they were twelve distinct sun-deities:—
"The first form of the sun is Indra, the lord of the gods, and the destroyer of their enemies; the second, Dhata, the creator of all things; the third, Parjanya, residing in the clouds, and showering rain on the earth from its beams; the fourth, Twasta, who dwells in all corporeal forms; the fifth, Pushan, who gives nutriment to all beings; the sixth, Aryama, who brings sacrifices to a successful conclusion; the seventh derives his name from almsgiving, and delights mendicants with gifts; the eighth is called Vivasvan, who ensures digestion; the ninth, Vishnu, who constantly manifests himself for the destruction of the enemies of the gods; the tenth, Ansuman, who preserves the vital organs in a sound state; the eleventh, Varuna, who, residing in the waters, vivifies the universe; and the twelfth, Mitra, who dwells in the orb of the moon, for the benefit of the three worlds. These are the twelve splendours of the sun, the supreme spirit, who through them pervades the universe, and irradiates the inmost souls of men."
Surya is said to have Aruna (Rosy), the Dawn, the son of Kasyapa and Kadru, as his charioteer.
According to the Rāmāyana, Sugriva, the king of the monkey host which assisted Rāma in his great expedition to regain possession of Vita his wife, was a son of Surya by a monkey. According to the Mahābhārata, the hero Karna also was the son of this deity; and when he was in the form of a horse, he became father of the Asvins, and communicated the white Yajur-Veda.
When speaking of the planets, Surya will be noticed again under the name of Ravi.
Among the many names and epithets by which this deity is known, the following are the most common:—
Dinakara, "The Maker of the day."
Bhāskara, "The Creator of light."
Vivaswat, "The Radiant one."
Mihira, "He who waters the earth;" i.e. he draws up the moisture from the seas so that the clouds are formed.
Grahapati, "The Lord of the stars."
Karmasākshi, "The Witness of (men's) works."
Mārtanda, "A descendant of Mritanda."
Surya and Savitri are two names by which the Sun is commonly addressed in the Vedic hymns. Sometimes one name is used exclusively, sometimes they are used interchangeably, and sometimes they are used as though they represented quite distinct objects. It is supposed that Savitri refers to the sun when invisible; whilst Surya refers to him when he is visible to the worshippers. This at any rate gives some reason for the two names being employed, though it may not explain the case satisfactorily in every instance.
Although the hymns in which Surya is addressed are not very numerous, his worship was most common in the olden time, and has continued to the present hour. It is to him that the Gayatri, the most sacred text of the Vedas, is addressed at his rising by every devout Brāhman. Simple in its phraseology, this short verse is supposed to exert magical powers. It is as follows:—
"Let us meditate on that excellent glory of the divine Vivifier;
May he enlighten (or stimulate) our understandings." *
As a specimen of the language employed in some of the later writings in reference to this verse, read the following few lines from the Skanda Purāna":—"Nothing in the Vedas is superior to the Gayatri. No invocation is equal to the Gayatri, as no city is equal to Kasi (Benares). The Gayatri is the mother of the Vedas, and of Brāhmans. By repeating it a man is saved. By the power of the Gayatri the Kshetriya (Warrior caste) Vishvamitra became a Brāhmarsi (Brāhman saint), and even obtained such power as to be able to create a new world. What is there indeed that cannot be effected by the Gayatri? For the Gayatri is Vishnu, Brahmā, and Siva, and the three Vedas."
With promise of such blessings, it is not to be wondered at that the worship of Surya should continue.
The following translation * of hymns from the Rig-Veda gives a fair specimen of the language used in addresses to Surya
"Behold the rays of Dawn, like heralds, lead on high
The Sun, that men may see the great all-knowing god.
The stars slink off like thieves, in company with Night,
Before the all-seeing eye, whose beams reveal his presence,
Gleaming like brilliant flames, to nation after nation.
With speed, beyond the ken of mortals, thou, O Sun!
Dost ever travel on, conspicuous to all.
Thou dost create the light, and with it dost illume
The universe entire; thou risest in the sight
Of all the race of men, and all the host of heaven.
Light-giving Varuna! thy piercing glance dost scan,
In quick succession, all this stirring, active world,
And penetrateth too the broad ethereal space,
Measuring our days and nights, and spying out all creatures.
Surya with flaming locks, clear-sighted god of day,
Thy seven ruddy mares bear on thy rushing car.
With these, thy self-yoked steeds, seven daughters of thy chariot
Onward thou dost advance. To thy refulgent orb
Beyond this lower gloom, and upward to the light
Would we ascend, O Sun! thou god among the gods."
Surya, as we have already noticed, is regarded as a son of Aditi; at other times he is said to be a son of Dyaus. Ushas (the Dawn) is called his wife, though in another passage he is said to be produced by the Dawn. Some texts state that he is the Vivifier of all things; whilst others state that he was formed and made to shine by Indra, Soma, Agni, and others.
From the character ascribed to Savitri in some hymns, it seems more natural to regard him as the sun shining in his strength, and Surya as the sun when rising and setting. Savitri is golden-eyed, * golden-handed, golden- tongued. He rides in a chariot drawn by radiant, white-footed steeds. He illuminates the earth; his golden arms stretched out to bless, infusing energy into all creatures, reach to the utmost ends of heaven. He is leader and king in heaven; the other gods follow him, and he it is who gives them immortality. He is prayed to for deliverance from sin, and to conduct the souls of the departed to the abode of the righteous.
In the Purānic Age, Surya sustains quite a different character. He is there called the son of Kasyapa and Aditi. He is described as a dark-red man, with three eyes and four arms: in two hands are water-lilies; with one he is bestowing a blessing, with the other he is encouraging his worshippers. He sits upon a red lotus, and rays of glory issue from his body. In addition to the daily worship that is offered him by Brāhmans in the repetition of the Gayatri, he is worshipped once a year by the Hindus of all castes, generally on the first Sunday in the month of Māgh; and in seasons of sickness it is no uncommon thing for the low-caste Hindus to employ a Brāhman to repeat verses in his honour, in the hope that thus propitiated he will effect their recovery.
In the "Vishnu Purāna" † we find the following account of Surya. He married Sangnā, the daughter of Visvakarma; who, after bearing him three children, was so oppressed with his brightness and glory that she was compelled to leave him. Before her departure, she arranged with Chhāya (Shadow) to take her place. For years Surya did not notice the change of wife. But one day, in a fit of anger, Chhāya pronounced a curse upon Yama (Death), a child of Sangnā's, which immediately took effect. As Surya knew that no mother's curse could destroy her offspring, he looked into the matter and discovered that his wife had forsaken him, leaving this other woman in her place. Through the power of meditation, Surya found Sangnā in a forest in the form of a mare; and, in order that he might again enjoy her society, he changed himself into a horse. After a few years, growing tired of this arrangement, they returned in proper form to their own dwelling. But in order that his presence might be bearable to his wife, his father-in-law Visvakarma, who was the architect of the gods, ground the Sun upon a stone, and by this means reduced his brightness by one-eighth. The part thus ground from Surya was not wasted. From it were produced the wonder-working discus of Vishnu, the trident of Siva, the lance of Kartikeya (the god of war), and the weapons of Kuvera (the god of riches).
The "Bhavishya Purāna" says, "Because there is none greater than he (i.e. Surya), nor has been, nor will be, therefore he is celebrated as the supreme soul in all the Vedas." Again, "That which is the sun, and thus called light or effulgent power, is adorable, and must be worshipped by those who dread successive births and deaths, and who eagerly desire beatitude." In the "Brahmā Purāna" * is a passage in which the sun is alluded to under twelve names, with epithets peculiar to each, as though they were twelve distinct sun-deities:—
"The first form of the sun is Indra, the lord of the gods, and the destroyer of their enemies; the second, Dhata, the creator of all things; the third, Parjanya, residing in the clouds, and showering rain on the earth from its beams; the fourth, Twasta, who dwells in all corporeal forms; the fifth, Pushan, who gives nutriment to all beings; the sixth, Aryama, who brings sacrifices to a successful conclusion; the seventh derives his name from almsgiving, and delights mendicants with gifts; the eighth is called Vivasvan, who ensures digestion; the ninth, Vishnu, who constantly manifests himself for the destruction of the enemies of the gods; the tenth, Ansuman, who preserves the vital organs in a sound state; the eleventh, Varuna, who, residing in the waters, vivifies the universe; and the twelfth, Mitra, who dwells in the orb of the moon, for the benefit of the three worlds. These are the twelve splendours of the sun, the supreme spirit, who through them pervades the universe, and irradiates the inmost souls of men."
Surya is said to have Aruna (Rosy), the Dawn, the son of Kasyapa and Kadru, as his charioteer.
According to the Rāmāyana, Sugriva, the king of the monkey host which assisted Rāma in his great expedition to regain possession of Vita his wife, was a son of Surya by a monkey. According to the Mahābhārata, the hero Karna also was the son of this deity; and when he was in the form of a horse, he became father of the Asvins, and communicated the white Yajur-Veda.
When speaking of the planets, Surya will be noticed again under the name of Ravi.
Among the many names and epithets by which this deity is known, the following are the most common:—
Dinakara, "The Maker of the day."
Bhāskara, "The Creator of light."
Vivaswat, "The Radiant one."
Mihira, "He who waters the earth;" i.e. he draws up the moisture from the seas so that the clouds are formed.
Grahapati, "The Lord of the stars."
Karmasākshi, "The Witness of (men's) works."
Mārtanda, "A descendant of Mritanda."
Finshaggy
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Agni is an immortal who has taken up his abode with mortals as their guest. He is the domestic priest who rises before the dawn, and who concentrates in his own person and exercises in a higher sense all the various sacrificial offices which the Indian ritual assigns to a number of different human functionaries. He is a sage, the divinest among the sages, immediately acquainted with all the forms of worship; the wise director, the successful accomplisher, and the protector of all ceremonies, who enables men to serve the gods in a correct and acceptable manner in cases where they could not do this with their own unaided skill. He is a swift messenger, moving between heaven and earth, commissioned both by gods and men to maintain their mutual communication, to announce to the immortals the hymns, and to convey to them the oblations of their worshippers; or to bring them (the immortals) down from the sky to the place of sacrifice. He accompanies the gods when they visit the earth, and shares in the reverence and adoration which they receive. He makes the oblations fragrant; without him the gods experience no satisfaction.
Agni is the lord, protector, king of men. He is the lord of the house, dwelling in every abode. He is a guest in every home; he despises no man, he lives in every family. He is therefore considered as a mediator between gods and men, and as a witness of their actions; hence to the present day he is worshipped, and his blessing sought on all solemn occasions, as at marriage, death, etc. In these old hymns Agni is spoken of as dwelling in the two pieces of wood which being rubbed together produce fire; and it is noticed as a remarkable thing that a living being should spring out of dry (dead) wood. Strange to say, says the poet, the child, as soon as born, begins with unnatural voracity to consume his parents. Wonderful is his growth, seeing that he is born of a mother who cannot nourish him; but he is nourished by the oblations of clarified butter which are poured into his mouth, and which he consumes.
The worshippers of Agni prosper, are wealthy, and live long. He watches with a thousand eyes over the man who brings him food, and nourishes him with oblations. No mortal enemy can by any wondrous power gain the mastery over him who sacrifices to this god. He also confers and is the guardian of immortality. In a funeral hymn, Agni is asked to warm with his heat the unborn (immortal) part of the deceased, and in his auspicious form to carry it to the world of the righteous. He carries men across calamities, as a ship over the sea. He commands all the riches in earth and heaven; hence he is invoked for riches, food, deliverance, and in fact all temporal good. He is also prayed to as the forgiver of sins that may have been committed through folly. All gods are said to be comprehended in him; he surrounds them as the circumference of a wheel does the spokes.
"Bright, seven-rayed god, how manifold thy shapes
Revealed to us thy votaries: now we see thee
With body all of gold; and radiant hair
Flaming from three terrific heads, and mouths,
Whose burning jaws and teeth devour all things.
Now with a thousand glowing horns, and now
Flashing thy lustre from a thousand eyes,
Thou’rt borne towards us in a golden chariot,
Impelled by winds, and drawn by ruddy steeds,
Marking thy car's destructive course with blackness."
"Great Agni, though thine essence be but one,
Thy forms are three; as fire thou blazest here,
As lightning flashest in the atmosphere,
In heaven thou flamest as the golden sun
"It was in heaven thou hadst thy primal birth;
By art of sages skilled in sacred lore
Thou wast drawn down to human hearths of yore,
And thou abid’st a denizen of earth.
"Sprung from the mystic pair, * by priestly hands
In wedlock joined, forth flashes Agni bright;
But, oh! ye heavens and earth, I tell you right,
The unnatural child devours the parent brands.
"But Agni is a god; we must not deem
That he can err, or dare to comprehend
His acts, which far our reason's grasp transcend;
He best can judge what deeds a god beseem.
"And yet this orphaned god himself survives:
Although his hapless mother soon expires,
And cannot nurse the babe as babe requires,
Great Agni, wondrous infant, grows and thrives.
"Smoke-bannered Agni, god with crackling voice
And flaming hair, when thou dost pierce the gloom
At early dawn, and all the world illume,
Both heaven and earth and gods and men rejoice.
"In every home thou art a welcome guest,
The household tutelary lord, a son,
A father, mother, brother, all in one,
A friend by whom thy faithful friends are blest.
"A swift-winged messenger, thou tallest down
from heaven to crowd our hearths the race divine,
To taste our food, our hymns to hear, benign,
And all our fondest aspirations crown.
"Thou, Agni, art our priest: divinely wise,
In holy science versed, thy skill detects
The faults that mar our rites, mistakes corrects,
And all our acts completes and sanctifies.
"Thou art the cord that stretches to the skies,
The bridge that scans the chasm, profound and vast,
Dividing earth from heaven, o’er which at last
The good shall safely pass to Paradise.
"But when, great god, thine awful anger glows,
And thou revealest thy destroying force,
All creatures flee before thy furious course,
As hosts are chased by overpowering foes.
"Thou levellest all thou touchest; forests vast
Thou shear’st, like beards which barber's razor shaves.
Thy wind-driven flames roar loud as ocean's waves,
And all thy track is black when thou hast past.
"But thou, great Agni, dost not always wear
That direful form; thou rather lov’st to shine
Upon our hearths, with milder flame benign,
And cheer the homes where thou art nursed with care.
"Yes! thou delightest all those men to bless
Who toil unwearied to supply the food
Which thou so lovest—logs of well-dried wood,
And heaps of butter bring, thy favourite mess.
"Though I no cow possess, and have no store
Of butter, nor an axe fresh wood to cleave,
Thou, gracious god, wilt my poor gift receive:
These few dry sticks I bring—I have no more.
"Preserve us, lord; thy faithful servants save
From all the ills by which our bliss is marred;
Tower like an iron wall our homes to guard,
And all the boons bestow our hearts can crave.
"And when away our brief existence wanes,
When we at length our earthly homes must quit,
And our freed souls to worlds unknown shall flit,
Do thou deal gently with our cold remains.
"And then, thy gracious form assuming, guide
Our unborn part across the dark abyss
Aloft to realms serene of light and bliss,
Where righteous men among the gods abide."
Agni's Names
Vahni, "He who receives the hom, or burnt sacrifice."
Vītihotra, "He who sanctifies the worshipper."
Dhananjaya, "He who conquers (destroys) riches."
Jivalana, "He who burns."
Dhūmketu, "He whose sign is smoke."
Chhāgaratha, "He who rides on a ram."
Saptajihva, "He who has seven tongues."
_MrBelvedere_
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Can you bless us with your explanation of how Rube Goldberg machines work plz
Finshaggy
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The way most Polytheistic Temples operate is as Mystery Schools. An example of a Mystery School that most people have heard of are Qabbalah, or Freemasonry, etc. These are known as "Western Esoteric Mystery Schools". More examples of Mystery Schools are "The Society of the Horseman's word" which started in Scotland and is the group that first spread Clydesdale horses.
Another Mystery School is the "Miller's Word Society" (like Windmills and River Mills). There was a myth that the Miller's word could make a Grain Mill operate without any people working it.
Here are some more examples of mystery schools
Based around Stonemasonry
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasonry
Based around Wine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dionysian_Mysteries
Based around Christianity
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esoteric_Christianity
Based around Christmas & Bulls
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mithraic_mysteries
Based around Knighthood
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_Templar
The most common Polytheistic Temple in the world today is a Fire Temple. A Zoroastrian Fire Temple is dedicated to Mithra, while a Hindu Fire Temple is dedicated to Agni. Some Hindu Fire Temples are dedicated to Kali and they are used for Cremation Ceremonies and Rtiuals. Mithra (in Zoroastrianism) was considered the 3rd path (as opposed to the Good and Evil paths, Judaism later adopted the good and evil story and angels from the Zoroastrians) or the Grey path and the path of Illumination. They are usually Mystery schools.
http://jkhunter70.squarespace.com/picture/yazd%20-%20zoroastrian%20fire%20temple%20sacred%20flame%20copy.jpg?pictureId=9938686&asGalleryImage=true
In Hinduism fire is considered to be a representative of Agni on Earth and Agni is considered to be an immortal who came to live with humans. Below are pictures of Holi, it is a Festival of Color where everyone throws plant pigments on each other during the day while they smoke and drink Marijuana in milk (bhang). Some people have also started celebrating in America.
Aryuveda is the Hindu system of Medicine, and it is not about curing illness but making sure your body is healthy to start with so it does not get sick. Kind of like "An Apple a day keeps the Doctor away". For example, in India every Spring is when Holi happens and everyone throws the plant pigments on each other. These Plant Pigments are actually medicine, and they help people not get sick in the coming season by boosting the immune system. They also have all kinds of plants that support healthy urine flow and teas that can help with coughing and all kinds of stuff. They didn't know about Phytochemicals and Terpenes when they figured this stuff out, but they did figure it out. This also gets in to Incense and Perfume, Incense has always been associated with Religion, even Jesus was called "Christ" which means "The Anointed One" as in "Anointed with Oils".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayurveda
Another Mystery School is the "Miller's Word Society" (like Windmills and River Mills). There was a myth that the Miller's word could make a Grain Mill operate without any people working it.
Here are some more examples of mystery schools
Based around Stonemasonry
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasonry
Based around Wine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dionysian_Mysteries
Based around Christianity
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esoteric_Christianity
Based around Christmas & Bulls
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mithraic_mysteries
Based around Knighthood
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_Templar
The most common Polytheistic Temple in the world today is a Fire Temple. A Zoroastrian Fire Temple is dedicated to Mithra, while a Hindu Fire Temple is dedicated to Agni. Some Hindu Fire Temples are dedicated to Kali and they are used for Cremation Ceremonies and Rtiuals. Mithra (in Zoroastrianism) was considered the 3rd path (as opposed to the Good and Evil paths, Judaism later adopted the good and evil story and angels from the Zoroastrians) or the Grey path and the path of Illumination. They are usually Mystery schools.
http://jkhunter70.squarespace.com/picture/yazd%20-%20zoroastrian%20fire%20temple%20sacred%20flame%20copy.jpg?pictureId=9938686&asGalleryImage=true
In Hinduism fire is considered to be a representative of Agni on Earth and Agni is considered to be an immortal who came to live with humans. Below are pictures of Holi, it is a Festival of Color where everyone throws plant pigments on each other during the day while they smoke and drink Marijuana in milk (bhang). Some people have also started celebrating in America.
Aryuveda is the Hindu system of Medicine, and it is not about curing illness but making sure your body is healthy to start with so it does not get sick. Kind of like "An Apple a day keeps the Doctor away". For example, in India every Spring is when Holi happens and everyone throws the plant pigments on each other. These Plant Pigments are actually medicine, and they help people not get sick in the coming season by boosting the immune system. They also have all kinds of plants that support healthy urine flow and teas that can help with coughing and all kinds of stuff. They didn't know about Phytochemicals and Terpenes when they figured this stuff out, but they did figure it out. This also gets in to Incense and Perfume, Incense has always been associated with Religion, even Jesus was called "Christ" which means "The Anointed One" as in "Anointed with Oils".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayurveda
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Finshaggy
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5-Bromo-DMT can be found in sponges. 5-Bromo-DMT is very similar to DMT or 4-Aco-DMT. Not much has been reported on this, but the effects should be between that of DMT and Mushrooms. Doses may be able to be found online. The Pictures above are the sponges that contain the Entheogen. Species: Smenospongia aurea and S. echina
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5-Bromo-DMT
http://www.vice.com/read/sea-dmt-000481-v20n3
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21882941
Then there is Sea Urchin Eggs aka Sea Urchin Roe, it is considered an Aphrodisiac and it contains Anandamide which is a Cannabinoid that is produced inside your own brain.
Bulk Roe
http://store.catalinaop.com/Sea_Urchin_Uni_Vana_s/112.htm
http://www.seaurchinmaine.com/seaurchins.html
There are also TONS of Marine Indoles many of which are related to known Cannabinoids.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Naphthoylpyrroles
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category
henylacetylindoles http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Benzoylindoles
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Aminoalkylindoles
Once people began eating fish, they would have been consuming Omega-3 in higher amounts than before, and thought patterns would have changed over various generations (the people that were best fit for the new Amino Acids would have had better brain function and better survival rates during natural selection), and possibly even brain design itself may have evolved after thousands of years of Epigenetics.
The first evidence of this activity, can be found in South Africa.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klasies_River_Caves
And Pinnacle Point, Mossel Bay, South Africa.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinnacle_Point
http://mr-ginseng.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Omega-3-sources.jpg
"Python Cave" in Botswana is evidence of human activity that is not 100% understood yet. It seems like people were there for a very long time though. What we CAN learn from it though, is that humans were doing rituals around 70,000 years ago.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsodilo
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/12/061222-python-ritual.html
And during the time of Python cave, humans were making massive behavioral developments, South Africa's Blombos cave shows us this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blombos_Cave
Around 37,000 BC the first people settle the Island we now call "Japan". These people at some time developed a relationsip with the dolphins, and started helping each other. The dolphins chase the fish in to the nets, and the fisherman give them a share of the fish.
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2013/01/fishing_with_dolphins_symbiosis_between_humans_and_marine_mammals_to_catch.html
Also, at some point the people of Japan found the puffer-fish which they call "fugu", and it is a delicacy. If prepared wrong (meaning if the liver of the fish is not removed completely), then a person could eat the fugu and die. Some people have been known to die for 3 days (no breathing, etc) then come back to life on the 3rd day. It has been found that dolphins actually play with puffer fish in order to get a "high" where they act funny. This may be how Japanese people originally discovered the effects of the puffer. Unless they found out by catching and eating one.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Nojiri
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/science-sushi/2013/12/30/stoned-dolphins-give-puff-puff-pass-whole-new-meaning/#.U_AftPldW0U
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrodotoxin
This is probably around the same time the first whales were Worshiped.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_worship#Whale
in Sidon and Tyre, the color purple was produced from sea animals and purple became a royal color due to its rarity. The Phoenicians (Sidon and Tyre) also started producing blue from sea animals. They probably were the first people to blow in a shell to make a loud noise. Mountains of leftover shells have been found from dye extractions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrian_purple
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyre,_Lebanon#Foundation
Finshaggy
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Isolationism is the theory that bodies of water have separated all cultures until recently. Diffusionism is the theory that Humans have spent a lot more time on the ocean than just for fishing.
For a long time is was thought that the first Boats were Canoes and then from there people added extra walls to keep water out, and that eventually became a hull and a deck etc. (like Noah's Ark) But then it was discovered that the first boats were actually more like Rafts, and the goal was not to keep water out, but just to be as Buoyant as possible.
Then it was thought for a long time (and some people still think today) that Oceans were a massive obstacle that could never have been crossed until Navigation evolved and Boats became "Ships". But Thor Heyerdahl proved that wrong. He took 3 trips across the Ocean, 1 failed, but 2 succeeded, and he did it on a Raft the 1st time and a Reed (Grass) Boat the 2nd time. And he copied the designs of Ancient Boats. These Reed Boats are made from Giant Reed, and the same model from Ancient Egypt is still made in modern Peru, using 2 Bundles with ropes around them, criss-crossed in the middle.
Here is his book called "Early Man and the Ocean":
http://www.amazon.com/Early-Man-Ocean-Beginnings-Civilizations/dp/0385127103/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1419810593&sr=8-1&keywords=Early+Man+and+the+Ocean
The Aboriginals in and around Australia made their way to Australia and Papau New Guinea over 70,000 years ago, the Paupaun people have ancient DNA from a species of people known as "Denisovan". There is also a Dog there that is a species of its own known as a "Singing Dog".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denisovan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Guinea_singing_dog
Thor Heyerdahl proved that people can cross the ocean in ancient boats, but there was still (and sometimes still are) people that think "The Ocean was still far too expansive for Ancient man to even TRY to test it". But then there are things like the Kula Ring, which the Paupaun people still do today. What this is is a trade ring where they make dangerous trips in small boats just to trade trinkets, and as they trade trinkets they get more status between tribes. So it is not a large leap to say that someone might load up on trinkets and make their way as far as they possibly can, then just getting there and teaching an entirely new tribe about new things. Like Boats, or a New Metals, or Jewelry, or New Animals, or Double Headed Axes, etc.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kula_ring
The Yam/Sweet Potato is a perfect example of a Plant that made its way around the entire planet, and no one knows how. It's just everywhere.
For a long time is was thought that the first Boats were Canoes and then from there people added extra walls to keep water out, and that eventually became a hull and a deck etc. (like Noah's Ark) But then it was discovered that the first boats were actually more like Rafts, and the goal was not to keep water out, but just to be as Buoyant as possible.
Then it was thought for a long time (and some people still think today) that Oceans were a massive obstacle that could never have been crossed until Navigation evolved and Boats became "Ships". But Thor Heyerdahl proved that wrong. He took 3 trips across the Ocean, 1 failed, but 2 succeeded, and he did it on a Raft the 1st time and a Reed (Grass) Boat the 2nd time. And he copied the designs of Ancient Boats. These Reed Boats are made from Giant Reed, and the same model from Ancient Egypt is still made in modern Peru, using 2 Bundles with ropes around them, criss-crossed in the middle.
Here is his book called "Early Man and the Ocean":
http://www.amazon.com/Early-Man-Ocean-Beginnings-Civilizations/dp/0385127103/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1419810593&sr=8-1&keywords=Early+Man+and+the+Ocean
The Aboriginals in and around Australia made their way to Australia and Papau New Guinea over 70,000 years ago, the Paupaun people have ancient DNA from a species of people known as "Denisovan". There is also a Dog there that is a species of its own known as a "Singing Dog".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denisovan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Guinea_singing_dog
Thor Heyerdahl proved that people can cross the ocean in ancient boats, but there was still (and sometimes still are) people that think "The Ocean was still far too expansive for Ancient man to even TRY to test it". But then there are things like the Kula Ring, which the Paupaun people still do today. What this is is a trade ring where they make dangerous trips in small boats just to trade trinkets, and as they trade trinkets they get more status between tribes. So it is not a large leap to say that someone might load up on trinkets and make their way as far as they possibly can, then just getting there and teaching an entirely new tribe about new things. Like Boats, or a New Metals, or Jewelry, or New Animals, or Double Headed Axes, etc.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kula_ring
The Yam/Sweet Potato is a perfect example of a Plant that made its way around the entire planet, and no one knows how. It's just everywhere.
Finshaggy
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10,000 BC Hash is made in Taiwan. Hashish is also called "Charas".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hashish#History
A map of the Middle East
Then the Mehrgarh people settle India (7000 BC to 2500 BC).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehrgarh
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sindh#History
Lapis Lazuli beads have been found here, proving that there was an Ancient trade route between the Indus valley and Afghanistan (Badakshan, where the Lapis was mined)
Around 3,600-4,000 BC Lapis Lazuli in Egypt from Afghanistan (Badakshan).
http://www.britishmuseum.org/explore/highlights/highlight_objects/aes/b/bone_figure_of_a_woman.aspx
3,200 BC Shahr-e Sukhteh is built (in Iran), and lasts until around 1,800 BC. In this culture is seems as if women had social and financial prominence.
Lapis Lazuli was found here as well, showing trade with Afghanistan (Badakshan).
Around 2,500 BC in Syria there is Lupis Lazuli from Afghanistan (Badakshan) in the statue of Ebih-Il
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hashish#History
A map of the Middle East
Then the Mehrgarh people settle India (7000 BC to 2500 BC).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehrgarh
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sindh#History
Lapis Lazuli beads have been found here, proving that there was an Ancient trade route between the Indus valley and Afghanistan (Badakshan, where the Lapis was mined)
Around 3,600-4,000 BC Lapis Lazuli in Egypt from Afghanistan (Badakshan).
http://www.britishmuseum.org/explore/highlights/highlight_objects/aes/b/bone_figure_of_a_woman.aspx
3,200 BC Shahr-e Sukhteh is built (in Iran), and lasts until around 1,800 BC. In this culture is seems as if women had social and financial prominence.
Lapis Lazuli was found here as well, showing trade with Afghanistan (Badakshan).
Around 2,500 BC in Syria there is Lupis Lazuli from Afghanistan (Badakshan) in the statue of Ebih-Il
