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Finshaggy

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If you want to learn about Ancient Religious Brewing, here are some links:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dionysian_Mysteries

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_wine

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninkasi

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_beer

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythagorean_cup





An Ancient Mesopotamian Keg Party









Strains



In a Temple you would breed your own yeast strain. For example, there is Bread yeast, Wine/Beer Yeast, Champagne yeast and Distiller's yeast. That is in order of the strength of alcohol it makes. To check the alcohol content of a brew you would get a hydrometer and check the gravity. Then to breed the yeast you would keep it at the bottom of the brew container, then add more materials and yeast of a new strain, then test the gravity of that next one. And keep adding strains with each brew, then eventually stop adding strains and start separating the yeast glob into different containers and letting each section of the glob continue as its own strain, then eventually figure out which one makes the Wine or Beer you like the most.



Christian Monks actually used to call yeast by the name "God-is-Good"



If you mess up making Wine, it makes Vinegar. This is where Vinegar and Apple Cider Vinegar and stuff like that come from.



Once a Temple has yeast, they can not only make Wine and Beer, but also Bread and Vinegar. Then it is not hard to figure out Cheese (from Milk, but different than Wine making)







How and What to Microbrew



Microbrew just means that is was not made in a massive amount. If you make a 1 gallon jug of wine or beer at home, that is a "Microbrew", and if you make 10 gallons in a garage, that is also a Microbrew. I am not sure at what point it stops being a Microbrew, but it just means you didn't make enough to ship around the country or whatever, it's a small amount.



You can also Microbrew other things:



Chocolate, if you grow Coco beans or buy like 10-20 lbs of coco beans, then make Coco tea, add chocolate then make that Tea into hash... You have make a "Microbrew" of Chocolate.



Peppermint Hash and Candy, Peppermint is actually an invasive species. If you plant it, it will come back every year. And you can take the leaves and make it in to hash. This can be added it Chocolate or Candy to give it Peppermint flavor.



Candy can be Microbrewed, it's not hard to make candy. All you need it sugar, corn syrup, water, flavor, color & a heat source.



Hot Sauce can be Microbrewed, I have even heard of this happening before. One of our neighbors when I was a kid made his own Hot Sauce, and he went around to Grocery stores and asked if they wanted to put some on their shelves.







In America it is legal to brew your own wine or beer, just not to make your own Liquor/Moonshine. I think it is something like 100 Gallons a year you are allowed to brew for personal use. And it is not hard to brew your own wine or beer and you can even make Champagne (not true Champagne, since it's not from that region of France). If you use Bread Yeast you will make weak wine/beer, if you use beer/wine yeast you will get stuff that is a little stronger, if you get Champagne yeast you can make it even stronger, and if you get Distiller's yeast it will be the strongest possible.



Here is how to make Wine, Mead and Champagne:



Wine and Mead are the same, but Wine uses Fruit and Sugar, While Mead uses Honey and Sugar. Mead just means you used Honey.



1. Get a Fermenting Cap or Fermenting lid or whatever it is called, if you search those things it will show up.



2. Whatever Container you use, fill it up about 1/4-1/3 of the way with fruit and sugar, lots of sugar, sugar becomes alcohol. No matter if the container is 1 gallon or 10 gallon, about 1/4-1/3 should be fruit and sugar, before water is added. If you are making Mead you could go up to 1/2 Honey and use less sugar.



3. Mix in Cinnamon or whatever Herb you want to mix in here. Then add water and mix.



4. As long as your water was hot from the sink and not Boiling in a pot before it went in the container, it should be ok to add your yeast. You may want to wait for it to cool a little if your water is extra hot, but about 10-15 minutes after you add the yeast you should start to see bubbles, it may take a little longer and you may have to shine a light through it.



5. If using Wine or Beer or Bread yeast it should take like a month to finish, if you use Distiller's yeast or Champagne yeast, it won't take as long.



6. If you are not making champagne, you would siphon and bottle at this point. If making Champagne, you would add water and Sugar to the bottom of your empty bottles, then add the wine that is finishing. Then once the lids were on the bottles, they would finish fermenting, and this would cause bubbles. This is done with beer and champagne.



If you make your own beer or wine, here are some herbs that are mixed in to a brew sometimes.



Hops: Contains Myrcene, this is the herb that people usually use to make beer.



Bitter Orange Peel: Contains a Epinephrine or Synephrine, it is used in beer making to make a stimulating beer instead of a depressant.



Lemon Grass: Contains Myrcene, Lemonene and other Terpenes.



Cinnamon: Contains Cinnamaldehyde for smell and flavor



Lemon Peel/Zest: Contains Lemonene



Orange Peel: Contains Lemonene



There are more, but this should be a good list for people just starting. There are also "Fermenting Sweeteners" since Sugar is turned into alcohol, if you want to make your Alcohol sweet there are plants like Stevia that have been used for this forever. It contains a Sweet compound different than sugar, so it does not turn into alcohol and it will still be sweet when you drink it.



Another Herb that was historically used in Wine Making, but us not used very much anymore is White Lotus aka Sacred Lotus. White Lotus contains a compound that attaches to the Dopamine receptors, and in ancient Egypt it was extremely common to let White Lotus sit in wine, then to filter it out and drink it. Or even just leave it in and drink it if it is just a few full flowers instead of a bunch of ground up flowers.



The Harper's Song





Death is a kindly fate.
A Generation passes, Another stays,
Since the time of the ancestors.
The gods who were before rest in their tombs,
Blessed nobles too are buried in their tombs.
(Yet) those who built tombs,
Their places are gone,
What has become of them?
I have heard the words of Imhotep and Hordjedef,
Whose sayings are recited in whole.
What of their places?
Their walls have crumbled,
Their places are gone,
As though they had never been!
None comes from there,
To tell of their needs,
To calm our hearts,
Until we go where they have gone!
Hence rejoice in your heart!
Forgetfulness profits you,
Follow your heart as long as you live!
Put myrrh on your head,
Dress in fine linen,
Anoint yourself with oils fit for a god,
Heap up your joys,
Let your heart not sink!
Follow your heart and your happiness,
Do your things on earth as your heart commands!
When there comes to you that day of mourning,
the Weary-hearted (Osiris) hears not their mourning,
Wailing saves no man from the pit!
Make holiday, Do not weary of it!
Lo, none is allowed to take his goods with him,
Lo, none who departs comes back again!
 

Finshaggy

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Grapes have been important to pretty much every Religion ever. Around 5,000 BC the first Wine was made somewhere in Iran, this was probably done completely on accident because grapes naturally contain their own yeast, which causes them to ferment without any yeast being added. To make Champagne you need Champagne Yeast though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hajji_Firuz_Tepe

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godin_Tepe





In Egypt, Wine making was a large part of Farming.





For anyone that is going to breed Grapes, it is good to added Genetics from Wild Varieties in order to get new things. This is how we got the Modern Cow from Ancient Greek Bovine and Ancient European Wild Bovine, the Wild one is now extinct and we can't make new cows with it. But there are still wild grapes.



Here is a site that sells a few Wild Grape Cultivars:

https://www.willisorchards.com/category/muscadine-&-scuppernong-grape-vines#.VQ9LvOFCB-A


And you would breed them with regular grape strains:

https://www.doubleavineyards.com/c-1-buy-grapevines.aspx



























If you are going to breed a strain, you need to get a Male plant. So start off by growing regular seeds, not feminized. Then once you get a male, make clones. Feminized (seedlees) seeds are made by creating a Hermaphrodite plant and breeding it with a female plant. Hermaphrodites can be made with many species of plant by rubbing them with silver, or putting silver in the soil, or using a product like colloidal silver all over their leaves and stem.



Spotting a Male is also not very hard, what you do is make clones of your plants and put the new cuttings in the dark for 24 hrs, or put them on a 12/12 light cycle. They will eventually show you which ones are male and which are female. Males have pollen sacks, females have a hair looking thing. (Grapes might have both parts, and the female part is what becomes the grape)







Once you have males, you can then get Feminized seeds. If you want to make your own strain, you need to make sure you have 2 different strains, 1 strain male, 1 strain female. Then you pollinate the female and you will get seeds if you do it right. keeping them together in a grow room with a fan is also a good idea.



Once you have seeds, you breed the seeds with their brothers and sisters. This is called "Locking in the Genetics". You have probably seen the Square with the 4 Genetic things, at this point you can choose exactly which genetics you want to show themselves and after a few breeding cycles you will have the "Phenotypes", that is what is in the 4 squares. This is how a strain is stabilized, and you have a new strain. This can also be done with different kinds of Tomatoes or Marijuana or Onions or anything.











 

Iloveskywalkerog

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Finshaggy post: 11447708 said:
A lot of people think that LSD, DMT and other Hallucinogens are comparable to things like Heroine or Xanax or Oxycontin, but there is literally no comparison between Psychedelics and things like that which are "Narcotics". And just in case anyone didn't know, the Structure of DNA (the Double Helix) was discovered by someone who was on LSD, and smoked Marijuana.
http://www.cracked.com/article_16532_the-5-greatest-things-ever-accomplished-while-high.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/11/science/11book.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

http://www.reddit.com/r/LSD/comments/2b0lek/franics_crick_was_high_on_lsd_when_he_discovered/
Who thinks that psychedelics are anything like xanax and pills, they must be stupid.
 

Unclebaldrick

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Dad?
Yes son
Why did grandpa hide a box of dirt for me?
Sigh, he meant it as an adventure... He meant it as a good thing.

Dad?
Uh-huh?
Do we have to go see him at the institution again? It smells bad there and all he does is drool and jabber about dodgecoins.
I guess not son. It's not like he knows we're there.
Good. I am saving this dirt for his funeral.

And, scene.
 

Finshaggy

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Dad?
Yes son
Why did grandpa hide a box of dirt for me?
Sigh, he meant it as an adventure... He meant it as a good thing.

Dad?
Uh-huh?
Do we have to go see him at the institution again? It smells bad there and all he does is drool and jabber about dodgecoins.
I guess not son. It's not like he knows we're there.
Good. I am saving this dirt for his funeral.

And, scene.
Lol. I already had a whole discussion about preservatives for hash and whatnot. And I am not sure if people realize this, but Marijuana is like 1 Peso per gram in Mexico if you don't be super white. So you can easily make hash down there.
 

Finshaggy

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Mexico is also where Mushrooms come from, and they have San Pedro cacti all over the place. So not just Marijuana to extract.

And there are a few cities that have Silver Mines, so they have all kinds of Silver. And Turquoise and all that. There are a lot of people who just go to Mexico to pick up Silver and Turquoise trinkets and then bring them back to America to sell at flea markets and souvenir shops and stuff.

And you can always store seeds. They can last a pretty long time if you store them right. And seeds could be planted. If you went out to a place where there was like a little pond or river and planted seeds all over, then create an irrigation path so that the river waters the plants, you can create a little secret Grove, because those plants will make more plants and eventually will create a little patch of whatever plant is planted.
 

mainliner

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Mexico is also where Mushrooms come from, and they have San Pedro cacti all over the place. So not just Marijuana to extract.

And there are a few cities that have Silver Mines, so they have all kinds of Silver. And Turquoise and all that. There are a lot of people who just go to Mexico to pick up Silver and Turquoise trinkets and then bring them back to America to sell at flea markets and souvenir shops and stuff.

And you can always store seeds. They can last a pretty long time if you store them right. And seeds could be planted. If you went out to a place where there was like a little pond or river and planted seeds all over, then create an irrigation path so that the river waters the plants, you can create a little secret Grove, because those plants will make more plants and eventually will create a little patch of whatever plant is planted.
finny you know the san pedro cactus ..... What does it look like when there about 2 years old?

i think i might have one lol seriously iv got like 20 cactus but i don't know the names of all .

iv got barrel and prickly pear etc
 

abe supercro

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And there are a few cities that have Silver Mines, so they have all kinds of Silver. And Turquoise and all that. There are a lot of people who just go to Mexico to pick up Silver and Turquoise trinkets and then bring them back to America to sell at flea markets and souvenir shops and stuff.
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brush up on exchange rates and haggling skills if you plan to make it as a trader in mexico! man those ppl know the art of haggling. Only been to Juarez once on my way out west. And Tijuana, while a resident of Los Angeles. All the little kids dwn there have Chiclets Gum while swarming you for spare change; at least that was my perception of how it was back then.
 

Finshaggy

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finny you know the san pedro cactus ..... What does it look like when there about 2 years old?

i think i might have one lol seriously iv got like 20 cactus but i don't know the names of all .

iv got barrel and prickly pear etc
It should have a star with around 6 or 8 points (like if you were to chop it, it would look like a star), that is how you tell a San Pedro. And it's spikes aren't very Flamboyant. I know one of its relatives has longer spikes with Orange and stuff on them.
 

Finshaggy

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brush up on exchange rates and haggling skills if you plan to make it as a trader in mexico! man those ppl know the art of haggling. Only been to Juarez once on my way out west. And Tijuana, while a resident of Los Angeles. All the little kids dwn there have Chiclets Gum while swarming you for spare change; at least that was my perception of how it was back then.
I don't plan on trading in Mexico. If I went right now I would go for Marijuana Genetics, and maybe Mushrooms genetics and maybe San Pedro Genetics. So seeds and spores. Which are also all legal to posses.
 

mainliner

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It should have a star with around 6 or 8 points (like if you were to chop it, it would look like a star), that is how you tell a San Pedro. And it's spikes aren't very Flamboyant. I know one of its relatives has longer spikes with Orange and stuff on them.
i think iv got one:)

i got it two years ago it was 2" tall and its know going on 1' ½ tall

its a star shape if cut sideways .
 

abe supercro

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I'd grab some of that silver and turquoise jewelry if the craftsmanship looked right, possibly a wife too. I'm in possession of a mexican sterling money clip passed dwn from g'pa that has an Aztec calendar medallion on it.
 
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