Ebb and flow plant problems.

Nevermind on that last update. Just noticed that the pump was off and they did not get water. The ph must of slowly adjusted from 5.6 to 6.1
I will adjust it back to 5.8 and then feed them

a large reservoir like that could take several hours to buffer out

what I did when I had a large res. is I would add a "T" and 2 valves to the feed/fill pump allowing me to divert the solution from the tray back to the res.

basically just recirculating the solution to mix it faster

another words...when the pump was turned on the tray wouldn't fill up cuz a valve would be closed,
instead youd open the second valve that spills the water back in to the res so the pump does the mixing/stirring


in your system the pump might not be large enough to bother, im not sure

you could add a second pump just for mixing

go to lowers or home depot and get a 1/3 hp pump (preferably without the float valve) for $80 drop it in the bottom and turn it on only when you want to stir the mix after inputs

I have a pump sucking out the water from the bottom of my res. And circulating it through a chiller and dumps the water on top of res.

with a resevior that size you might eventually learn to mix dry salts

itll save you some money

Drfeelgood420 said:

I have a pump sucking out the water from the bottom of my res. And circulating it through a chiller and dumps the water on top of res.

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gotcha

so you got that part covered

your still in veg yes?

if I was you id get the 5ft wide trellis netting

stretch it across the entire length and bend those plants down under it

take a good 12 to 16" out of the height/ lower the lights and allow them to bush out a bit more

the growth is kinda stretchy

what type light is that? watts/bulb type

this is something I grabbed off youtube

I didn't listen

but its got the trellis netting

in your case id set the netting down low and bed the branches under it

kinda scrog style... just keep tucking the highest tops under to keep them low as the lower growth catches up

then all the side branches will begin to come up and bush them out a bit

heres a picture of mine at the moment

these are super stretchy and significantly taller and less bushy a week ago

I'm running hps at 600 right now. I Will crank them to 1000 when flower.
Got my netting done today.

damn

looks good

id lower the lights though

600 watts you should be able to be maybe 24" above canopy

or id bump the wattage up too 1000 and put the light about 30"

I got two rooms and not enough power to have 18 lights on 1000w. Till I start flower I can have both rooms on a 12/12 so that both rooms are not at the same time I can switch to 1000w

then lower the 600s

how high are they set above the canopy,, maybe its not as high as the picture makes it look idk

you can set a 600 watt buld between 18" and 24" max above the canopy

Update on my girls
6-27
New reservoir nutrients.
Flora nova grow 6ml/g
Epson salt 1/8tsp /G
Calmag 2ml/G
And I added Hydrozyme 6ml/G

P.h. 5.8 ppm 1010
6-29-17
P.h. 6.0 ppm 1010
6-30-17
P.h. 6.1 ppm 1020
7-1-17
Added 10 gallons water to Reservoir.
P.h. 5.9 ppm 950
7-2-17
P.h. 5.9 ppm 980
7-3-17
Added 15 gallons water to Reservoir
P.h.5.6 ppm 870

I have done one spray of epson salt on leafs. I will spray again today and change out reservoir water. Should I increase the ppm or stick to the same schedule as last time.
Thank you

ok so your log tells us the ppm is very very close but slightly high

your grtting a ph swing up which is good but your ppm is rising

so id drop the ppm down to 800ppm

how much Epsom salt are you using to spray with ..per gallon

theyre showing strong signs of magnesium def

id spray them every 2 days with 1/2 tsp per gallon for 3 or 4x

also for a short period of time go ahead and raise your calmag up to 4mls per gallon (maybe for 1 week) and then go back to the original formula with 2mls per gallon...
we just want to give it a little extra magnesium and calcium to help get past the def you where suffering from, after its gotten a little extra youll want to go back to the original formula to keep the balance proper

Could it be the ppm go high because the water is being used up and we get a concentrated water? Or its like they are not eating?
I used 1/2 tsp per gallon to spray and I mixed 1/8stp per gallon into reservoir
Tomorrow I will change out reservoir.
So I'll mix
Flora nova grow 6ml/g
Epson salt 1/8tsp/g
Cal mag 4ml/g
I have some voodoo juice beneficial bacteria root zone expander should I put some in?


Is 1/8tsp of salt ok or should I do more?

im surprised to see your ppm rise as the nutes your feeding arent strong for the size of those plants

the only other possibility that comes to mind is

the grow rocks can hold salts and sometimes it can be hard to get them rinsed..let make sure your not holding salts in the rocks that are throwing out your ppm log and creating a rise in ppm giving a false suggestion of over feeding

on your next reservoir change go ahead and give them a flush with only ph'd Epsom and calmag
id water them 1 or 2 times within and hour and then drain the reservoir and refill it with the nute mix

you don't need a full reservoir...you might be able to only fill it half way (or whatever it takes to fill your buckets) for the flush

I have sledgehammer for a flushing. Should I use that or just ph water and calmag and epson salt 1/8 tsp per gallon

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Could it be the ppm go high because the water is being used up and we get a concentrated water? Or its like they are not eating?
I used 1/2 tsp per gallon to spray and I mixed 1/8stp per gallon into reservoir
Tomorrow I will change out reservoir.
So I'll mix
Flora nova grow 6ml/g
Epson salt 1/8tsp/g
Cal mag 4ml/g
I have some voodoo juice beneficial bacteria root zone expander should I put some in?


Is 1/8tsp of salt ok or should I do more?

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no don't do more of the Epsom... were already raising it cause them some in the calmag

yes that's how id mix it for 1 week and then go back

I wouldn't mess with adding anything new (voodoo or whatever) until we got you past this issue
the hygrozyme is good...

no the ppm is climbing so that means its drinking water and leaving behind salt... so the water is too salty

unless its a false reading because the rocks are holding salts that are leaching out and creating the appearance of over feeding

so were gonna flush them out good to make sure that's not an issue

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I have sledgehammer for a flushing. Should I use that or just ph water and calmag and epson salt 1/8 tsp per gallon

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whats in the sledge hammer?

is it sugar?

or a sterilizing agent? either way I wouldn't use it

the sterilizing agent will work against your enzyme hygrozyme and sugars aren't good for hydro grows imho