homebrewer
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I added protekt first and with a little trial and error I found around 4mls balances the acidity of my plant food.
Dyna-Gro vs Advanced Nutrients Connoisseur (AK47 Grow)
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questiondj42
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You sir, are a gentleman and a scholar.
supdro
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HB i was thinking that but with changing variables of filter getting dirty the ph and ec of water coming out will have an effect over time. May or may not have the same outcome. Long as they stay green!
chuck estevez
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take a look at this, look at his reply to what I asked him. It never fails with distilled
https://www.rollitup.org/t/red-stems-unknown-strain.893794/#post-12175891
https://www.rollitup.org/t/red-stems-unknown-strain.893794/#post-12175891
homebrewer
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His plant looks fine though.
chuck estevez
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it's just starting, next the leaves will start to yellow and the red will get worse. Don't you find it funny how many times I find this problem and the answer they always say is distilled water?
homebrewer
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I think in the case of that guy, he only has four grows under his belt and is currently growing a very healthy plant. Apparently he's never seen anything other than green stems so he comes to the forum for advice. What is funny is that 9 out of 10 new growers in his situation overthink a non-issue like 'colored stems' and make a change that will cause an actual problem for the plant.
IMO, he has a healthy plant with no problems and he should stay the course.
chuck estevez
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guess time will tell
SamsonsRiddle
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Buckle up, buckaroos!
Here's the update of my feeding log along with pictures, they were taken right after lights came on and they haven't receieved their water yet. All ppm measurements are on the .5 scale and the ppm's are mixture 1:1 of Foliage Pro and Protekt mixed into Distiller water or store bought R.O. water (20ppm).
I'm noticing a little yellowing on the bottom (already plucked off two little buggers that only needed me to breathe on them the wrong way to knock em off - completely yellow) and have started to increase dosage accordingly. The current amount of water I'm using allows for just enough runoff to measure my ppms. When i first started watering enough for runoff the ppm coming out was at 1900, today it is at about 350.
Any thoughts?
12/23 16oz@130ppm <---recommended by @homebrewer
12/24 16oz@148ppm
12/26 32oz@135ppm
12/28 32oz@140ppm
12/30 32oz@131ppm
1/1 32oz@146ppm
1/3 32oz@162ppm
Still using the turkey baster.
Here's the update of my feeding log along with pictures, they were taken right after lights came on and they haven't receieved their water yet. All ppm measurements are on the .5 scale and the ppm's are mixture 1:1 of Foliage Pro and Protekt mixed into Distiller water or store bought R.O. water (20ppm).
I'm noticing a little yellowing on the bottom (already plucked off two little buggers that only needed me to breathe on them the wrong way to knock em off - completely yellow) and have started to increase dosage accordingly. The current amount of water I'm using allows for just enough runoff to measure my ppms. When i first started watering enough for runoff the ppm coming out was at 1900, today it is at about 350.
Any thoughts?
12/23 16oz@130ppm <---recommended by @homebrewer
12/24 16oz@148ppm
12/26 32oz@135ppm
12/28 32oz@140ppm
12/30 32oz@131ppm
1/1 32oz@146ppm
1/3 32oz@162ppm
Still using the turkey baster.
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homebrewer
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I'm confused at how your medium looks dry yet you're feeding them a quart of water every other day. Your medium should be drying out evenly and even then, it shouldn't be drying out. It should go from wet to moist. Don't worry about a yellow leaf or two, work on growing healthy roots in a healthy, hydrated medium.
SamsonsRiddle
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Factors leading to quickly drying:
Very quick ventilation
Fabric Pot
Oscillation fan blows on the pot
Temperature pretty static at 79
I started watering every day today and will see what happens with her. It took 28oz (140ppm) to get about the same runoff i was getting before (5%).
Very quick ventilation
Fabric Pot
Oscillation fan blows on the pot
Temperature pretty static at 79
I started watering every day today and will see what happens with her. It took 28oz (140ppm) to get about the same runoff i was getting before (5%).
homebrewer
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Yeah, every day with maybe a little less water. Keep us posted.
farside05
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HB, thanks for this thread. I've read this thread from start to finish. Took me a couple slow nights at work to accomplish the task. I'm a relative rookie, I have one half-assed grow under my belt and think I know where I went wrong. First the particulars. I'm growing Auto's, 3 gallon fabric pots, Promix + 20% perlite, 2 - 300 watt LED's with 2 more on the way, 6 in duct fan connected to a carbon filter, and an oscillating tower fan blowing across the plants, Foliage Pro and Pro-Tekt, tap water at 144 ppm. Just happened to make the choice on Dyna-Gro products based on some other things I had read and up front cost but before finding this thread. Was hoping to find a magic bullet/feeding schedule when I began this read, but understand now why its not possible. About my 1st grow. Everything was going well for about 30 days then I started getting spots on the edges of leaves and lightness between veins. From pics i've seen it looked like both Calcium and Magnesium deficiencies. I tried different PH levels thinking that they were getting locked out. That didn't help much. Bought Mag-Pro, didn't help much. Where I think I went wrong was not watering to the point of runoff and getting some salt buildup which threw everything way off and locked out nutrients. I suffered through it and harvested enough to supply the wife with meds until the next harvest. I'm on to my next grow and planning on doing MUCH better. I'm about 25 days in and so far everything looks pretty good, minus some nute burn on one of the plants. I have 2 different strains going, same age, and fed them the same (1/4 tsp per gallon of Foliage Pro on their 1st feed). Ice Cool got burnt by that amount and my Trainwrecks were showing some nitrogen deficiencies at the same feeding level. This only goes to prove that there is no magic feeding schedule like I originally had hoped I'd find. The environment was exactly the same and just the difference of which strain you are growing can dictate how much you feed. I'm learning more on how to read my plants needs and hope to triple my yield from last time. Another couple weeks should give me an idea if I'm on pace.
homebrewer
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Your feeding levels shouldn't be burning your plants as I feed a more potent dose to seedlings. I'd also be wary of calling anything an actual deficiency as DG already supplies all the elements. If there is a minor issue like spotting or whatever and it's just on a few leaves, I'd say don't really worry about that as the overall health of the plant is more important. Honestly in my experience, I get spotting when my RO membranes need replaced and with your tap at 144, that's probably what is causing any leaf discoloration. Regardless, don't overthink it. Get the basics down before you try to get too technical.
farside05
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Call it lack of a better word. I know that it's not the nutes because everything they need is supplied. I can just say that it I had discoloration and spotting that looked like a combination of of things (based on photos I've seen diagnosing plant problems, because I had no prior experience to go off of). Therefore there's nothing else to blame but the grower and I accept all responsibility. I'm very analytical and tend to make things more complicated than needed. Paralysis by analysis so to speak. If you think it may be my water, maybe I'll get one of the big jugs at Wal-Mart. The wife would probably kill me if I dropped another $200 on a RO system after everything else I've spent getting up and running. At least I can use the big jug as a carboy if nothing else. I do the home brewing (and distilling) thing too.
homebrewer
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Buying some better water could be an option but sometimes the fix is as simple as watering more/less frequently with more/less volume. That can take a while to dial in.
farside05
Member
Interesting. My last watering a couple days ago I did up the volume significantly from previous and increased to 1/2 tsp of FP per gallon. They did respond favorably and put on about an inch overnight. The Ice Cool maintained its color and the slight yellowness on the Trainwrecks went to a vibrant green. Total noob question...Do different strains have a different color foliage, or should I be shooting for the same color leaves across the board? My Trainwrecks aren't as deep in color as the Ice Cool but look very healthy to me.
homebrewer
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Plants can be all shades of green and even turn purple at some point. If anything, you're looking for an even color top to bottom, but even then don't beat yourself up if a lower leaf or two drops when the top 90% of the plant looks healthy.
SamsonsRiddle
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I have been consistently feeding her in the 135-150ppm (.5 scale) range and she is doing great, with noticeable growth every day. she is a nice shade of green from top to bottom minus a couple of dried up original fans that have been plucked off. This strain (specifically this pheno) has a beautiful scent during veg, smells like a nice tropical punch. It's a very light scent and does not make you think of weed or skunk at all.
I watered for the first time at a 4 : 1 ratio of FP : ProTekt and it leaves the ph of my water at 5.9-6 which is awesome. I actually took 4 clones and am going to try and squeeze a solo cup promix single cola sog in the corner of my tent. As soon as the clones root, it should be a good time to start flowering.