DNC Email Leak

schuylaar

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Ooops, "democracy is trampled" -- a bit dramatic. Oh, and democracy is not dead, nor have the oligarchs taken over.

While we agree on most issues of the day, I very honestly don't believe 90% of the crap people on this site or in the hysteric right wing press say about Hillary. It's a pile of made up shit. Nobody has ever been able to take those charges into anything substantial. The absence of charges isn't proof that she's guilty. They keep looking and can't really prove anything. So, I disbelieve the hype. That you fall for it says more about you than me.

I think that Bernie is a principled man who would not have given Hillary his endorsement if he thought any of the stuff you talk about were true. His option for one would have been to call Stein's bluff in the Green Party and accept her offer to take up the role as their candidate. Or he could have rejected Hillary's overtures to include some of his policies into the Democratic Party's platform. He did neither.
FAIL.

Have you forgotten how means of production has now shifted the tax burden on to the middle classes?

Suggests food stamps to make ends meet rather than paying a living wage?

Negative Tax Rates = they pay no taxes

Benefit from tax CUTS?

You really can't be serious.
 

schuylaar

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Oh and by the way, (UncleCuck's on ignore) for anyone perpetuating this "Trump encouraging Russian espionage" nonsense, look at what Slick Willy himself signed:

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Plus Trump just baited Hillary into admitting that her deleted emails were a national security risk, she's run the most knee-jerk incompetent campaign I've ever seen in any election. Watergate has nothing on Clinton (lol she was kicked off the legal team for Watergate for "dishonesty and unethical conduct").
But if you have uncle buck on ignore, how will you know what what he says?
 

Unclebaldrick

Well-Known Member
FAIL.

Have you forgotten how means of production has now shifted the tax burden on to the middle classes?

Suggests food stamps to make ends meet rather than paying a living wage?

Negative Tax Rates = they pay no taxes

Benefit from tax CUTS?

You really can't be serious.
An living wage provides dignity whereas food stamps users can be drug tested and otherwise kept from getting too 'uppity'.
 

ttystikk

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Ooops, "democracy is trampled" -- a bit dramatic. Oh, and democracy is not dead, nor have the oligarchs taken over.
Yes, dramatic. Also true. Yes, the oligarchs HAVE taken over. Everything in our political landscape proves it.

Stick your own head in the sand if you like, just don't expect anyone else to join you- save maybe Chump backers.
 

Fogdog

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Yes, dramatic. Also true. Yes, the oligarchs HAVE taken over. Everything in our political landscape proves it.

Stick your own head in the sand if you like, just don't expect anyone else to join you- save maybe Chump backers.
Your assertion that Democracy is dead is confounded by your participation in the election. If you want to register a protest vote, by all means do so. Stein is a legitimate place to lodge your protest. If you vote for Sanders your vote won't be counted at all. CO requires an independent candidate to register and pay a filing fee within a month of the election. Any write-in votes for somebody who doesn't do that are simply thrown out.

The oligarchs are not flocking to support Clinton. They gave her money but also backed Republicans. We'll see what happens when a Democratic Party takes congress and the White House. With Bernie's support and that of the people who switched with him we have a chance to redress the harm done by Bush W and years of acrimonious tea bagger politics in opposition to Obama. My head is not in the sand. I'm clear about the need for a left leaning Congress to counter Hillary's right wing policies. You say I'm not paying attention when you have no idea what your own Congressional delegation is likely to do when Clinton takes office. Who is not paying attention again?

Here is another view of how lonely I should feel regarding my switch to Hillary:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/07/25/the-democratic-convention-is-chaotic-the-democratic-base-isnt/

90 percent of unwavering Sanders supporters plan to vote for Clinton in November

Pew asked those consistent Sanders supporters whom they support in the general election. Ninety percent said they back Hillary Clinton.

In the article, Pew's poll found that when people did switch choices, 88% of them were switching to Clinton.
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
FAIL.

Have you forgotten how means of production has now shifted the tax burden on to the middle classes?

Suggests food stamps to make ends meet rather than paying a living wage?

Negative Tax Rates = they pay no taxes

Benefit from tax CUTS?

You really can't be serious.
Take a look at the political landscape over the past few decades. It has been dominated by Republicans. Scores of state houses were gained by the right, all but a few years of Congress have been in control by Republicans. The left abandoned the electoral process in 2000 and 2004 which put the right decidedly in power. To say that Obama by himself should have been able to roll back all the rightward movement caused by old white right wing voters who showed up to vote when the left did not is weak minded.

Hillary is a right wing Democrat. This is true. Also a reason for putting Democrats in power in congress with Bernie and his supporters to back left leaning policies.
 

Fogdog

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I'm all in on "UK to stay in the EU" lolololol betting odds derp. They make the position with greater risk look like the safe bet to part fools with their money. That's how betting works, safe money loses every time.
What an ignoramus. You really don't understand betting odds do you? 34% odds -- about the same as Brexit "leave" odds were before the UK Brexit poll took place -- acknowledges about 1/3 of the time, the less favored outcome can occur. The election is a binary result, there can be no 2:1 payout.

You would take 34% odds every time? For straight 1:1 payment? Don't quit your day job.
 

Milliardo Peacecraft

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What an ignoramus. You really don't understand betting odds do you? 34% odds -- about the same as Brexit "leave" odds were before the UK Brexit poll took place -- acknowledges about 1/3 of the time, the less favored outcome can occur. The election is a binary result, there can be no 2:1 payout.

You would take 34% odds every time? For straight 1:1 payment? Don't quit your day job.
Homie, gambling is an addiction. It makes you poorer. During Brexit, a 6 million Euro put was placed on the "remain" side of the odds table to make it look like a safer bet than it was. All it takes is one guy with a large enough bait offer to tip the scales, and there goes your house. I'll take polls over casinos, that's just dumb man.
 

Milliardo Peacecraft

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Your assertion that Democracy is dead is confounded by your participation in the election. If you want to register a protest vote, by all means do so. Stein is a legitimate place to lodge your protest. If you vote for Sanders your vote won't be counted at all. CO requires an independent candidate to register and pay a filing fee within a month of the election. Any write-in votes for somebody who doesn't do that are simply thrown out.

The oligarchs are not flocking to support Clinton. They gave her money but also backed Republicans. We'll see what happens when a Democratic Party takes congress and the White House. With Bernie's support and that of the people who switched with him we have a chance to redress the harm done by Bush W and years of acrimonious tea bagger politics in opposition to Obama. My head is not in the sand. I'm clear about the need for a left leaning Congress to counter Hillary's right wing policies. You say I'm not paying attention when you have no idea what your own Congressional delegation is likely to do when Clinton takes office. Who is not paying attention again?

Here is another view of how lonely I should feel regarding my switch to Hillary:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/07/25/the-democratic-convention-is-chaotic-the-democratic-base-isnt/

90 percent of unwavering Sanders supporters plan to vote for Clinton in November

Pew asked those consistent Sanders supporters whom they support in the general election. Ninety percent said they back Hillary Clinton.

In the article, Pew's poll found that when people did switch choices, 88% of them were switching to Clinton.
DEC 2015 TO JUNE 2016 LOLOLOLOL, way to misrepresent data like a true Clinton sycophant.
 

Unclebaldrick

Well-Known Member
Homie, gambling is an addiction. It makes you poorer. During Brexit, a 6 million Euro put was placed on the "remain" side of the odds table to make it look like a safer bet than it was. All it takes is one guy with a large enough bait offer to tip the scales, and there goes your house. I'll take polls over casinos, that's just dumb man.


Glad to see you admit it. What a great President he would make. Taking advantage of poor dumb people.
 

Milliardo Peacecraft

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That was pre-DNC email, pre-convention flop, pre-mocking Sanders supporters as they walked out by the thousands. Also Colbert is a paid shill.
"What does Putin's dick taste like?"

"Republicans are such fear-mongers" proceeds with red-scare McCarthyism hysterics. It's over, come to terms with Trump now or November's really going to get on top of you.
 

UncleBuck

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That was pre-DNC email, pre-convention flop, pre-mocking Sanders supporters as they walked out by the thousands. Also Colbert is a paid shill.
"What does Putin's dick taste like?"

"Republicans are such fear-mongers" proceeds with red-scare McCarthyism hysterics. It's over, come to terms with Trump now or November's really going to get on top of you.
latest polls out have him down by nine in pennsylvania and 6 in virginia, and that is after the convention bump (which will fade). how does he win without both of those?

woooops, you can't do math.
 

desert dude

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Of course the media is in the bag for Hillary. This has been obvious to anybody with more than 3.14 functioning neurons.

It's hard to give you self proclaimed progressives any sympathy. You can't be bothered to complain about the loathsome Democrat party till it hurts your dreams of free stuff.

As Trump would say, "sad".
 

UncleBuck

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Of course the media is in the bag for Hillary. This has been obvious to anybody with more than 3.14 functioning neurons.

It's hard to give you self proclaimed progressives any sympathy. You can't be bothered to complain about the loathsome Democrat party till it hurts your dreams of free stuff.

As Trump would say, "sad".
as usual, you expose what a stupid piece of shit you are. it gets tiresome to point out how wrong you always are, klanman.





but at least you spent months lying about your membership in a white supremacy group.
 

Fogdog

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That was pre-DNC email, pre-convention flop, pre-mocking Sanders supporters as they walked out by the thousands. Also Colbert is a paid shill.
"What does Putin's dick taste like?"

"Republicans are such fear-mongers" proceeds with red-scare McCarthyism hysterics. It's over, come to terms with Trump now or November's really going to get on top of you.
Dude, or shall I say, dunce? Of course the poll spanned the months that -- at your reading level -- you were able to sound out. The language was above your comprehension level. The Pew poll checked back with the same people multiple times to find out what they planned to do over a six month period. Tracking the same people's choices over time was the whole point. What it found was that people who supported Sanders before and throughout the primary are almost entirely switching their choice for the main election to Hillary.

Trump can still win -- he has about a 30% chance -- but he's way behind. Is this your first election? Why do you think the Republican establishment is in such a dither over Trump? They don't care who it is, they just want to win...they need to win. Their experience and tracking polls are showing a complete devastation of the Republican party in November. From top to bottom, Trump is poison to the party. State houses, governors, both houses of Congress and the Presidency are swinging toward Democrats because the GOP is starkly revealed as the party of fascists, white supremacists, bigots and bone-heads like Trump and you.
 

Milliardo Peacecraft

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Dude, or shall I say, dunce? Of course the poll spanned the months that -- at your reading level -- you were able to sound out. The language was above your comprehension level. The Pew poll checked back with the same people multiple times to find out what they planned to do over a six month period. Tracking the same people's choices over time was the whole point. What it found was that people who supported Sanders before and throughout the primary are almost entirely switching their choice for the main election to Hillary.

Trump can still win -- he has about a 30% chance -- but he's way behind. Is this your first election? Why do you think the Republican establishment is in such a dither over Trump? They don't care who it is, they just want to win...they need to win. Their experience and tracking polls are showing a complete devastation of the Republican party in November. From top to bottom, Trump is poison to the party. State houses, governors, both houses of Congress and the Presidency are swinging toward Democrats because the GOP is starkly revealed as the party of fascists, white supremacists, bigots and bone-heads like Trump and you.
How's your reading comprehension bruh? Looks like Trump's way behind on opposite day.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

That study selectively omits the slam to the DNC over the email scandal. The head of your convention stepped down due to clear collusion, and was immediately picked up by the Clinton campaign. You think that doesn't make a blip? Where's your girl's "convention bump"? Doesn't look so good sweetheart, especially with more leaks on the way. Put your whole nestegg on Clinton, if she's such a safe bet.
 

ttystikk

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How's your reading comprehension bruh? Looks like Trump's way behind on opposite day.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

That study selectively omits the slam to the DNC over the email scandal. The head of your convention stepped down due to clear collusion, and was immediately picked up by the Clinton campaign. You think that doesn't make a blip? Where's your girl's "convention bump"? Doesn't look so good sweetheart, especially with more leaks on the way. Put your whole nestegg on Clinton, if she's such a safe bet.
Derp
 

Fogdog

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How's your reading comprehension bruh? Looks like Trump's way behind on opposite day.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

That study selectively omits the slam to the DNC over the email scandal. The head of your convention stepped down due to clear collusion, and was immediately picked up by the Clinton campaign. You think that doesn't make a blip? Where's your girl's "convention bump"? Doesn't look so good sweetheart, especially with more leaks on the way. Put your whole nestegg on Clinton, if she's such a safe bet.
This IS your first election. LOL. Polls at this time are not reliable. Gore was way ahead in 2000, as was Kerry at this time. I admit I was disappointed at the end result but I never put as much faith in early season polls as you are now.

The other stuff about the DNC emails and -- "upcoming leaks" woo hoo -- are certainly going to hurt. I don't put much stock in this idea that it means Hillary "stole" the election but other people have to decide and I have no idea what they are going to do.

But really dude, cozying up to Russia has never been good politics in this country. You maybe can overlook Trump sucking Putin's dick but it's not great political strategy, not even for right wing nuts who live untroubled by facts. Trump is probably the worst presidential candidate ever nominated by a major party.


Where's your girl's "convention bump"?
Where is the Democratic Party's convention poll number bump? Well the polls for that bump aren't available because -- wait for it -- THE CONVENTION ISN'T OVER! Ahhhhaahahhaaahaaaaahaaaaaa that comment of yours sure makes you appear stupid. Well maybe not appear, more like shows your stupidity.
 
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