DIY E-Nail

budbro18

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Hell yeah im ordering new boxes too that are slightly bigger. I kinda like how it is with the non removable plug. I mean its removable if need be but its pretty solid and only really ands like an inch to the total length when wrapped up. haha
 

tharealmclovin

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Any luck figuring out what that coil connector is called? I have been looking at all the stores locally. Without knowing what its called I sound stupid trying to ask.
 

budbro18

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no not yet ill have to just bring one in somewhere and ask around. Its such a weird little piece that everyones seen theyre just hard to name.
 

tharealmclovin

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id call it a cord protector or something, but when I ask nobody knows what i am talking about. Even went as far as looking in the lamp section at menards with no luck
 

budbro18

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Yeah i have a few left. Ill have to bring them to a few stores and see who knows what. A lot of retired carpenters and handymen seem to work there so theyd probably know. Might even need to look in a hobby store. Theres an electric hobby store by me they might know something.
 

NOVAorganics

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hell yeah im def wanting a unit from you. i can wait tho, im in mid flower at the moment so dont have but a little solventless left. Im not a bho guy. but hell yeah i want one if your still talking around 200 bucks range .... let me know there are a lot of companies coming out this year! WOW. but for sure i want. are you goijng to be able to offer any warranty on these? i know this is down the road still but...warranty work would be a major selling point for me.
 

budbro18

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Im lookin to sell em for $250 which is about the lowest i think anyone is going to go unless theyre having them assembled in china for pennies an hour haha.

As for warranty ive been thinkin of having a "replace the parts for cost"

This wouldnt be too bad because there are only 2 parts that ever break on them the SSR or the coil and even then its 75% of the time the coil.

I just wish i could make the internals simple enough that i could just send the part to the person and have them install it themselves. But most likely youd have to ship it back and have me fix it.

I should have 3 of them built and ready for sale by the end of the month. Just put in orders for most of my parts. Got new project boxes that are slightly bigger and i got an extra for my first enail so i can have it fit without lookin all bent like it was.

Im pretty sure these first ones arent going to have a plug. They might but im probably just going to hard wire them. I hate that all the XLR and DIN connectors are screw mount vs a surface mount type. I hate those extra screws and id have to get some nuts and bolts for them since i have a plastic box so it just wouldnt be worth it.

Hopefully im able to get them thoroughly tested too so i know the average life expectancy. The pid and ssr should last the longest and the coil will probably be the first thing to go.
 

budbro18

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So anyone havin any luck on finding a glass/quartz blower to make some of those domeless quartz enail nails??
 

tharealmclovin

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I sent Joel Halen a message on FB and told him I was making a DIY Enail. His Quartz usually retail for $200, but he was willing to give it to me for $100. That was the cheapest I found, so I got Ti.
 

biscuithead

New Member
hey I have some questions for you budbro. ok what type of wire did you use exactly first. and I got a new ssr and coil but I still have no rise in temp even though it is definitely set up right. could I have possibly burned out one of the wires themselves or could It be because they are copper wire..
 

budbro18

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Im using 16 awg like in the DIY and its copper. from home depot. Nothin fancy.

Im not sure what you could have done wrong? If you managed to connect the ssr and the pid than you should have your coil hooked up right.
 

nme

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What's everyone running their PID settings at these days? I don't really like to mess with it but I was thinking it might need to be adjusted some. It overshoots about 150* initially...then levels out but overshoots again by about 10* after each dab.
 

budbro18

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If you're thinking of buying the Nail from him for $60, you should check out eBay. You could pick up 1 for $25-30

I feel like too many of the cheap ebay ones are either made of non grade 2 Ti or some of the parts arent ti at all. Alot of times the middle threaded rod and the caps for the male/female fittings are stainless and nothing but the dish you actually dab off is Ti and sometimes even thats shitty Ti
 

budbro18

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What's everyone running their PID settings at these days? I don't really like to mess with it but I was thinking it might need to be adjusted some. It overshoots about 150* initially...then levels out but overshoots again by about 10* after each dab.
It def shouldnt be overshooting by 150 degrees thats for sure. Are you using the regular PID from the original DIY? If so thats the problem.

Thats why i went with the auber one. Same price/slightly more expensive but it actively adjusts to whatever you plug into it. So if i had 1 of the flat coils and wanted to plug it into my enail but i was running the round coils with different settings, when i plugged it in it realizes somethings different and adjusts the settings by itself.

On top of that you can autotune it for more accurate PID settings. Mine overshoots by 15 in about 2-3 minutes then takes another 2 minutes or so to drop to temp. Only really drops about 5-10 degrees when dabbing. More depends on how much we move the coil more than how hard we hit it. If its a long pass across the table the air movement will drop the temp more than hitting it will haha,
 

jdee

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So when soldering my xlr connector I messed up causing the plastic holding the pins to melt slightly, this may or may not be the cause of the problem I just experienced. I leave my unit on 24/7 but after today won't be doing that anymore. Thankfully I was near the unit when the SSR failed, causing it to stay in the ON position, meaning the power direct from the outlet was going straight to the coil, and switching the power switch does not stop the coil, only unplugging from the outlet does. I saw others run into this issue as well and it was attributed to either a short in the xlr connector or a failed SSR causing it to stay always on and get extremely hot and glowing. Thankfully it's only a $3 part.
 
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