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WarMachine

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Ahhh I see what your saying. Okay I'll try that on the next batch. Maybe I'll winterize the last batch that went greenish.
 

Fadedawg

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A good time to UV bleach the oil to break down the chlorophyll, is while it is dissolved in the alcohol for winterizing. The wax filtration will help remove some of the degradation byproducts.
 

WarMachine

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Well I did my run today at work. Used 10g of nugs,I put them along with the butane for 15 hours then extracted this morning. Came out a decent amount less green while it was chilling in the butane (no pun) (keep in kind I do the long soak method) then after I put it under a reptile daylight bulb which "produces uva, the wavelength that stimulates normal feeding" I think that might of helped but hard to say. It does look better purging so far. I'll have pics later today.
 

WarMachine

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I need to get a better heat source cause my pad gets to hot or something cause it made the oil darker. I usually use a pad rated at 102 but I figured that was to low. Now this one is to hot I think..
 

WarMachine

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I had it under the light for a good 8-10 mins. Before I put it in thevac with heat,I put it in the vac alone (no heat) and it looked very nice, as soon as I applied heat it started to change.
 

WarMachine

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Cup of the material, 10g of nugs. Not the best looking but not the worst..
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Closer pic of a nug.
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Picture of the material grinded up.
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This is how much 10g takes in the mason jar, I'm using a Ol' Smokey Moonshine bottle.
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Couple of pics after purging.
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My biggest fan, stalker, best friend, coworker, roommate and sometimes bedmate. Wondering if that is for him..
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Now a better pic of the extract (while he still thinks it's his lol..)
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BCOGYODA

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Hey WM I'm a BHO guy not ISO so I don't have experiance with the iso wash yet but with the BHO and I'm sure with all solvent extracts the color of your oil is also going to really depend on when the flowers were chopped. Sorry if you posted that info already. It's late and I didn't read back any pages yet. I run lot's of different batches of BHO from different farmers and my own stuff and I get so many different colors of oil all the time. And my Tek stays the same every time.
I get oil from light yellow to brown.

I have also found that machine processed buds really make a darker oil even if it has been chopped at an earlier cloudy trich only flowering time. The machines beat up the flowers and the resin just yielding darker oil. So not sure maybe those buds you got may either be from a late harvest and/or machine trimmed?

Also when you grind your material is it frozen? When I run any oil I first have the product deep froze, and my tane deep froze, then once ground I pack the tubes and re freeze then again till deep froze before blasting. Once again I know that is different Tek than the iso but maybe there's some relevance there too?

Anyway now that I said all that I'll go back and read the earlier posts :-P
 

WarMachine

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Hey WM I'm a BHO guy not ISO so I don't have experiance with the iso wash yet but with the BHO and I'm sure with all solvent extracts the color of your oil is also going to really depend on when the flowers were chopped. Sorry if you posted that info already. It's late and I didn't read back any pages yet. I run lot's of different batches of BHO from different farmers and my own stuff and I get so many different colors of oil all the time. And my Tek stays the same every time.
I get oil from light yellow to brown.

I have also found that machine processed buds really make a darker oil even if it has been chopped at an earlier cloudy trich only flowering time. The machines beat up the flowers and the resin just yielding darker oil. So not sure maybe those buds you got may either be from a late harvest and/or machine trimmed?

Also when you grind your material is it frozen? When I run any oil I first have the product deep froze, and my tane deep froze, then once ground I pack the tubes and re freeze then again till deep froze before blasting. Once again I know that is different Tek than the iso but maybe there's some relevance there too?

Anyway now that I said all that I'll go back and read the earlier posts :-P
Thanks for the post Yoda! What I did was grind my material and put it in the mason jar, which is where I do my extraction (consider it my tube) and I put my butane can into the freezer (0f) for 15 hours. I then spray the material and let it soak for 3-5 minutes (keep in mind im using butane not ISO). With ISO you are correct, the the tek is much different than butane. I'd be screwed with 3-5 minute ISO wash times :lol:.

The harvest might be late like you suggested, I know I have had the material for almost a year lol. But I do believe it was trimmed by hand. But to be honest, the fact you tell me your color changes but your tek doesn't deppending on the material does make me feel better. But like you, I have gotten golden oil where I can make a ring and ask I madam to marry, and I also have had brown oil where I just wonder wtf lol.

By the way, just in case, the was a butane run with Power 5x. No ISO were harmed in the making of this extract.. (I hope some people get this joke haha)








Ok I lied some ISO was harmed/used to clean the dish and razor blade... but I made oil with it and smoked it so wasn't really to harmed..
 

BCOGYODA

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Lol! :lol: Ok ya man I would say 1 year old stuff is going to definitely make darker oil. You mention you freeze the butane but do you also freeze the ground material?

And something else I noticed when I was playing around with making oil extracts from kief is that when I tried doing some batches by soaking the kief in liquid butane then straining, I yielded much darker oil than if I blasted it.
I think it has a result similar to how when you over soak mj with iso it gets greener and darker. But when we blast tane through material it isn't really soaking it. It kind of just blasts through it, not giving it much time to release chlorophyll and other impurities.

When I grind my buds they are frozen deep, then after grinding I put back in deep freezer packed in the tubes. I have done several experiments with this (I'm anal that way) where I have ran material that was ground unfrozen compared to ground frozen, and blasted frozen vs unfrozen etc..and always have the best results when I grind frozen material and blast frozen material.

If the bud isn't frozen before grinding it more tears up the bud and releases more chlorophyll etc.. but if it's frozen it immediately grinds to a powder without tearing it up; holing the particles more in tact rather than torn exposing chlorophyll. Just my findings anyway with my experiments. I fuck with this shit a lot. Trying to prove my theories before moving on..takes time but I'm kind of OCD that way lol
 

WarMachine

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lol I thought it could do with the age of the material. I do freeze the ground material as well. I see what your saying though, maybe with so old of material I should do a blast through instead of soak. I don't freeze my nugs at all, I just freeze what I ground up if that makes sense? Nugs arent frozen prior to grinding, only frozen after I grind it. Thanks for the help/info BC!

Think Imma take some of my wax that was slightly green and try to destroy the green! Winterize time hopefuly!
 

BCOGYODA

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Ya WM definitely freeze the buds before grinding. It helps a lot. I've yet to try that uv light thing with green oil. I have some greener oil I ran awhile ago that I kept just in case I can fix it later. Let us know how it turns out!
 

WarMachine

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I will OG I have the stuff in the freezer for now and will post results soon. Hard to tell if the UV light helped but I think it is less green.. Maybe I'll look into a t5 light too. Tis a shame it isn't very sunny today or id leave it outside a little bit lol.
 

Twitch

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76 degrees just 5 hours north of qwizo
and just because its 86 where he is at now doesnt mean the bad weather is gone, it was freezing 2 days ago in texas now its sunny and warm
and what do you mean i thought cali had like 75 degree weather year round our some shit
 

WarMachine

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So I pulled the material a little before 24 hours, I only did a G so I didn't think much of it. Here is a pic of said greenish wax.

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A little better pic of the wax sorta..

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Here is a close look with a flashlight sorta lol
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And here is the results after winterize and UV/Repitle light Repair.

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Close up flashlight

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Thoughts? Looks better?
 
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