conspiracy kush grow (tga test strain)

whitey78

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I'm thinking your SS wasnt cooked right.... You PH-ing it senseless and adding cal mag thats not kosher for organics isnt gonna help the situation...

The plants should have taken off by now in a big way...

If your hesitant to change the way things are going... Brotha... do it your way... I have no quams about letting someone waste their time and continue to do things wrong.... I was only trying to help as others have helped me...

If your SS wasnt cooked properly or long enough, you'll see lock out symptoms, PH problems etc... like you are...because the raw amendments that havent been composted enough are burning the shit out of your roots.. Compost teas are going to accelerate the decomposition of the organic matter in your soil making it usable to the plants sooner as well as giving them a little of the immediately available nutrition that they'll get with the tea keeping them growing decent rather stuck on slow mo.... I only know that because I did it myself..

When you PH your water... Do you add PH down (or whatever) and then see its gone to far one way then add PH up to correct it? If so your poisoning your plants with a cocktail of shit they dont even need to begin with... RO water is as clean as it gets and theres absolutely no reason to PH it...ever... Its absolutely foolish, seriously..

Dont listen to me, but stop listening to anyone else as well because their fucking you shit up dude...... Go do some research and figure it for yourself but you're gonna come to the conclusion that somethings not right.. I can assure those arent burns from the light... I have 4 plants less than 12-14" away from a bare 1000 watt HPS bulb on 1 side and another 4 plants next to a 1000 MH bulb right next to that, neither are dim-able, and my babies arent burning... They're reaching for it like 2 hands praying... Your turning the light up and the plant is getting hungrier, you turn it down, they dont need to eat as much...

I wish you luck, I highly suggest you do some reading about organics yourself beyond this forum... Not every post is guaranteed to be the true by anyone, theres no truth police here so do some research and figure it out but I can understand not wanting to hear it from me but its gonna be a disappointing grow if you dont figure it out... God knows I've had my share of them... I'd suggest not flipping those plants into 12/12 if you havent already until you do figure out whats going on...
 

whyblameus

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I dont see how my ss is bad when I already said the plants in it the longest look great and are growing great.

The messed up plant was already messed up way before transplantimg into the ss. And again for the second time that plant was only in the new pot 5 days when I took those pics. So what your seeing wronge with that plant isnt from the ss.

I never lower my ph then raise it back up with more chems. If I were to ever go to far with the ph I would just add more ro water to bring it back up.just like anybody else with commonsense.
I had been looking into a organic way to lower the ph even before you ever posted.
Im going to be using hygrozyme now.so ill also be adding beneficial enzymes.


Your comparing your mh and hps lights to a led. Do you have led experience? Cause if you put plants 12-14 inches away from my light it will bleach the fuck out of them.


I dont think this will be a disappointing grow at all. Im pretty happy with 8 out of 9 healthy plants. I dont expect perfection from my first grow its a learning experience for my next round.

I still appreciate your advice even though you seem pretty confident my planys are fucked.

Im gonna take your advice and use it how I please.lol

Im gonna top dress the messed up plant with ss. (Cause I dont think theres anything wrong with the ss)
And if your right about it needing fed it should help if Im right about my ss being fine.

I went the route of ss so I could just add water or as close to that as possible. Making teas to feed with kinda defeats the purpose of the ss at all. If I wanted to do that I wouldnt have made ss at all.
 

jhod58vw

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Damn I would love some tester seeds. I'm a big fan and done about 5 tga genetic strains. Even have about 5 strains in seed form.
 

whitey78

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I dont see how my ss is bad when I already said the plants in it the longest look great and are growing great.

The messed up plant was already messed up way before transplantimg into the ss. And again for the second time that plant was only in the new pot 5 days when I took those pics. So what your seeing wronge with that plant isnt from the ss.

I never lower my ph then raise it back up with more chems. If I were to ever go to far with the ph I would just add more ro water to bring it back up.just like anybody else with commonsense.
I had been looking into a organic way to lower the ph even before you ever posted.
Im going to be using hygrozyme now.so ill also be adding beneficial enzymes.


Your comparing your mh and hps lights to a led. Do you have led experience? Cause if you put plants 12-14 inches away from my light it will bleach the fuck out of them.


I dont think this will be a disappointing grow at all. Im pretty happy with 8 out of 9 healthy plants. I dont expect perfection from my first grow its a learning experience for my next round.

I still appreciate your advice even though you seem pretty confident my planys are fucked.

Im gonna take your advice and use it how I please.lol

Im gonna top dress the messed up plant with ss. (Cause I dont think theres anything wrong with the ss)
And if your right about it needing fed it should help if Im right about my ss being fine.

I went the route of ss so I could just add water or as close to that as possible. Making teas to feed with kinda defeats the purpose of the ss at all. If I wanted to do that I wouldnt have made ss at all.

Good man... Thats how its supposed to be and what I was trying to say under my snooty, know it all remarks... Take what you need and leave the rest of the babble behind, I'm sorry I babbled so much... Your grow isnt fucked for the one simple reason, you give a shit and wanna get better at it, I understand the hesitation to listen to anyone, and I agree... I was a little more involved with this thread than I should have been several pages back, every time I tried posting to stop the non-sense you were being advised of, I'd get sidetracked and end up walking away mid-post.. But some of the posting on pages past in this thread kinda had me thinking you were doing some dumb shit...

Now I can tell you this from experience, however I suggest you use the hygrozyme on 1 plant that you are running more than 1 of because its really not worth the bottle it comes in never mind the $30-35+ price tag... That I seriously suggest doing some side by side action with to show yourself its not a game changer or as I said, worth the bottle its in... Its not a bad idea on the funky plant but its not something anyone needs in a organic grow like you are doing... Teas are a much better and cheaper option my friend, even if its a cup of worm castings in a bucket with a tablespoon of molasses bubbling for 24-48 hours... You'd be amazed at what that simple concoction will do when things are going bad... A bottled product should never be your savior, that is some truth right there, that you should keep close and even if you dont practice it, eventually you'll realize I was right about that... Adding super soil as a top dress can go bad for you, if its too much it could cause the plant to herm on you... The tea would have just got things brewing in the pot, adding supersoil to that plant is gonna like throwing gas on a fire... literally... I didnt think it needed more food per-say... Instead of the batch not being mixed properly or wet enough, you could of had a spot in the SS where there was too much azomite, or anything... The teas are the way... simple and effective...

However, I'll tell you that my plants are under said bulbs at those distances and even though I run vented hoods, I dont vent them presently and I have the glass out so they're actually right on the bulbs... Theres absolutely no bleaching and no clawing... meaning they're just fine.... I'll bust out the yard stick later and take some pics for you... LED's dont put out anywhere near the power of a HID, not that they're better but you really need to be right on top of them for the most part, its really hard to actually burn a plant with them... I've been growing under HID since I started and have yet to actually bleach a plant, I got a little too close a few times but you'll see clawing on the leaf edges to let you know its not happy long long before you'll ever see bleaching.

Relax though,... I had to piss you off a little to snap you out of it... A few guys were talking about flushing and PH-ing and all sorts of dumb shit that doesnt go on in an organic grow, at least when common sense is involved.. Especially flushing, that is the most moronic thing I've ever heard someone trying to do to supersoil... there is no such thing and you cant just wash away whats already in the pot of organic amendments like that, its just not gonna happen... Rinsing salt build up in a synthetic grow... yeah, I can see that...

But yes... use my advice how and when you'd like to, just do the same with everyone elses and use what benefits you and fits your grow.. Thats how this forum shit works, use the good, learn from the bad and sit back and watch the ugly...

Also, dont necessarily look at my tea suggestions as a feed... Thats not what it is... It is, and its not.. I cant think of a good article to link you to but applying a tea is just rejuvenating the microbial life, you can use them as a feed but its dependent on what you add to them... A simple tea with kelp meal, castings and a little molasses has no real NPK value but it "wakes up" the organic life you have in the soil already.... Its kinda hard to explain... But I'll find some links for you...
 

whyblameus

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I think you were wrong about my ss :).

Day 15 of flower20130511_144843.jpg

And a shot with all the leds on.20130511_144814.jpg

And at day 21 of flower20130517_134812.jpg


The 2 conspiracy kush. The second pic Is the plant that was messed up. Looks great now to me :)
I dont know why i cant get those 2 pics actually in the post but whatever.


I'm sure you can tell there's a plant missing. That was the cherry pie. I have been having power issues and my microwave kept popping the breaker durring the lights on and that plant hermied out. I put it outside and pick all the ball and nanners off everyday. Found 2 balls on the santa cruz gsc and 1 on the lucky charms. None on the rest. I'm keeping my eyes on everthing good just in case.

Also im having a pm issue. I have started spraying with horsetail tea so hopefully ill be able to keep it under control. Its mostly the ha og.

There starting to put on the frost now and the conspiracy kush and plushberry look like there gonna be sugar factories.
 

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behshm

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behshm

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whyblameus

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The obama kush used in these seeds is another test strain from tga its qurkle x pre98 bubba.
Subcool said it in the weednerd thread a wile back.

Its tga's version of obama kush.
 

geekmike

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The obama kush used in these seeds is another test strain from tga its qurkle x pre98 bubba.
Subcool said it in the weednerd thread a wile back.

Its tga's version of obama kush.
no, they used the cut. Dioxide and Sub were just BSing about how that would be their version of "obama kush" not the real one.

The real cut gets nice and big too.
 

whyblameus

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no, they used the cut. Dioxide and Sub were just BSing about how that would be their version of "obama kush" not the real one.

The real cut gets nice and big too.
Oh ok thanks for clearing that up. Sub confused the crap out of me lol.

When you say big do you mean the buds or plants or both?
Mine have small buds but they didnt get enough light early on in budding.
They stretched a good amout in budding. Probably a 2.5 stretch.

The conspiracy kush are the frostiest plants I have. Can't wait to try them.
 
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