Commercial scale grow needs input from experienced growers

a mongo frog said:

Im interested!!!!! Need something taller then 42 inches, but i think i could find something. Next time your in the garden and at that point shoot a pic of 1. And yea I'm at about 550 stakes too. The wife and i can bust it in about 7.5 hours with stakes. Have you done with the massive og bud flop?

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The 54 inch are better if you're doing less per light . They are 54 inches and 16 inches in diameter at the top ring. perfect for 7 gals or 10 gals my opinion. Stakes got to be too much for me. Are you using twist ties? they have those staple gun type things that tie for you they make it a little easier . This round I'm going to do 42 inch tomato cages with 1 layer of trellis above the top ring. With the 42s some of the taller ogs will do a bit of a flop

patrickkawi37 said:

The 54 inch are better if you're doing less per light . They are 54 inches and 16 inches in diameter at the top ring. perfect for 7 gals or 10 gals my opinion. Stakes got to be too much for me. Are you using twist ties? they have those staple gun type things that tie for you they make it a little easier . This round I'm going to do 42 inch tomato cages with 1 layer of trellis above the top ring. With the 42s some of the taller ogs will do a bit of a flop

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Im using zip ties. Im actually looking up 6 foot tall cages now but i could probably get away with 5 foot cages.

a mongo frog said:

Remember it doesn't stop there, not even with stakes. Going full OCD on sterilization of those stakes is going to cost. Your going to be paying some one 7 hours a day for roughly 2 weeks to get that done. That includes rinse wash rinse for total sterilization. And at 20 bucks an hour thats roughly another 2 grand X how many runs per year and the shit adds up. You may find better ways to sterilize stake but this is how i do it.

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is that comfy chair to sit down after a hard days work ?? i got away with stakes i find rebar mesh so much better pending on veg times an run 2 tier one at beginning of plant growth and mid way gives great support of lateral branching and an be re used over n over with a minor spray wash sanitize and for 107 buck 6 foot by 150 feet never ends always enough

2ANONYMOUS said:

is that comfy chair to sit down after a hard days work ?? i got away with stakes i find rebar mesh so much better pending on veg times an run 2 tier one at beginning of plant growth and mid way gives great support of lateral branching and an be re used over n over with a minor spray wash sanitize and for 107 buck 6 foot by 150 feet never ends always enough View attachment 3603316

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I like this a lot .

astronautrob said:

But you do reply, so your logic still escapes me but I'm enjoying playing devils advocate here. What I need to know is who's idea was it to get a cat in China, you or your gf?

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I will hit reply but not read your lousy posts! Except this one but only a little. But expect no answers to questions posed until you have something on topic Astro Boob!

a mongo frog said:

Remember it doesn't stop there, not even with stakes. Going full OCD on sterilization of those stakes is going to cost. Your going to be paying some one 7 hours a day for roughly 2 weeks to get that done. That includes rinse wash rinse for total sterilization. And at 20 bucks an hour thats roughly another 2 grand X how many runs per year and the shit adds up. You may find better ways to sterilize stake but this is how i do it.

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This post and slash your input has been the most valuable thing and far surpasses anything I expected from this thread!

Stakes aren't going to work. Like wrote them off the cash flow a day ago, but have been so busy being this is my last week in Shanghai and we are finding a place in Nevada + may be bringing on some mother trucking business partners! What what!

Not gonna do stakes. Too much labor as you've shown. Thinking we're going to go with a sort of chicken wire trellis or a wire, support beams, and ties setup. It's what I've seen in my competitors news ops too so I'm sure they know better than me at this point!

lawlrus said:

LOL

every post you make reads like an 18 year old who just walked out of his first week of a business 101 class at his local community college

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Every post you post is so useless that I don't even recognize your name when you post enough to know whether or not it's your first post to the thread or you've been a detractor since the start. But couldn't care less either way so thanks for the free bumps, whoever the heck you are! I'm not 18 for the record can't teach in China at that age, probably can't get a degree by then if you're a weed smoker either!

lawlrus said:

I just found a video of clymbrunfly in action y'all...he did a business

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Sure it's funny but can't watch, bandwidth being what it is. Just hope it's not something relevant! LOLRUS

EarthBoxConnoisseur said:

Damn you're still going??? Bottom line is I wouldn't try to open a giant restaurant after being a dishwasher at a ten table place for six months. You're that delusional you can't see why people are clowning on you?

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Well don't! Be a dishwasher your whole life then, lol.

THE KONASSURE said:

I like 1000w lights but if I was running hids and 150 of them think I`d go with 600w hps over 1000w cos unless your buying cmh or double ended hps`s you`ll pay less for the 600`s use less power and yield more gpw

that or go with some mixed lighting system

There ya go that`s my 1st free tip

the rest you`ll have to pay for

my fancy british accent is bound to impress any investor you have to pitch to, so message me and we`ll talk about my golden hand shake

It`s ok I don`t think your a clown but if you don`t hire me or someone better than me who can provide results then your investor may just bury you in the woods in a clown suit.................... not so much in the legal world but in the good old underground world many`a grower has be punished for promising stuff to investors they can`t deliver, make sure you can or don`t take the money off them.

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I read you're beginning but the rest I don't know what you're talking about really. Sounds like you're alluding to some mafioso stuff that I'm not going to be mixed up in lol.

We're going to run doubled ended HPS, but my limited grow experience makes me wonder why you would suggest downgrading on the 1000w MHs. Energy is a huge cost, yes, and we want to be eficient, yes, but I'm just wondering if that wouldn't hurt yield just the same.

Hell if I know! That's why need the grow master on the team stat! Wish you guys had some legal grow experience that could go on a resume! Would bring one of you on!

(Probably not really though, would have to do a background check, etc etc )

Damn this Wifi! Can't reply fast enough.

Red1966 said:

Hey! He's showing initiative! He went on vacation in China and bought a cat didn't he? Let's not pretend having nowhere near enough money to finance his project, not an inkling of what he's doing, and not knowing no country in the world lets one import/export animals without a quarantine period is going to get in the way. Now the important question is to be asking "Where are these investors?" I have got a deal for them!

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What? Literally nothing makes sense or is even correct in your post. Lol. Keep em coming though, everything I've replied to night wasn't so amusing.

Red1966 said:

Get paid up front. In cash.

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Lol. It is a cash business. But upfront? No lol

patrickkawi37 said:

2.58 cents for 42 inch tomato cages at Home Depot. Try a couple you will never go back to stakes lol. I used to take 3 days and 300 or so stakes to put up a room. I used tomato cages last run and only had to stake 4 branches . Nothing else flopped. It saved me so much time and headaches

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Yes

2ANONYMOUS said:

is that comfy chair to sit down after a hard days work ?? i got away with stakes i find rebar mesh so much better pending on veg times an run 2 tier one at beginning of plant growth and mid way gives great support of lateral branching and an be re used over n over with a minor spray wash sanitize and for 107 buck 6 foot by 150 feet never ends always enough View attachment 3603316

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I use similar cattle fencing outdoor. Works great

ttystikk said:

All I can tell you is that you better know your shit better than this if you ever come back to Colorado!

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No no and no on Colorado. Hoping to make my mil or 2 before the federal government knocks down state barriers to trading marijuana. What you have is basically a federally mandated monopoly. IE, if Colorado could sell their weed to Nevada, good bye Nevada growers. One reason I didn't look at Colorado is specifically because of the saturation. I have buddies waiting until Texas legalizes their market and I'm just thinking, man, better hope it doesn't happen too late.

You've got production companies, I.e. The people making marijuana-infused products, setting up operations expanding out of Colorado already. Scary competition.

I had something else to say but forgot

ClymbRunFly said:

Hell if I know! That's why need the grow master on the team stat! Wish you guys had some legal grow experience that could go on a resume! Would bring one of you on!

(Probably not really though, would have to do a background check, etc etc )

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Dang looks like we missed out guys, we could of been part of this dudes amazing business but instead we just acted like fools. How could we of missed out on this great opportunity??

757growin said:

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I use similar cattle fencing outdoor. Works great

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This conversation on plant support has been extremely helpful! Thanks a bunch to all of you who participated!

Sorry to use your reply like this but the VPN is crapping out so I'm going to retire!

Apologies because wanted to use this post to update the thread. Figured figures for everything as far as growing excluding the plant supports and pesticides/fungicides. Plant support is something I'll look at tomorrow, and pesticides/fungicides is something that I have someone looking into. Nevada requires any pesticides etc to be including on the label of every unit marijuana sold, so hoping to just snag that off of there. Otherwise, will need to do more research.

What's left is furniture, which is a joke to figure out. HVAC costs, general contracting, carpentry, electrical, and plumbing. This is proving more difficult because number 1, these people like to make estimates after seeing the actual project in question, number 2 because I don't have the phone or partners at this point that can make the calls in America, and 3 because industry breakdowns aren't readily available (the numbers I have reference startup facility costs, but don't break it down further).

Hoping to get some better numbers on these last remaining items before being state side.

astronautrob said:

Dang looks like we missed out guys, we could of been part of this dudes amazing business but instead we just acted like fools. How could we of missed out on this great opportunity??

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Frack! I wanted to reply to this. But saw it was you. Hell with it. I'll respond you nautical butt pirate! Stick with your day job! Don't sarcastically lament too much.

I've friends that have started out at the bottom of the marijuana grow business, as trimmers and agricultural workers (I.e. Marijuama farm hands), and are now working in management. But my time in finance showed me most people in America need to worry about the amount of the paycheck coming in, not being happy on $10/hr but getting to grow marijuana for a living.

Sad but true

ClymbRunFly said:

Frack! I wanted to reply to this. But saw it was you. Hell with it. I'll respond you nautical butt pirate! Stick with your day job! Don't sarcastically lament too much.

I've friends that have started out at the bottom of the marijuana grow business, as trimmers and agricultural workers (I.e. Marijuama farm hands), and are now working in management. But my time in finance showed me most people in America need to worry about the amount of the paycheck coming in, not being happy on $10/hr but getting to grow marijuana for a living.

Sad but true

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Time in finance = temp job as a janitor at a bank for 2 weeks