Coco Growers Unite!

Any recommendations on a coco mix that would let us water say twice a day? We currently have 4 plants flowering in soil and I hate it. The woman is fine with it but Im tired of grow medium stress related problems from either the roots or the base of the plant being water logged. Have a feel for the watering now but want to try some coco with some DM nutes waiting to be used.

I have the Botanicare, Royal Gold, Roots Organic, CocoDan croutons/ mix and Bcuzz coco lines available at the local hydro shop so that should be plenty to chose from I would think.

I love this coco stuff. I am a beginning grower, but have little or no problems with coco. It is a very forgiving medium. I have brought some plants back from near death. I have the grow in my journal with pics of my set up and all my nutes if anybody is curious

FLABOY1 said:

I love this coco stuff. I am a beginning grower, but have little or no problems with coco. It is a very forgiving medium. I have brought some plants back from near death. I have the grow in my journal with pics of my set up and all my nutes if anybody is curious

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Same here. Our four in flower is our first grow. After looking at your grow along with all I've seen and read on here I think I will be heading to the store for supplies to get the next grow going and my plant will be in coco.

thanks for the replies, zen master and jberry.

i guess i'm just wondering if these girls are going to be able to pull through, they look pretty bad mostly because its all the new growth that's fried and all the growing tips are fukt up.

i have a set coming out of flower in about 2 weeks so i think i'm just going to continue feeding these fried girls and see what happens.

i'll be making a run to the dispensaries to try to find some purple urkle or purple kush on sunday or monday...maybe i'll get lucky and find healthy ones for $10 each again (puple heart, oakland).

I'm a total convert to coco.... I used the drainage method the 1st time around and now I'm using it with autopots and the plants are going nuts,,,they love it and so do I

hello people can u use coco without usein a hydroponic system or autopots or will it dry out too quick as i can only water once aday thanks

123petey999 said:

hello people can u use coco without usein a hydroponic system or autopots or will it dry out too quick as i can only water once aday thanks

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dude with that coco you will probably have to only water once a week. check out my journal, it will definitley help. PEACE!!! -ZEN-

hotboxhatchback said:

thanks for the replies, zen master and jberry.

i guess i'm just wondering if these girls are going to be able to pull through, they look pretty bad mostly because its all the new growth that's fried and all the growing tips are fukt up.

i have a set coming out of flower in about 2 weeks so i think i'm just going to continue feeding these fried girls and see what happens.

i'll be making a run to the dispensaries to try to find some purple urkle or purple kush on sunday or monday...maybe i'll get lucky and find healthy ones for $10 each again (puple heart, oakland).

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that cool dude, you might want to just feed them like a quarter strength or nutes, and remember coco specific nutes only. like i mentioned in my thread all i use is the canna A-B, and floralicious bloom(bloom booster by GEN HYDRO). but hey if just looks like a wash, cut your best stems off , clone 'em, and just start over. i also mention how i start my clones in coco, and i haven't lost one clone in two years. PEACE!!! -ZEN-

ZEN MASTER said:

dude with that coco you will probably have to only water once a week. check out my journal, it will definitley help. PEACE!!! -ZEN-

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if u use small pots u can water every day up to six times a day.

i would try to use a pot small enough to water everyday.

sorry zen i didint mean to quote you when i responded... my bad.

jberry said:

next time just use plain coco... perlite is okay i guess but plain coco is what the nutes are designed for. Its not good to mix mediums if u dont have to.

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there is absolutely "nothing" wrong with using perlite with coco, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. coco already has very good air capacity (30%) but more is better. i "always" use 15-20% perlite in my coco. i wouldn't wait a week to feed either. coco is hydro and should be treated as such. i've been in coco for 4-5 years now and kinda know what i'm talking about. there's more than one way to skin a cat, but some of the replies i read here are f.o.s.

Silky Shagsalot said:

there is absolutely "nothing" wrong with using perlite with coco, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. coco already has very good air capacity (30%) but more is better. i "always" use 15-20% perlite in my coco. i wouldn't wait a week to feed either. coco is hydro and should be treated as such. i've been in coco for 4-5 years now and kinda know what i'm talking about. there's more than one way to skin a cat, but some of the replies i read here are f.o.s.

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you are right, but i guess it depends on what kind, and what brand of coco you use. i'm a two year vet myself, but i only use CANNA COCO. and with canna its not wise to add anything that might change the way the nutes bond to the coco. but hey like i say to everybody if it aint broke dont fix it.

Silky Shagsalot said:

there is absolutely "nothing" wrong with using perlite with coco, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. coco already has very good air capacity (30%) but more is better. i "always" use 15-20% perlite in my coco. i wouldn't wait a week to feed either. coco is hydro and should be treated as such. i've been in coco for 4-5 years now and kinda know what i'm talking about. there's more than one way to skin a cat, but some of the replies i read here are f.o.s.

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i didnt say using perlite was wrong, just not nessasary. like u said "coco already has very good air capacity."

when i said dont mix mediums, i was talking about the guys idea to start in rockwool.

i feed everyday, not sure what u mean by the "not waiting a week to feed".

and yes, zen, canna coco is in its own catagory and i think canna and there 20+ years of cocoponic research knows best.

what does f.o.s. mean anyhow? lol.

jberry said:

i didnt say using perlite was wrong, just not nessasary. like u said "coco already has very good air capacity."

when i said dont mix mediums, i was talking about the guys idea to start in rockwool.

i feed everyday, not sure what u mean by the "not waiting a week to feed".

and yes, zen, canna coco is in its own catagory and i think canna and there 20+ years of cocoponic research knows best.

what does f.o.s. mean anyhow? lol.

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don't mean to throw stones. i've use just about all brands of coco out there and they all (including canna) work well with perlite. coco is not truly inert, i believe perlite is. you prob. should rinse before use, but i don't. you don't really need to use coco specific nutes either, but it helps. i use pure blend pro in early to mid veg and then switch to h&g. i thought i read somewhere in this or the last page someone recommending feeding weekly. i feed like you, 2x a day. ideally, several small feeds a day isthe way to go. i don't have a manifold set-up though.

Silky Shagsalot said:

don't mean to throw stones. i've use just about all brands of coco out there and they all (including canna) work well with perlite. coco is not truly inert, i believe perlite is. you prob. should rinse before use, but i don't. you don't really need to use coco specific nutes either, but it helps. i use pure blend pro in early to mid veg and then switch to h&g. i thought i read somewhere in this or the last page someone recommending feeding weekly. i feed like you, 2x a day. ideally, several small feeds a day isthe way to go. i don't have a manifold set-up though.

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i agree with all that u just said...

sounds like u know yer stuff, i just dont bother with perlite anymore, i use to, but i dont anymore. it IS great stuff tho, and i always add extra to my outdoor mixes.

can we b friends silky?
lol
still wondering what fos means? hehe

jberry said:

i agree with all that u just said...

sounds like u know yer stuff, i just dont bother with perlite anymore, i use to, but i dont anymore. it IS great stuff tho, and i always add extra to my outdoor mixes.
can we b friends silky? lol still wondering what fos means? hehe

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i don't mean to come off like an ass, sometimes it just happens, lol. f.o.s. means full of shit. it's also a medical condition, LOL. i'm no expert, but i've been using coco for quite a while. sometimes questions get answered by folks who have only read on certain subjects. this is how confusion gets spread. it's best to go to a few sites and just read your ass off. there's loads of great info. out there on coco. it's been around for a while now, but seems to really be taking off recently. i go to a few sites and found people really liking coco. it is a bit pricey to get the non-block kind, but it can be re-used for like 3 grows. i just throw some bennies in it (zymes too) and a week or so later, it's good to go... i want to try outdoors sooooo bad...

ZEN MASTER said:

that cool dude, you might want to just feed them like a quarter strength or nutes, and remember coco specific nutes only. like i mentioned in my thread all i use is the canna A-B, and floralicious bloom(bloom booster by GEN HYDRO). but hey if just looks like a wash, cut your best stems off , clone 'em, and just start over. i also mention how i start my clones in coco, and i haven't lost one clone in two years. PEACE!!! -ZEN-

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i've been feeding them all with the same mix, i probably should mix something lighter for the smaller ones...

feeding canna coco a+b with advanced sensi cal/mg and voodoo. i use ro water that's at 6.5pH and <5ppm because my tap is 300ppm and fucking nasty chlorinated flouridated pharm'ed recycled piss. so because canna says to use tap water i first add 100ppm cal/mg and mix to get a consistent baseline every time.

then i add the a+b at about 600-650ppm right now. then i use 2tsp/gal voodoo - about 1/3 of an's stupidly high instructed dose (i'll definitely be trying out rhizotonic once i use up my voodoo). comes out to 700-750ppm then i raise the pH to just over 5.4 trying to get there with one shot of pH up.

i mix in 5gal buckets so after mixing i throw an air stone in there, aerate for an hour, recheck pH (its usually almost 5.5 by then), then feed.

i hand feed twice a day with a 500mL water bottle, 10 3gal pots from 0.5L-1.5L each feeding according to need and i feed 12hrs apart. running drain to waste, 5 gallons lasts me about 3-4 feedings with very little runoff...much more expensive than my dwc setups.

i don't mean to overestimate everyone's interest with this novel but it seems like you folks are having a much easier time with this and i don't get it.

i'd really like this shit to work because i'm tired of pH spikes everytime i try new things and cleaning airstones all the time. also, because horticultural grade H2O2 isn't available around here, a beneficially populated medium would be nice to combat the constant threat of root rot and other b.s. that comes with introducing organics into dwc.

i'm really glad this thread is here or i'd have probably ditched coco and went back to dwc already. eventually i'd like to keep two mothers at a time each in a 5gal bubble bucket and do all my clones & crops in coco. i think that'd be the best use of what i have on hand already anyways.

did u try flushing them yet?
try more run off as well and raise your ph to 5.8.

jberry said:

did u try flushing them yet?
try more run off as well and raise your ph to 5.8.

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i flushed them for a couple days before the switch to canna nutes. i ran literally gallons of straight ro water through each pot each day.

something crazy i didn't mention, the first time i fed with canna after flushing i gave them about 600ppm and the runoff was a 45ppm. i checked over and over to be sure. even now my runoff ppm's are at 300-400 after feeding at 750ppm! are they just eating that much?

after checking out each plant i can see that some of them have redirected growth to the least damaged growing tips while others are in kind of a stalemate with all their growing tips fried. i'll continue vegging the ones that are trying hardest and see if some of those new shoots will clone. otherwise, things will go a lot better with the clones i pick up next week now that i won't be using gh nutes.

...and i'll try upping the pH a bit. runoff swings from 6.3-6.9 without any logic that i can see so that's why i try to keep input pH low but i'm sure what's going in matters more than what's coming out.

thanks for the help.

Silky Shagsalot said:

i don't mean to come off like an ass, sometimes it just happens, lol. f.o.s. means full of shit. it's also a medical condition, LOL. i'm no expert, but i've been using coco for quite a while. sometimes questions get answered by folks who have only read on certain subjects. this is how confusion gets spread. it's best to go to a few sites and just read your ass off. there's loads of great info. out there on coco. it's been around for a while now, but seems to really be taking off recently. i go to a few sites and found people really liking coco. it is a bit pricey to get the non-block kind, but it can be re-used for like 3 grows. i just throw some bennies in it (zymes too) and a week or so later, it's good to go... i want to try outdoors sooooo bad...

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Hey,

i get my best results on coco that has been used 2 or 3 times. Nothing really wrong with the 1st time but bigger better yields on used coco. I re use my slabs 4 or 5 times have used some before for up to 8 times. i do use extra zyme when they are 2 or 3 times used.

Canna Coco with Canna Coco Nutes Full range, 2.5 wks from harvest. Bubblelicious




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