Cloning From Feminized Seeds - Is It Possible, Difficult or Impossible?

you know what im not gonna defend my logic its obvious you dont know enough about what your talking about. so im just gonna say fuck it not worth my time to even begin why you statement is bullshit but thats okay so you have a nice day okay?

alphawolf.hack said:

you know what im not gonna defend my logic its obvious you dont know enough about what your talking about. so im just gonna say fuck it not worth my time to even begin why you statement is bullshit but thats okay so you have a nice day okay?

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You're the one talking complete rubbish man, lots of reputable breeders "self" plants. Also true breeding or fully stabilised strains are ones in which all seeds are basically genetically identified because of a long process of selection and back crossing. When you breed these plants there is no genetic drift so the plants always are the same...yet no Hermies? So how is it a plant which using colloidal silver (ie no genetic or heriditary defects) pollenates itself that Hermies are more likely to occur?

Or just throw your toys out of the pram some more?

lol at the bickering... I'm a newbie, but I'm pretty certain if you take a clone from a female plant, it will be a female.... what the fuck is going on here? If you take a clone from a herm it will probably be a herm? What?

grr. you go ahead and keep all your selfed seeds i will continue to breed hermie pollen with the same stain f1 but not the same plant. i bet billions my fem. seeds would be more vigorous and less likely to herm.

pointswest said:

Cloning from feminized seeds is no different than cloning from plants grown from regular seeds. The cutting is an identical clone of the donor plant. There is no difference in the degree of difficulty of propagation.

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9 pages of drivel , pointswest has already given the correct information

alphawolf.hack said:

grr. you go ahead and keep all your selfed seeds i will continue to breed hermie pollen with the same stain f1 but not the same plant. i bet billions my fem. seeds would be more vigorous and less likely to herm.

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Why? Cos you say so? Have you any idea how genetics work? Selfing a plant actually provides a better degree of genetic material than "true breeding" strains, yet true breeding strains generally have zero Hermie problems.

Have you really any clue what you're talking about? Your correlations don't correlate

harrekin... i just started posting quotes from books that prove me right but thats copyright and i would rather you find the book on your own time .if you breed a plant with itslef it is okay. but there are better ways to breed and cube to ensure better quality seeds if you choose not to accept this its okay dont be mad i recommend re-reading the book marijuana botany by Robert Clark. if you stilll disagree than you must not be able correlate the information to your brain.

alphawolf.hack said:

harrekin... i just started posting quotes from books that prove me right but thats copyright and i would rather you find the book on your own time .if you breed a plant with itslef it is okay. but there are better ways to breed and cube to ensure better quality seeds if you choose not to accept this its okay dont be mad i recommend re-reading the book marijuana botany by Robert Clark. if you stilll disagree than you must not be able correlate the information to your brain.

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i have this book you speak of , it is pretty outdated now, you could use it as a paper weight

you seem to be suggesting that s1 generation plants (first generation of self pollinated) are likely to hemmy, if so that is a mistake, s1 generation are stable and uniform
s2 will show quite heavy tendencies towards the hemmy end
harrekin also makes a good point about IBL's .. blueberry, skunk1 etc etc

you have "the wrong end of the stick" so to speak alphawolf, this is one of those situations, where a little bit of knowledge can be dangerous
you should put that book away before its does you more harm

peace

alphawolf.hack said:

grr. you go ahead and keep all your selfed seeds i will continue to breed hermie pollen with the same stain f1 but not the same plant. i bet billions my fem. seeds would be more vigorous and less likely to herm.

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They may very well be more vigorous and less likely to have mutations, but herm has little to do with it. Even self seeding, herm will be dependant on genetics.

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first i gota laugh at all of this argueing lol lol lol second i gota laugh at skunkdoc for saying robert clark's book marijuana botony is outdated lol lol considering most books on cannabis botony are influenced from robert clarks books im sure the info will never be outdated, and im pretty sure if robert clark were to read this thread he would laugh his ass off, its amazing how some people can argue against people who have been studying this plant longer than most people have been growing, check out what shantibaba, or neville schoemaker have to say about fem seeds, those two breeders right there have bred most of the famous strains out there today lets see.... for shantibaba white widow comes to mind, or great white shark, or super silver haze, or el nino jus to name a few, when shantibaba left greenhouse seeds he lost the copyrights to those names but he still has the original genetics and u can get em from mr. nice seedbank under different names and in regular seed form, i think he calls the el nino... la nina, also incase no one has noticed greenhouse has not won a cup with super silver haze since shantibaba left, ok for neville first strain comes to mind is nevilles haze, how bout northern lights jus to name two, these two breeders have written numerous articules on feminized seeds, i think its pretty weird that there r sum seedbanks today that dont even have a male plant in their garden, and yes i have grown quite a few fem seeds until i got fed up with them, my room is light tight i do weekly checks to make sure, but yet the last time i ran fem seeds my thseeds burmese kush still hermied, none of the regular seeds in the same room did and even my fem tangerine dream didnt herm, and its not only me there are alota growers who will tell u about having fem seeds herm when some other fem seeds didnt, sum fem seeds might come out all female and sum will come out hermie, its basic science not every fem seed will be 100% female, im not gonna go into it any futher than that there are plenty of articules written on this subject and all the info can be found, my answer is from experince with fem seeds, sum were all female no herms but sum did herm out

and to answer the question that started this thread........yes u can clone from a feminized seed, ive done it quite a few times thas how i kept my dutch passions mekong high

Just to throw in my 2 cents worth. I grew out 3 violator kush once from fem seed and one hermied just at the end. (got 3 tiny, immature seeds out of 4oz of dried bud in that plant, about 6 oz each out of the other 2). I was sure it was stress due to a loft grow in winter that went badly. (wild teperature swings and a couple of timer problems). Unfortunately the one that hermied was the one I had taken clones when in veg but the clones grew out fine.

I have been doing 12/12 from seed for about 10 years now. Why has nobody told me I was growing hermies this whole time? God damn invisible seeds in my bud

To be fair I have had 2 cases of hermies in that time, but I don't class that as "always". Always used fem seeds except for my first grow (bagseed) and my current where I am using auto fem (first and last time using auto or greenhouse seeds).

MalteseGrower said:

I have been doing 12/12 from seed for about 10 years now. Why has nobody told me I was growing hermies this whole time? God damn invisible seeds in my bud

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First, LMAO
Second, I was thinking the same damn thing. I just started with forced bloom from seed and I haven't had (or ever heard of that problem), and i did a shitload of research.
Third, What kinda nutes do you use and on what sched?
Thanks

Rooted clone gets topped to start new clone and goes str8 into 12/12 and I use potting compost with no nutes. That's my perpetual. Small harvest every two weeks.

MalteseGrower said:

Rooted clone gets topped to start new clone and goes str8 into 12/12 and I use potting compost with no nutes. That's my perpetual. Small harvest every two weeks.

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This is exactly what I just started. Six in, six out, every two weeks, a total of 24 plants in the tent at all times. My first couple batches will be from seed until I have viable mothers from all the strains I want to grow, and I have a bubbler on the way for the clones.

It'll be Hempy style, 100% perlite (so I can keep reusing it).

-spek

nitro20% said:

so then i read that bananna peels and seeds in a jar produces the active things/stuff to feminize. he wrote that out of the many times hes done this he has had nothing but female from reg. seeds and was going to try it on merphie seeds to see if it would hold off the transfomation due to the right(wrong) conditions. now this is somthing that if you where a seed bank would not want to tell anyone,right?thing about it. dont know if any of you guy have argued (just kiddin) any information out of any of these forums that will help. but im gonna try it.i need to know for myself.oh seeins i lost the best thing that i every tasted, any of you got info on the ICE seed.

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I got a link directly to breeder, I don't get involved in these heated threads lol I got a link on real ice its crossed with an amazing blueberry pheno (blueIce)

I have bin growing for a while now and i to also ordered fem seeds and was never successful in cloning off that seed.I have bin cloning for quit a while till i bought fem seeds. i ordered reg seeds to see if thats my problem.

mushu93 said:

Top of the morning to you

We have ordered some feminized seeds, Tangerine Dream to be specific.
And we would like to clone at least one of them. But a reputable source has shared his knowledge telling us that it is harder to near impossible to clone using feminized seeds.

So our question is has anyone else tried cloneing using feminized seeds? What were your results? Has anyone read anything on this subject? or know anything? We are open to your comments or your opinions, please let us know what you have to say on this subject.

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I have bin growing for a while now and i to also ordered fem seeds and was never successful in cloning off that seed.I have bin cloning for quit a while till i bought fem seeds. i ordered reg seeds to see if thats my problem.