Cann's Organic No-Till Garden

Cann

Cann

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I'm on it...gimme a few and i'll have the pics up. Lets pray to god a mod sees it and deems it sticky worthy. that first post has a lot of good info...looks like some of the veganics BS stickies. perhaps that will be sufficient in itself...lol
 
Cann

Cann

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Transplanted yesterday. Wanted to show something that I get often, not really sure what it is but I have a hypothesis..

When I go to transplant and I flip the plant upside down and remove the clear cup, there is often a grey dusty looking powder covering part of the rootball. Now, grey dusty powder sounds like bad news in a garden (downy mildew, botrytis, etc.) but I think this might be something else...

Is is possible that mycorrhizae are fruiting and sporulating and that is what I am seeing? If you look closely, the color on the roots is virtually identical to the color of the mycorrhizae powder I use...I'm very curious. In the 3rd picture you can see a small shot glass full of mycorrhizae powder. The rootballs pictured almost look as if I have sprinkled them with mycos already...I have not.

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Anyone else get this/seen this before?
 
Cann

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Okay this one has really got me. I was checking out a plant that I had in the corner the other day, and I found this on it.

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It looks like there is some sort of growth forming on the tip of the stem where the individual leaf spears connect (sorry I don't know botany terms...). At first I though it was an insect cocoon or something crazy, but I am unsure. I did release some mantids about a month ago, but they were all tiny and wouldn't have the capacity to make something like this by now. wtf am i seeing????? should i crack it open? my curious mind tells me to leave it and see what happens...but I don't want to leave it if it is harming the plant somehow.

anyone ever seen this either? lol. or do I just have a crazy garden...
 
Cann

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Overall everything else is groovy. Heres what the veg room looks like now

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BO x NL5/Haze
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And of course the flower room. Got the 45gal no-till smartpot rockin the other day, full of 1/2 homemade soil and 1/2 recycled 707. Permafrost and two Plushberries occupying it at the moment.

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3lbs of micro clover...got here today. bout to go sow some right now.
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Sorry for the onslaught of pics :bigjoint:
 
Rrog

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45 gallon Smarts? Sweet! I have my buddy doing a small grow with two 15's. I thought I was doing well with 7's, but no-till likes a bigger container

I have the same clover.

Everything looks so great there Cann! Fun to see the pics. I'm drywalling up my old little door under the stairs for my old grow room, so while I'm dismantling, it's great to see pics of growing.

That growth under the leaf looks interesting!
 
Rising Moon

Rising Moon

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It's possible the root colors you are noticing is because of the clear cups. The bottoms will be more sheltered from light, and therefore will be whiter, also the myco's are busy doing thier thing, adding to what you are seeing.

The other thing for sure looks like a preying mantis cocoon. I'd leave it and see what comes out!

Could be aliens in search of organic DANK!
 
headtreep

headtreep

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Jah bro that shit all looks fuckin bomb. Not to sound like a snob but you are prob one of the only people in Cali that I'd trade my nugs with. Water weed sucks. Keep up the good DANK man!
 
Cann

Cann

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yeah I feel you lol...the folks who end up with my medicine have no idea what they are getting their hands on. if they only knew...

i do get an absurd amount of comments about smell and taste though - probably because everything else around here is flavorless/tastes harsh etc. poorly cured chemmy nugs that were probably sprayed at some point...mmmmm

if only people were willing to pay more for true medicine...its a shame that all of this gets lumped in with the chem stuff and there is no market for clean organic flowers. need to go back to the PNW...lol.
 
headtreep

headtreep

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I forgot to mention I don't know what that cocoon thing is but I do know your roots are fine. I've had plants that looked like that. Don't sweat it man.
 
SpliffAndMyLady

SpliffAndMyLady

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Everything is looking great Cann. That looks like a mantis cocoon to me, I was wondering where you buy your mycorrhizae from?
 
Cann

Cann

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currently I am using the last of a bag of roots organics' oregonism..not bad stuff, but super expensive. I am going to buy bioag's VAM endo mix when I run out of the oregonism..the VAM endo mix has way more propagules/gm - so even though the price is similar, you are getting a lot more bang for your buck so to speak.
 
foreverflyhi

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Although i dont like cann personally, his methods are not garbage and is doing the exact opposite of "mocking" the food chain, hes making it live and passing it on in a indoor enviroment. Great job cann.
 
Cann

Cann

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lol may have fed the trolls a little bit too much last night...

anyways, on with the program:

soaking barley seed tea (sometimes I bubble if I'm feeling up to it...works either way)
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Snafu1236

Snafu1236

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Just caught up a little bit.

You got a mantis coccoon there. DO NOT KILL IT! Pretty awesome stuff, as you are truly a Soil Web gardener and the cocoon should be looked upon as a compliment to your method.

The roots? Mixture of the dried up runoff combined with water and mycos in a small container. NO worries here mate, I see that often.

Your plants and garden look awesome, by the way.

-Snafu
 
Cann

Cann

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Snafu

The barley seed tea is all about enzymes. the same reason I use young coconut h2o. when a seed germinates, the contents of the seed (endosperm) provide everything the young plant needs for life. we are effectively harvesting the goodies that the endosperm creates and applying it to our plants. enzymes are catalysts that increase the speed of reactions by insane amounts (sometimes up to 1000000x faster than the reaction with no enzyme) - basically they help facilitate a bunch of interactions that are going on with your plant, therefore increasing overall health/speed of growth. you've probably seen pictures around here of "praying" leaves...or the so called "jesus effect" (lol) - I get that reaction the most when I apply a barley seed tea.


Here is how:

Originally Posted by ClackamasCootz

Try this:

1/4 cup Barley seeds (not pearled barley from Safeway)

Sprout like you would any seed like Alfalfa, Mung beans, etc.

Once they're sprouted (about 2 days) add to 1 gallon of water and let that sit for 3 or 4 days and it will turn cloudy. Strain and mix 2 cups of this 'tea' to 14 cups of water = 1 gallon.

Let me know what you think. This works equally well using alfalfa, wheat, oat, etc. seeds.

"Enzymes"

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A quick note on soaking seeds, again from cootz

"Here's why you wouldn't want to soak any seed (only) and try to use the soaking water: many seeds are encoded with enzymes on the hull's exterior and the immediate interior. These enzymes prevent germination unless the conditions are right, i.e. they're growth inhibitors. Not Plant Growth Regulators but out and out inhibitors.

Once a seed germinates, the developing endosperm creates other enzymes that neutralize the inhibitors, converting them into a food source for the emerging tap-root."
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a.k.a. you want to discard the soak water and rinse thoroughly before you germinate and refill the vessel with h2o..or else you will be doing the opposite of what we want.

The lazy mans option for enzymes is to use young coconut h2o. it is much more expensive than barley (both are still way cheaper than bottled nutes!) but contains many similar goodies.

Here is another past quote from ClackamasCootz, RE: young coconut water

"The big ones are Cytokinins, Gibberellins (GAs), Enzymes (in particular amylase, arylsulphatase, β-glucosidase, cellulase, chitinase, dehydrogenase, phosphatase, protease, and urease), Indole-3-Acetic Acid (IAA)......

Young coconuts are embryos and the water will begin to adhere to the inside of the shell and solidifies forming coconut meat or whatever it's called.You can expect to get around 12 oz. in a fresh one shown in the original post. Ripe coconuts will contain very little water and much lower benefits because they're now contained in this seed's endosperm (coconut meat).

Coconuts are one of the richest sources of Cytokinins which accelerates cell division in the plant which differs from how PGRs function.

HTH

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Try it on one plant in your garden and check out the reaction...you'll be surprised.

 
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