Cannabinoid Hyperemesis Syndrome

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    TimInVa

    TimInVa New Member


    Dr Quiz - Note that I asked for basic non-specific bio info in my post, that's why people are providing first name, age, etc. This thread has taken on a life of its own without my help.

    Looks like a lot of people have found this thread through a Google search under Cannabis Hyperemesis. That's how I found it, and as a fellow sufferer I'm glad they found it and I'm happy to help in any way I can.

    No, this sin't me posting under different names. Ask the moderator to check IP addresses if you think that's the case.

    Have a little compassion for people who are suffering from this! We are all pot lovers here just searching for answers.

    Peace.

    Tim in Virginia
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    qwizoking

    qwizoking Well-Known Member

    Indeed it has.. I cannot verify that there are many of you but I do hope y'all find the answers your searching for. There isn't a known pathway or mode of action and I have my doubts of its existence but I have been wrong before.... good luck
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    MaryAnne123

    MaryAnne123 New Member

    I had soooo many tests done it's ridiculous! Dr whoever you are... Go back to school! Believe it our not! We are the ones going through this battle not you. I have had my life ripped apart for the past 3 years tryi g to figure out what's wrong with me. I smoked weed thinking it was helping but when I stopped I INSTANTLY felt a difference. It's only been 2 days since I smoked. And I feel like a new person. I have been in and out of the hospital numerous times. With no answers. Call it whatever you want WEED poisoned me for the last 3 years and I am done with it. Your a idiot!!!

    Sincerely,
    MaryAnne
    34/F/Washington State
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    qwizoking

    qwizoking Well-Known Member

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    ItsOkayDontBelieveMe

    ItsOkayDontBelieveMe New Member

    Theres nothing to laugh about here.

    I feel your pain Marry Anne, and you have my very sincere sympathies.

    I am glad you are feeling better, I didnt (and didnt want to) believe it myself.

    I havent smoked since 6 days ago.

    Feeling great, but still not completely recovered because I was in REALLY bad shape. But im getting there! And feeling better each day, slowly being able to eat more. Those that posted on here... please keep us updated, I am very interested in how everyone progresses.

    25/m/NYC
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    ItsOkayDontBelieveMe

    ItsOkayDontBelieveMe New Member

    Uhm, WHAT?! Not true by any means of the imagination. The endocannabinoid system has been studied since the 60's. As I mentioned already, my specialization while at University was Neuroscience, and I learned all about the endocannabinoid system in neuroscience classes back in 2007-2008 as they are important retrograde transmitters in the brain and in other parts of the body. We have known about them for decades now, and have been studying them. We have a long way to go in fully understanding them, but that can be said about practically any science.

    Lets please, not talk out of our asses here, okay?
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    MaryAnne123

    MaryAnne123 New Member

    I'm very happy to hear your doing better. I wish my weed smoking wasn't what was making me sick but since I stopped I feel better. So all signs point to the weed. Ignorant people say ignorant things. People can laugh and not believe. I don't believe a "doctor" would be on here telling people that this is not true. He's no doctor. Doesn't bother me. As long as I'm not sick I'm good. Hope you bounce back soon. I'm not eating much yet but it will come. Good luck. :)
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    saildude

    saildude New Member

    My diagnosis was made in March 2013 and I have now been without symptoms for a little over 6 months after stopping smoking. I am 53 now and have been smoking daily for 35 years. 10 years ago I had some strange sensations like pressure and buzzing in my head, hard to explain. Had brain MRI's and other tests but they came up with nothing. Unfortunately it is a real illness. I have had 6 recurring episodes over the last 2 years lasting from 7 to 14 days approximately 4 to 6 months apart. The symptoms are extreme nausea and vomiting. Retching really since once my stomach emptied there was nothing left. I usually lose between 15 and 20 pounds per episode with my kidneys failing one time. This last episode they admitted me for 3 days with IV cancer anti nausea medicine and IV fluids to keep my kidneys from failing again. I could finally pee enough for them to test my urine and see I smoked pot. This is when they told me it could possibly be the cause.

    When I was released I felt much better and the symptoms were gone. That night I smoked again and the next morning the symptoms kicked in again for 4 more days. I guess it confirms what they suspect may be going on though my age and symptoms aren't an exact match with what I have read online. I discovered before reading about the syndrome that a hot shower turned the symptoms off like turning off a switch. One of the main indicators of the syndrome if you can believe is compulsive taking of hot showers. The hot showers did stop symptoms for a few minutes but they returned after leaving shower.



    I always smoked in the mornings before work and almost every day around 10:30 or so I would have a wave of nausea hit for just a couple minutes. I always thought it was my high blood pressure medication causing it but since I quit smoking it hasn't recurred.

    I never felt bad immediately after smoking so never made the connection. It would usually strike very early in the morning waking me up or shortly after waking.

    As a daily smoker I hope to in the near future try to smoke again only I will not smoke high THC weed and will try only a couple times to see the effect. The docs told me that they "guess" a component of cannabis builds up in the fat in the brain of a genetically susceptible person over time. Relief comes when you are so sick you can't smoke. I prolonged my bouts with this because i would smoke when i felt better. The connection wasn't made because the return of symptoms happened later. My suggestion to those with symptoms as I described is to first cut back and not smoke high THC pot.

    Hope this can help someone
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    Aussie D

    Aussie D New Member

    Hello, CHS is real. I was involved in the medical study here in Australia and as a lover of pot I was disappointed but very releaved that I was not dying. I feel for you but I can tell you 100% that this is what your problem is. For some time I was in denial as I deep down did not want to believe i had to give pot away as I had been a smoker for 20 years. I had many emergency visits over many years to become rehydrated and was given strong chemo drugs to try and stop the vomiting. The compulsion to have hot showers was uncontrollable when I felt ill. Someone saw a story in a newspaper titled" Pot can turn your gut" . Dr Allen a local General Practitioner not to far away from me was onto it. I had lost up to 15kg and had worried my family beyond belief.
    As for some of the other pot lovers responses to your post . They are ignoramouses! If it does not affect them then good for them!
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    TimInVa

    TimInVa New Member

    Aussie D -

    I would very much like to correspond with you about this. I am a former journalist, still freelance a bit, and I am gathering stories of experiences with CHS for a possible article, not for a medical journal, just a layman's view of all this.

    If you could email me I have created an email account for this, TimInVirginia(at)aol(dot)com.

    Many thanks, hope to hear from you.

    Tim in Virginia

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    cateyes87

    cateyes87 New Member

    How long did it take for you to put weight back on?
    I've lost 20 lbs, I'm at 95lbs right now, it's horrible.
    I still have stomach acid it seems due to hardly eating any veggies/fruits for the past year, no joke, but I'm just assuming. I'm putting myself on a raw diet starting today. It also seems like I'm getting my appetite back slightly.
    I still average 3-4 hours of sleep a night, even with prescription sleeping pills so forget melatonin. My sleeping habits are so random though so I guess that's justified?
    I wake up totally soaked too.

    I am also experiencing sort of loose bowels, not diarrhea, but it seems that the food is not digesting because I see pieces of it in my stools. Anyone else experienced this? Does this subside? I have read that this is one symptom but I'm not sure whether I should be worried. An addiction counselor told me to take Imodium because it seems like she knew this would happen, however, I'd like others opinion on this.
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    Aussie D

    Aussie D New Member

    Hi, weight came back fairly quickly and was told by Dr Allen (the man who got CHS into world wide medical journals) that i may get heavier than I'd ever been due to increased appetite. This did not faze me as I was on the bones of my arse at 5'10 and 125lb from 167lb. I ate small portions more often till my appetite returned and yes my bowel did become loose for a while.My whole system seemed to be in shock becoming thc free. It took about 2 /3 weeks to be completely out of my system being tested every week.In a couple of weeks I loved food again and weight came back. CHS was also nicknamed marijuana morning sickness so in answer to your question I was woken nauseated most mornings sometimes being sick with undigested food from previous nights dinner , I don't remember seeing in stools. I had what seemed like a build up over 2 months slowly feeling sicker, always smoking more and more so as I thought to maybe stimulate appetite and get me through day. With in 3 months I was eating next to nothing and almost could not stand sight of food. Not long after that I would hit the wall! Not being able to hold down water and needing to be hospitalized to curb nausea and be rehydrated. I would be discharged and the cycle would begin again. Your symptoms a little different but soon you will know the cause , stick with it. Aussie D.
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    Aussie D

    Aussie D New Member

    Oh yes the night sweats are another symptom as the doc says that the hypothalamus gland is affected. This gland in your brain controls your digestion and also your temperature. Pretty obviously it's the pot. Aussie D
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    cateyes87

    cateyes87 New Member

    Thanks for all the info and the positive vibes AussieD! I'm happy you got yourself out of it.
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    1itsme

    1itsme Well-Known Member

    is this whole thread 1 person talking to themselves on a bunch of new accounts?
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    cateyes87

    cateyes87 New Member


    Paranoid much? ;) thought so. gtfo.
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    MaryAnne123

    MaryAnne123 New Member

    Wish I could slap the shit out of 1itsme! Your such a idiot.
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    saildude

    saildude New Member

    Really this thread is for us seeking answers to something that is making us sick. Trolls always stick their noses in just to stir up shit.

    I'm struck by the difference in symptoms. I wonder how much age has to do with it. My appetite was always good except when I was sick. My week to 10 day ordeals would strike suddenly with vomiting and dry heaves that continued unabated. The nausea was the worst, it was continuous until I was exhausted or drugged myself so as to sleep (phenegran pills and suppositories). When my symptoms abated my appetite returned and I could smoke again without noticeable effects. Besides several minute long bought of nausea in the mornings a couple times a week symptoms were gone until in 4 to 6 months when they hit full force and I was again laid up with 15 to 20 pound weight loss from not eating for days on end.

    When I was diagnosed and quit smoking I felt like I could eat the world, and did. I have put on 30 pounds. I am now over the 6 month mark without symptoms.

    With time I hope your body can find its equilibrium again. It affects our brain and since we are all different it is no surprise it's symptoms aren't the same. Hang in there and try to not over compensate. Give your body time to heal on its own is my advice.
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    Aussie D

    Aussie D New Member

    No it's not Otis. Geeee, ! 1itsme 730 posts ay, you need to find some friends and maybe get a life why your at it. Or maybe just keep your nose out if not interested in helping out fellow ravers.!
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    Lo Budget

    Lo Budget Active Member

    I read most, albeit not all of this thread and I'm wondering if tinctures, oils or edibles also trigger these reactions? I probably just missed it.
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