Blimburn AK, slow upward growth? Or am I worrying for nothing?

bf80255

bf80255

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OldSchoolBud said:
Obviously trolling, right? Personally, I couldn’t think of any reason for running auto’s indoors, especially for a new and learning grower, so I posed the question.



And instead of answering, you just call me a troll because you grow autos and I couldn’t think of a reason to do so. Thanks for the name calling, and I really don’t appreciate being called a troll. Do you like to call everyone names that don’t agree with you 100%?



And here ^, we have an answer to my original question. A valid reason to grow auto’s indoors that I hadn’t thought of. You can have auto’s going while your normal seeds are vegging, and get an early harvest soon after switching your normal seeds over to flowering.

I hadn’t thought of this, and it’s exactly the kind of information that I was asking for. A valid reason to grow auto’s indoors. Thanks for the response, THCbreeder.

In fact, that's such a novel and good idea, that I may consider doing so myself. Still annoys me that I'm called a troll because I couldn't think of a good reason to grow auto's indoors and could only think of disadvantages. I tried to be as helpful as possible and listed the downsides as I saw them, and asked if anyone had any advantages that I hadn't considered. THCbreeder answered with an advantage to growing autos that I hadn't considered, while bf80255 just called me a troll. SMH
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well it was mainly in your approach, rather than say " hey guys why do people grow autoflowers indoors? ive never seen much reason to, instead of

"I mean, you've handicapped yourself with a plant that is on a time limit, so if everything doesn't go exactly as planned, you have no time to recover from mistakes. You will get less yield. And you've got a plant crossed with Ruderelis that has little to no THC. I can't see the reason to do this indoors, only outdoors where you need to harvest quickly. You compromise and give up having control of when it flowers and finishes, get a smaller yield, and less potency to gain speed outdoors.....but indoors, you control the speed of finishing by controlling the light.....so why? I'm really curious, it's all cons and no pros that I can think of.....unless you are growing outdoors, then those compromises may be worth it."

you came on spouting your "knowledge" of autoflowers in an inflammatory manner much the same way a "troll" does so I apologize for mistaking your intentions however in the future youll find nicer replies if you ask and allow time for a response before spreading negativity and misinformation in your posts.

1.your not handicapped because autos usually bulldoze past photos in the seedling stage from my experience
and under 18 hours and up they can be sexed at 14 days with some strains, allowing you to avoid wasting time and resources on males. (huge benefit if space is tight like when breeding)

2.if everything doesnt go exactly as planned with any plant your yields will obviouslyy not be optimal.

3.crossed to ruderalis and then selectively inbred for generations with an emphasis on THC production then crossed again and again to high potency photos and again selectively inbred with the same goals.

4.you can start indoors under 24 hour light and get in an early season starting around March because theyll be nice sized and can finish off well under the power of the sun.

you can grow autos while photos veg

they are almost dummy proof and you dont have to worry about light leaks or if you bring plants in at night for extra light hours or protection from the elements the light swing wont effect them

use your imagination autos are an awesome tool and I swear to you they are so much easier to grow than photos, the main thing for me is pests dont ever have time to be established with a 60-90 day lifespan

positive vibes bruthah!
 
OldSchoolBud

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bf80255 said:
well it was mainly in your approach, rather than say " hey guys why do people grow autoflowers indoors? ive never seen much reason to, instead of

"I mean, you've handicapped yourself with a plant that is on a time limit, so if everything doesn't go exactly as planned, you have no time to recover from mistakes. You will get less yield. And you've got a plant crossed with Ruderelis that has little to no THC. I can't see the reason to do this indoors, only outdoors where you need to harvest quickly. You compromise and give up having control of when it flowers and finishes, get a smaller yield, and less potency to gain speed outdoors.....but indoors, you control the speed of finishing by controlling the light.....so why? I'm really curious, it's all cons and no pros that I can think of.....unless you are growing outdoors, then those compromises may be worth it."

you came on spouting your "knowledge" of autoflowers in an inflammatory manner much the same way a "troll" does so I apologize for mistaking your intentions however in the future youll find nicer replies if you ask and allow time for a response before spreading negativity and misinformation in your posts.

1.your not handicapped because autos usually bulldoze past photos in the seedling stage from my experience
and under 18 hours and up they can be sexed at 14 days with some strains, allowing you to avoid wasting time and resources on males. (huge benefit if space is tight like when breeding)

2.if everything doesnt go exactly as planned with any plant your yields will obviouslyy not be optimal. Isn't that exactly why I said they weren't ideal for a new grower? Until you get some experience, things rarely go as planned. When you say it it is "obvious" but when I say it, I am being a troll?

3.crossed to ruderalis and then selectively inbred for generations with an emphasis on THC production then crossed again and again to high potency photos and again selectively inbred with the same goals. It just seems that say an AK47 for example, with no ruderalis would be more potent than one crossed with it....but I'm just being logical, and maybe I'm wrong. And I have no clue how many times an auto has been backcrossed, haven't seen any breeder mentioning it. I really have no clue, it was just my assumption that a pure strain would be more potent than the same strain crossed with ruderalis.

4.you can start indoors under 24 hour light and get in an early season starting around March because theyll be nice sized and can finish off well under the power of the sun. I said this......that auto's made sense to me outdoors, just not indoors.....but I did ask if anyone knew a reason to grow indoors that I hadn't thought of, and THCbreeder answered with a very good point that I hadn't considered, without calling me a troll in the process.

you can grow autos while photos veg

they are almost dummy proof and you dont have to worry about light leaks or if you bring plants in at night for extra light hours or protection from the elements the light swing wont effect them I still think they are rather unforgiving if you are new and learning how to grow, but we can disagree without name calling. New growers seem to have a hard time learning the proper amount of watering, and the proper amount of nutrients.....and if you aren't experienced, autos don't give you much time to recover from mistakes.

use your imagination autos are an awesome tool and I swear to you they are so much easier to grow than photos, the main thing for me is pests dont ever have time to be established with a 60-90 day lifespan

positive vibes bruthah!
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Please expand your quote to see my replies. I put them in bold to differentiate from your post.

I tried to phrase the question nicely, and gave my reasons for asking, and voiced my concerns over learning to grow with auto's if you were a new grower, as I knew them. Please excuse me for trying to help. It won't happen again. I now know that if my opinion differs from yours, that I am a troll....so I will refrain from attempting to help anyone in the future, or spouting any of my "knowledge".

I'm kinda old, and the last time I participated in a MJ forum was on Overgrow and Cannabis World and we had a much more laid back atmosphere. I see that isn't the case here. My bad....wont happen again.
 
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tekdc911

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OldSchoolBud said:
Please expand your quote to see my replies. I put them in bold to differentiate from your post.

I tried to phrase the question nicely, and gave my reasons for asking, and voiced my concerns over learning to grow with auto's if you were a new grower, as I knew them. Please excuse me for trying to help. It won't happen again. I now know that if my opinion differs from yours, that I am a troll....so I will refrain from attempting to help anyone in the future, or spouting any of my "knowledge".

I'm kinda old, and the last time I participated in a MJ forum was on Overgrow and Cannabis World and we had a much more laid back atmosphere. I see that isn't the case here. My bad....wont happen again.
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i clicked and expanded and read the first part until i found a little troll shit on my shoe..............

BF said " 2.if everything doesnt go exactly as planned with any plant your yields will obviouslyy not be optimal."

notice the bold text ? that tiny word makes that sentence apply to all plants that can be grown indoors or out
 
tekdc911

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whats doesnt make sense to me is why someone would grow an auto outdoors ...... poor little auto getting shoved out in the cruel world and being forced to live in the dark for part of its short life
 
OldSchoolBud

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tekdc911 said:
i clicked and expanded and read the first part until i found a little troll shit on my shoe..............

BF said " 2.if everything doesnt go exactly as planned with any plant your yields will obviouslyy not be optimal."

notice the bold text ? that tiny word makes that sentence apply to all plants that can be grown indoors or out
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Ok....then I would hence forth and forever encourage all newbies just starting out and learning to grow, to use autos. Makes perfect sense to me, better be on your game and make no mistakes, there won't be time to correct them. They are the perfect learning tool. And to indicate anything other than that is just trolling. End of conversation.

Nice place you guys got here. Were you like this before you started smoking autos?
 
Pauly420

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William west said:
Yeah I know I was talking about your lil ak,. About week four she'll take off like a rocket. I've been nuteing all my girls since they poped. One thing I've noticed about autos is that they seem to take any ferts I throw at em. And they flourish. Good luck bud and keep me posted.
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She grew a half Inch last night!!! Some of my first stems appear to be purple from early stress, and there seems to be purple stalk up to where the first two round leaves are at. (The first two that pop from the seed, not sure what those are called). But I also noticed a small hole in one of my first 5finger leaves :(. Could this be just from water droplets I left on the leaf after watering? Checked with the dope scope and didn't see any pests.
Pics to follow, sorry my phone is being jacked
 
tekdc911

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OldSchoolBud said:
Ok....then I would hence forth and forever encourage all newbies just starting out and learning to grow, to use autos. Makes perfect sense to me, better be on your game and make no mistakes, there won't be time to correct them. They are the perfect learning tool. And to indicate anything other than that is just trolling. End of conversation.

Nice place you guys got here. Were you like this before you started smoking autos?
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how are you not understanding ........ auto's are MORE forgiving than photo's ....... ive seen noob's pull oz's from fucked up grow's .... , if you want to pull more then you have to be on your game , just eliminating the hermi factor from a light leak or inconsistent lighting schedule is half the battle for a noob

and BTW alot of auto's hit you harder and faster then photo's due to the higher CBD that most of them have ......... most of the time people forget about that they are worried about the thc being a percent or two lower then a photo ...... that is very little when dealing with THC .... but when dealing with CBD something just 1-2% higher is a drastic change ....... but what do i know .....

how many auto's have you grown out ?
 
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William west

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Pauly420 said:
She grew a half Inch last night!!! Some of my first stems appear to be purple from early stress, and there seems to be purple stalk up to where the first two round leaves are at. (The first two that pop from the seed, not sure what those are called). But I also noticed a small hole in one of my first 5finger leaves :(. Could this be just from water droplets I left on the leaf after watering? Checked with the dope scope and didn't see any pests.
Pics to follow, sorry my phone is being jacked
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Hey bro! She looks good pauly! Hey don't worry about lil small holes in ahead or two every now and then. These autos are really resilient to just about any kind of stress we dumb monkeys can put em through. Your girl is showing a lot of her ruderalis traits. I grew some maxi gom that looked just like her. Crazy ass three prongs everywhere. Deep ass green color too. What kind of water are you giving that special lil lady? I give mine tap water but I do boil off the chloramine in it as it just won't all evaporate if left out in the open in a 24 hour period. Now that's one thing that can kill your girls or really stunt their growth is giving them water straight from the tap. That's speaking from my own personal experience and not just generalizing. People say a lot of different shit about H2O and cannabis but these autos were made specifically for austere conditions. Just don't over think things when it comes to autos. You can get big yields if nurtured properly but if a man were to just throw a seed in some dirt and walk away for 8-10 weeks when he came back he'd find a decently proportioned chick waiting on him. These things were bred to survive newbies and whatever. I've been a gorilla grower of regs outside for about 15 years and they always give you problems. So just try not to over think it because you'll just drive yourself insane and keep me posted. I'm attaching a pic of my four week old AK from blimburn. They look totally different but it's the same strain.
 
William west

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Oh yeah and that hole is nothing to be worried about. It's good to spray your leaves with a foliar mix. I use a mix of liquid karma and thrive alive B-1 green. It's awesome to use on the foliage. It gives the plants a boost and helps with their vascular system.
 

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William west said:
Oh yeah and that hole is nothing to be worried about. It's good to spray your leaves with a foliar mix. I use a mix of liquid karma and thrive alive B-1 green. It's awesome to use on the foliage. It gives the plants a boost and helps with their vascular system.
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So I've been using tap water, at the beginning I didn't realize the importance of letting the chlorine evaporate off so I used tap water straight away, phed around 6.5. Now I allow the water to sit out for 12-24 hours. I understand that this little girl is "special". I'm still gonna grow her out and see what happens while I whait for my bbxww/strawberrychcke to pop outta the dirt/grow big and healthy!
 
bf80255

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OldSchoolBud said:
Please expand your quote to see my replies. I put them in bold to differentiate from your post.

I tried to phrase the question nicely, and gave my reasons for asking, and voiced my concerns over learning to grow with auto's if you were a new grower, as I knew them. Please excuse me for trying to help. It won't happen again. I now know that if my opinion differs from yours, that I am a troll....so I will refrain from attempting to help anyone in the future, or spouting any of my "knowledge".

I'm kinda old, and the last time I participated in a MJ forum was on Overgrow and Cannabis World and we had a much more laid back atmosphere. I see that isn't the case here. My bad....wont happen again.
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hey man, again im sorry if I come on kind of aggressive but youve got to have a thick skin these days on the forums 50% of users are trolls lmao
so again not my intention to offend.
dont let the negativity beat you down, still plenty of love on the boards :D

like i said though, if your a noob yields are going to be crappy nyways and autos are a long way ahead of where they were 10 or 15 years ago.

the way inheritance works it would really only take 1 or 2 back crosses to bring the potency up to about equal with photo strains. I smoke autos almost exclusively and im not just saying so when I say they get me just as high as any photo ive ever tried, if you want a more intense high just take shrooms
 
bf80255

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tekdc911 said:
whats doesnt make sense to me is why someone would grow an auto outdoors ...... poor little auto getting shoved out in the cruel world and being forced to live in the dark for part of its short life
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hahaha pinkie is half outdoor!! lol
the reason being is that in places like here in california an auto can finish with some pretty nice nuggage under regular sunlight hours like a photo but if you veg on 18 or 24 for the first -30-40 days youll have a nice sized plant that can put out really nice yields and its damn near free under the sun.
 
Pauly420

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William west said:
Oh yeah and that hole is nothing to be worried about. It's good to spray your leaves with a foliar mix. I use a mix of liquid karma and thrive alive B-1 green. It's awesome to use on the foliage. It gives the plants a boost and helps with their vascular system.
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Also thanks for the encouragement man! Have you ever taken a dud or a slow grower to full maturity? Right now, I will be happy with her reaching full maturity and getting anything off of her. When the stem looks cracked is that from widening and growth? It seems where those two round leaves at the bottom of the stem are that the top part of the stem was stressed and now that its grown and gotten wider it almost look like it tore the stress parts during growth. And now there is what appears to be healthy green in the middle and a drying purple part on top.
 
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