Anyone hit those biotches with brown sugar and molasses during flower?

Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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Olive Drab Green said:
Langbeinite.

Also, there is a huge difference between applying dry mineral sulfur that will leach sulfuric acid in smaller, buffered, controlled amounts and applying industrial sulfuric acid meant for cars directly to a plant. You guys are like fiends, man. Scrounging, using industrial chemicals when the normal thing to use is already cheap.
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Just stop ...... Fuck! First you got the type of acid wrong, then you tried to cover your ass by pulling up useless MDS info, and spouting more lies, then you talk about the need to remove it from batteries, that was a huge laugh, thank you! And now what, you think all of the other ph down acids used are made in mom's kitchen and not a industrial setting .... wow, you do like to talk huh lol. Well at least you learned some stuff and I guess that's important :). Can you tell me how powdered sulphur is buffered?
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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sidewing said:
not trying to argue with you. just stating facts. sucanat is not the same thing as cane sugar. its dehydrated molasses.. i dont need to convince anyone.. just offering some knowledge ive gained from years of trials, errors, and experience... which is why i simply brought up the fact from my experience it works equally as well (better even) and is much easier to clean/handle than the thick syrup that is molasses.
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REALLY?


Sucanat (a contraction of "Sucre de canne naturel") is a brand name for a variety of whole cane sugar that was introduced by Pronatec in 1978. Unlike refined and processed white cane sugar and brown cane sugar, but similar to panela and muscovado, Sucanat retains its molasses content.



Not arguing, just clarifying .....
 
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sidewing

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I guess I'm missing your point.. You pretty much just shared what I stated.. No point in going around with this. Good day.
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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sidewing said:
I guess I'm missing your point.. You pretty much just shared what I stated.. No point in going around with this. Good day.
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Dude! You said in the parts I colored red in your post I quoted that - "its dehydrated molasses."
I did not point out that you also said - right before the molasses thing,, and I quote here, "sucanat is not the same thing as cane sugar"

Now Wiki says that
Dr. Who said:
Sucanat (a contraction of "Sucre de canne naturel") is a brand name for a variety of whole cane sugar
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It dehydrated juice extracted from sugar cane! NOT dehydrated molasses!
It is simply a brand name of whole CANE SUGAR....

You can't substitute "Sucanat" for molasses! That's the "point"!
 
Olive Drab Green

Olive Drab Green

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Budley Doright said:
Just stop ...... Fuck! First you got the type of acid wrong, then you tried to cover your ass by pulling up useless MDS info, and spouting more lies, then you talk about the need to remove it from batteries, that was a huge laugh, thank you! And now what, you think all of the other ph down acids used are made in mom's kitchen and not a industrial setting .... wow, you do like to talk huh lol. Well at least you learned some stuff and I guess that's important :). Can you tell me how powdered sulphur is buffered?
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I didn't get the acid wrong, you didn't specify what type of battery. Other batteries contain HCl. Don't twist the facts, man. You're the one who's ok with putting industrial strength chemicals in your weed. I take serious issue with that, and wholeheartedly disagree with your choice. Anyone else who needs to pH their shit uses normal pH down and you want to use shit that was referred to in ancient times as "oil of vitriol." Look up vitriol.
 
Olive Drab Green

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"Sulfuric acid is capable of causing very severe burns, especially when it is at high concentrations. In common with other corrosive acids and alkali, it readily decomposes proteins and lipidsthrough amide and ester hydrolysisupon contact with living tissues, such as skin and flesh. In addition, it exhibits a strong dehydrating property on carbohydrates, liberating extra heat and causing secondary thermal burns.[9][10]Accordingly, it rapidly attacks the cornea and can induce permanent blindness if splashed onto eyes. If ingested, it damages internal organsirreversibly and may even be fatal.[6]Protective equipment should hence always be used when handling it. Moreover, its strong oxidizing propertymakes it highly corrosive to many metals and may extend its destruction on other materials.[9] Because of such reasons, damage posed by sulfuric acid is potentially more severe than that by other comparable strong acids, such as hydrochloric acid and nitric acid."


Preparation of the diluted acid can also be dangerous due to the heat released in the dilution process. The concentrated acid is always added to water and not the other way around, to take advantage of the relatively high heat capacity of water. Addition of water to concentrated sulfuric acid leads to the dispersal of a sulfuric acid aerosol or worse, an explosion. Preparation of solutions greater than 6 M (35%) in concentration is most dangerous, as the heat produced may be sufficient to boil the diluted acid: efficient mechanical stirring and external cooling (such as an ice bath) are essential.


Do you seriously think this ok to add to medicine? Or to any recreational vice, even? Use pH up like a normal person and get your sulfur in some refined or unrefined mineral form. Fucking reinventing the wheel to run yourself over.
 
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Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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Olive Drab Green said:
"Sulfuric acid is capable of causing very severe burns, especially when it is at high concentrations. In common with other corrosive acids and alkali, it readily decomposes proteins and lipidsthrough amide and ester hydrolysisupon contact with living tissues, such as skin and flesh. In addition, it exhibits a strong dehydrating property on carbohydrates, liberating extra heat and causing secondary thermal burns.[9][10]Accordingly, it rapidly attacks the cornea and can induce permanent blindness if splashed onto eyes. If ingested, it damages internal organsirreversibly and may even be fatal.[6]Protective equipment should hence always be used when handling it. Moreover, its strong oxidizing propertymakes it highly corrosive to many metals and may extend its destruction on other materials.[9] Because of such reasons, damage posed by sulfuric acid is potentially more severe than that by other comparable strong acids, such as hydrochloric acid and nitric acid."


Preparation of the diluted acid can also be dangerous due to the heat released in the dilution process. The concentrated acid is always added to water and not the other way around, to take advantage of the relatively high heat capacity of water. Addition of water to concentrated sulfuric acid leads to the dispersal of a sulfuric acid aerosol or worse, an explosion. Preparation of solutions greater than 6 M (35%) in concentration is most dangerous, as the heat produced may be sufficient to boil the diluted acid: efficient mechanical stirring and external cooling (such as an ice bath) are essential.


Do you seriously think this ok to add to medicine? Or to any recreational vice, even? Use pH up like a normal person and get your sulfur in some refined or unrefined mineral form. Fucking reinventing the wheel to run yourself over.
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I see you have been googling .... Good for you. I'm not going to pull up any of the many articles about the use of "battery acid" that's out there because that's not what this is about. This is about you wanting to hear yourself talk about shit you know nothing about. Yes I could cherry pick some articles that say it can and does get used with great results but why, again not what this is about. Reinventing the wheel??? Another stupid statement as its been used for years. And again do you honestly thing the bottled ph down active ingredient that is used is not made in an industrial setting? Don't use it, I don't care at all. As for the type of battery acid, you were told it was sulphuric and bought from auto zone ....... Have you had a stroke and are all confused or are you just grasping for a line. It's ok Olive keep answering threads with google searched content that has no relevance to the subject at hand, make your self look like a seasoned grower .... I get it :).
 
Olive Drab Green

Olive Drab Green

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Budley Doright said:
I see you have been googling .... Good for you. I'm not going to pull up any of the many articles about the use of "battery acid" that's out there because that's not what this is about. This is about you wanting to hear yourself talk about shit you know nothing about. Yes I could cherry pick some articles that say it can and does get used with great results but why, again not what this is about. Reinventing the wheel??? Another stupid statement as its been used for years. And again do you honestly thing the bottled ph down active ingredient that is used is not made in an industrial setting? Don't use it, I don't care at all. As for the type of battery acid, you were told it was sulphuric and bought from auto zone ....... Have you had a stroke and are all confused or are you just grasping for a line. It's ok Olive keep answering threads with google searched content that has no relevance to the subject at hand, make your self look like a seasoned grower .... I get it :).
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Why would I be talking shit? I just strongly disagree with the practice and concept of adding industrial grade sulfuric acid to cannabis plants. This isn't an ego trip, I'm just arguing practicality for your sake. I don't really care what you do.
 
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