hellmutt bones
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Whatfuq is a biotches??
Anyone hit those biotches with brown sugar and molasses during flower?
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On the flip side of things the organic amendments also have their contaminates.. Shit has whatever that animal ate and whatever it had on it.. In fact, from that stand point, organics has a greater likelihood of it.
Thereis less chance of burning due to the slow breakdown.. But once that toxicity is reached in soil it's practically impossible to undo. You can't drain the res and start over.
I'm there with you, I ran organic soil for years and was very much against raw salts (chemicals as I also called them at the time) for the same reasons until I finally dug in and realized I was misinformed. They aren't chemicals, just the raw, clean, broken down salt form of what the soil microbes are doing.. As long as you're getting quality salts, if you want the cleanest product for your health, as most of us do, quality raw salts, in a hydro setting, with a week of water only at the end is the way to go.
I always thought organic soil was so smooth until I ran my own salt formation with a week of water only before harvest.. Then did a side by side.. The organic soil buds I used to love and swear by were noticeably harsher in comparison.. And the organic soil was not harsh by any measure, extremely smooth.
Thereis less chance of burning due to the slow breakdown.. But once that toxicity is reached in soil it's practically impossible to undo. You can't drain the res and start over.
I'm there with you, I ran organic soil for years and was very much against raw salts (chemicals as I also called them at the time) for the same reasons until I finally dug in and realized I was misinformed. They aren't chemicals, just the raw, clean, broken down salt form of what the soil microbes are doing.. As long as you're getting quality salts, if you want the cleanest product for your health, as most of us do, quality raw salts, in a hydro setting, with a week of water only at the end is the way to go.
I always thought organic soil was so smooth until I ran my own salt formation with a week of water only before harvest.. Then did a side by side.. The organic soil buds I used to love and swear by were noticeably harsher in comparison.. And the organic soil was not harsh by any measure, extremely smooth.
Lordhooha
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What did you use and what do you do now? And was that last sentence supposed to be different. Lol one line you saidorganic was harsher and then went harsh at all lol. I've grown all ways other than just straight super soil I like to be in control. But I feel you on the what bird or bats eat comes out in the poo. I've been switching to organically done that's made here in Michigan and they are a pretty company but I still use my aptus stuff and mammoth p I'm hooked on them.
420BongRips
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Organics is the way to go.
Olive Drab Green
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Fo sho. $80 for the Roots Organic Dry Nutrients Player Pack. All you'll ever need for a few grows.
420BongRips
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I use a wide variety of organic line ups that cover all, plus humic acid. Gotta have humic acid.
Olive Drab Green
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Gotta.
I was saying as smooth as the organic soil is, the salts was that much better.
I started with biobizz, went to roots, then general organics, fresh brewed guano tea, super soil, down to earth amendments, then I switched to dwc... Dutch master, lucas formula, maxibloom, maxigro, my own salt formation, back to maxigro.
I switched to dwc because it was more of a challenge.. And I could get my plants twice as big in half the time.
To each their own.
I started with biobizz, went to roots, then general organics, fresh brewed guano tea, super soil, down to earth amendments, then I switched to dwc... Dutch master, lucas formula, maxibloom, maxigro, my own salt formation, back to maxigro.
I switched to dwc because it was more of a challenge.. And I could get my plants twice as big in half the time.
To each their own.
Dr. Who
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Molasses and Brown sugar = Better for cooking!
I use molasses to make AACT
I use dark brown sugar in making other formulations of expensive growing supplements that call for carbs. They are complex sugars that take a little work to break them down. Might as well add some nutritional components, even if they are trace levels in the "brown part"..
There are not enough concentrations of any nutrient, be it macro or micro, in molasses to make any real difference at the concentrations you mix with water......
The idea that you get an "overnight" reaction to any "nutrient" (carbs or sugars are NOT a nutrient) is not just WRONG, it's impossible!
Internet fakers
I use molasses to make AACT
I use dark brown sugar in making other formulations of expensive growing supplements that call for carbs. They are complex sugars that take a little work to break them down. Might as well add some nutritional components, even if they are trace levels in the "brown part"..
There are not enough concentrations of any nutrient, be it macro or micro, in molasses to make any real difference at the concentrations you mix with water......
The idea that you get an "overnight" reaction to any "nutrient" (carbs or sugars are NOT a nutrient) is not just WRONG, it's impossible!
Internet fakers
Dr. Who
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I get gallons of molasses at just over $10 a gallon from my local bakery/res supply
Besides Sucanat is simple pure cane sugar - not stripped of the "molasses"....To high in carbs for me!
Resinhound
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Ever wonder what brown sugar is? It's sugar with some molasses left in... Thats all it is . this guy is full of shit. There are plenty of carbs in molasses alone if that's what your soil needs.
As far as the dude using honey chome Bullshit, I see nothing earth shattering in his grow that's gonna make me run out and pay $30 for a $2 quart of honey.
As far as the dude using honey chome Bullshit, I see nothing earth shattering in his grow that's gonna make me run out and pay $30 for a $2 quart of honey.
Gary Goodson
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His plants are not impressive at all. If anything, he needs to stop trying to use tricks and products and learn how to grow a healthy plant.
This is one of those things I repeat over and over... It's gets old bro.
b4ds33d
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there is zero scientific rationale behind that. pure unadulterated bullshit it is.
Sucanat is not pure cane sugar. It's whole cane sugar.. It's unrefined.. It retains its molasses content. It's the non syrup form of molasses
Olive Drab Green
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If you guys want something that really effects potency and flavor, use sulfur/some kind of sulfate. Langbeinite if you're organic.
Uberknot
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How acidic is that stuff? Taking a look at it atm.
Olive Drab Green
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Not really sure, but especially in organics, it's not a problem, since it all buffers. RM3 did the write-up on it over years.
Uberknot
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Ok thanks, I will be researching myself until I understand everything.
The one thing none of it can teach you is to watch the plants and listen to them.....that is a learning curve.