Advanced Nutrients pH Perfect

medicalmary

medicalmary

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ScoobyDoobyDoo said:
that i believe you are referring to is "bloombastic" which is actually made by Atami and not AN. also, on that page that you linked, the only nutrient company that list the micro nutes is Dyna just like i said in my previous post. Jack's has some; but not all; of the micro nutes listed just like you will find on many AN labels. so, do you honestly believe that if the micro nute is not listed (as it is with TONS of nutrient companies) that it isn't actually in the formula? i think you should do some more research. yes, i can click on the .pdf and get the total breakdown...you can do that for AN so why are you claiming there are no micro nutes as you did in your previous post. seems like you are using different rules there sweetheart.

no offense to you but i just took a look at your journal. seems to me like some of your "vegging" plants are burnt and a few deficiencies showing as well. come on..you can basically keep a plant green in veg with tomato juice. you might wanna rethink that formula your using.

you can hate on AN's marketing all you want. lord knows i think those guys are clowns too. but don't start your holiar than thou crap just cause they are trying to make a buck. guess what...so is every other company. not everyone can run a 100% non profit just for the benefits of the growing community. maybe you should actually try their products before basjing them and regurjitatin the same old lame garbage you hear from your buddy at the hydro store or by all the inexperienced growers that burnt their crops using AN and then blamed the nutrient when they couldn't explain to you what a ppm is.
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  • that i believe you are referring to is "bloombastic" which is actually made by Atami and not AN.​
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http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bombastic . Enough said.

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patlpp

patlpp

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Kite High said:
that statement provides proof in and of itself that you believe hype...there are NO FACTS to back up the bolded statements you made... jus saying
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When you grow up you will see and learn things outside of the internet, you know, when you leave mommas basement and experience things personally. Just sayin'

When I first bought AN Sensi 2-part , no more expensive than any of the others. It worked great so I bought the new formula with the hobby kit and it too is doing great. I buy coco for my media so I save a bunch that way by recycling. I already gave you my per plant cost so how did I "fall for the hype"? They proved to be fantastic and are fairly economical. The main determinant to me though was SMOKE AND TASTE> Why don't you bring this discussion back to a mature level please. You are embarrassing yourself.

Shit I tried Humboldt 3 part and it works better than AN and GH for Veggies. Grew the best cukes and maters with it. Did so-so for MJ.
 
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problemsolver

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ControlledEnviorment said:
i just saw this stuff on Thehydrosource.com looks pretty cool i think i want to give it a try, would make things easier. Does any one have any experience with this pH Perfect Technology? Do you like it? is it worth the price?
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Chelated dipotassium polyaspartic acid is the pH perfect ingredient. When this solution becomes available in amounts less than a shipping container ( i.e. a boxcar) just add it to you reservoir to the tune of 10 ppm, and you will have a pH perfect formula when I feel like giving up the generic formula for AN connoisseur.
 
ScoobyDoobyDoo

ScoobyDoobyDoo

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medicalmary said:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bombastic . Enough said.

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sorry, i'm not a 15 year old high school chic so i don't know the latest "hip" words. lmao...

love how you don't address the real question there. how you claimed AN had no micro nutes cause they weren't listed on the bottle. then you drop a link in the thread for nutes that supposedly have the micro nutes listed on the bottle and none of them do. then you tell us that we have to click on the .pdf file. you really "showed" us!
 
VICTORYGARDENSHYDRO

VICTORYGARDENSHYDRO

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ScoobyDoobyDoo said:
you still mad bro? not everything is cal/mag newb...you'll learn. show everyone that colorful chart you have that identifies every deficiency for you so we can all have a laugh.
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there you go again tuna, trying to take the facing off yourself and put it on someone else. Typical childish move. Your sig makes perfect sense. Do you get along with anyone? you talk a big game and yet you have time to post over 50 times a day. Get a life loser.
 
Dr.blakedowns

Dr.blakedowns

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for real, is that guy here to help people or just tell everyone how much there grows suck and his is so much better. I see him putting people down all over this site. And 50 posts a day?
 
homebrewer

homebrewer

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problemsolver said:
Chelated dipotassium polyaspartic acid is the pH perfect ingredient. When this solution becomes available in amounts less than a shipping container ( i.e. a boxcar) just add it to you reservoir to the tune of 10 ppm, and you will have a pH perfect formula when I feel like giving up the generic formula for AN connoisseur.
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Maybe you have some insight into this; 73% of Connoisseur's nitrogen composition is Urea and Other Water Soluble nitrogen. Other than being cheap sources of N, they're fast acting with high foliar burn potential, why on Earth would they put that into a hydroponic formula? Everyone else seems to use nitrate and ammoniacal and everyone performs better in hydro.
 
Dr.blakedowns

Dr.blakedowns

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I am so cool, you all suck, look at how cool i am, I no nothing about the people i put down or there growing experience. I am so cool,you all suck, pound my chest. What a mook
 
patlpp

patlpp

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homebrewer said:
Maybe you have some insight into this; 73% of Connoisseur's nitrogen composition is Urea and Other Water Soluble nitrogen. Other than being cheap sources of N, they're fast acting with high foliar burn potential, why on Earth would they put that into a hydroponic formula? Everyone else seems to use nitrate and ammoniacal and everyone performs better in hydro.
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Where did you get that stat? I get .2% as urea. No crime, in fact it's good for your situation because you grow sort of "hybrid", not a pure inert hydro grow. Using Pro-mix you have urease which will process that urea.What I find questionable with Dyno is the high amount of ammoniacal nitrogen. From what I remember, that high amount is fine in low light/ low temp situations but when you are past the 2 week point or so with good foliage growth, the amnoniacal nitrogen is a waste, if not impeding growth. I think I remember 15% as a maximum ratio for hydroponics. What's you take? Maybe Dyno is catering to both soil AND hydro? The only companies I know of who are BAD with Urea are MG and 20-20.
 
ScoobyDoobyDoo

ScoobyDoobyDoo

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patlpp said:
Where did you get that stat? I get .2% as urea. No crime, in fact it's good for your situation because you grow sort of "hybrid", not a pure inert hydro grow. Using Pro-mix you have urease which will process that urea.What I find questionable with Dyno is the high amount of ammoniacal nitrogen. From what I remember, that high amount is fine in low light/ low temp situations but when you are past the 2 week point or so with good foliage growth, the amnoniacal nitrogen is a waste, if not impeding growth. I think I remember 15% as a maximum ratio for hydroponics. What's you take? Maybe Dyno is catering to both soil AND hydro? The only companies I know of who are BAD with Urea are MG and 20-20.
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i was wondering the same thing. i don't know where homebrewer came up with that number. my connoisseur labels say 4.8% nitrate and 0.2% urea.
 
homebrewer

homebrewer

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patlpp said:
Where did you get that stat? I get .2% as urea. No crime, in fact it's good for your situation because you grow sort of "hybrid", not a pure inert hydro grow.
Using Pro-mix you have urease which will process that urea.
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The exact composition of nitrogen on my Connoisseur bottles says:

Part A
.33% Nitrate
.89% Urea
2.78% Other Water Soluble Nitrogen

Part B
1% Nitrate

I never tested Connoisseur in promix, I ran it in my flood and drain tables with rockwool.

What I find questionable with Dyno is the high amount of ammoniacal nitrogen. From what I remember, that high amount is fine in low light/ low temp situations but when you are past the 2 week point or so with good foliage growth, the amnoniacal nitrogen is a waste, if not impeding growth.
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Nitrate is faster acting than ammoniacal and if my computer was running quicker, I'd pull up a good read on the different sources of N, how the plant utilizes them, and their relation to pH stability. Nitrogen is highly underrated by canna growers as every glossy bottle at the hydro store seems to be missing it. Cannabis is a leafy, flowering plant. We're not talking about a plant that has 1 pound watery fruits and veggies hanging from it, we're talking about a leafy plant whose flowers are essentially clusters of small leaves and seed bracts. With that being said, the demands of the plant, or rather the availability of certain minerals, changes depending on the medium.

I think I remember 15% as a maximum ratio for hydroponics. What's you take? Maybe Dyno is catering to both soil AND hydro? The only companies I know of who are BAD with Urea are MG and 20-20.
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You normally don't see a lot of ammoniacal N in hydro foods, not as much as DG anyways which is around 1/3 I believe. I don't know if they're shooting for versatility or attempting to slow down the uptake of N relative to the other elements, maybe I'll call them to see if they have an answer. GH and H&G's nitrogen source is mainly nitrate and I don't know if it's the nature of those multi-part formulas and how they're supposed to be used or it's the nitrate itself, but I've always found hydro foods with lots of nitrate in them to be a little hard on the plant over a long flowering period. Then again, those multi-part formulas tend to limit versatility in terms of scaling elements.

Regardless of their split, nitrate and ammoniacal seem to be industry standard for hydro foods and I'm wondering why the most expensive plant food on the planet uses urea and other water soluble nitrogen for their sources.
 
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