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4x4 Acapulco Gold

Discussion in 'Indoor Growing' started by CanadianDank, Sep 4, 2017.

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    CanadianDank

    CanadianDank Well-Known Member

    Here's my 5 AG plants by Barney's farm.

    4x4x6 secret Jardin

    About a month since seed pop, in a soil / promix hp mix. 3 gal pots.

    Vegged under a 1200w blurple until yesterday, threw my 400w MH in. Better penetration just gotta try to keep temps in check.

    Six inch roughly 500 cfm exhaust fan, have an 8 inch 720cfm with carbon filter for flower though.

    Just starting to feed this week,

    1/4 strength flora Nova
    Cal mag
    Silica

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    All opinions and suggestions welcome let's hear it.

    The middle top sativa pheno is my babe, but the bottom right took the fimming mint and will bush out nice.
     
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    chillok

    chillok Well-Known Member

    Barney's AG has a nice diesel fruit smell, great buds if done well. Light feeders, see yours are nice and green. Keep nutes light through flower too.
     
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    CanadianDank

    CanadianDank Well-Known Member

    Hey man, thanks alot for chiming in.
    Definitely right about being light feeders, gave them not even 1/4 strength nutes and saw super minor burn after.
    They're in 3 gallons now for another week or two then 5s for flower.
    Think I should order 7s instead?
     
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    BRANDON77

    BRANDON77 Well-Known Member

    i dont see a point up-potting from 3 to 5. Ide go to 10s, you should be able to fit 5 or 6 in a 4x4 with no trouble in 10 gallons. We tested 5s vs 10s this summer and the plants in 10s were better plants by far. Its kind of obvious that they would be, but the amount was more than I expected.
     
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    CanadianDank

    CanadianDank Well-Known Member

    Yeah to be honest I'd been starting to think going to fives was not gunna be enough too, they're like a couple inch deeper and a couple wider.
    I'll probably order those 7s then. 10s would be a bit more soil than I want to buy/mix this week haha.
     
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    chillok

    chillok Well-Known Member

    There are several considerations, is mobility a requirement? Training method? They can side branch like crazy, 5 7gal could be pushing it depending on training method. No way I'd say 5 10gal, they want to widen out. Great question, I'll attach some detail on 5 and 7 gal runs tomorrow,
     
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    chillok

    chillok Well-Known Member

    Hey OP I wanted to show how sativa dominant strains can widen out with various training methods. On left is a Malawi fully mainlined, on right a Delehaze topped once:
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    These are 7gal in a 3 x 3. I've managed 4 5gal and 3 7gal, but went with two 7gal this time. In a 4 x 4 I'd say you could run 5 5gal, but 7gal may be pushing it as they'll fill out.

    I've mainlined every run, but am experimenting with a top-once tomato cage "oak tree" design, letting early side branching develop while removing most growth tips afterwards, focusing on healthy fan leaves and side branching that really shoots up. They seem to match the main branching height without any work on my part, and the tomato cage serves as the spreader, to which I can tie things off for support.

    The plant grows fast and even. I popped that Delehaze two weeks after Malawi. Delehaze wasn't slowed down by mainlining and caught up nicely! Now it will be about yields. I'm hoping the great side branching will help her yield as if I'd mainlined. Some pics showing the side branching:
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    TheChemist77

    TheChemist77 Well-Known Member

    cant wait to nsee the ag in flower...i have a pack of 10 feminized from barney's farm,, been waiting to pop them..just put in paper towels 2 peppermint kush fem and 3 jock horror reg seeds... i normally grow indica dom strains,, im a sog grower using 4inch rock wool blocks..i dont have alot of height so i worry about the stretch w/ sativa dom strains.. hows the stretch w/ ag?
     
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    CanadianDank

    CanadianDank Well-Known Member

    Hmm thanks for sharing this, Its helped make my decision. I've transplanted them into 5 gal. And will flip to flower this week.

    And fuck me, I was hanging this 27 pound carbon filter and I'll be damned if I didn't drop it dead center on my fav plant.
    Crushed the main stem and just about every branch. Cut them all into clones, if they root maybe I'll have a mini sog in there.

    Between that and some personal shit it's been a rough week for me to say the least.

    Hey bro thanks for stopping in.
    I'm excited to see it in flower too.
    As for the stretch you'll just have to stay tuned and see!

    Post a pic of ur sog love to see what you got going on.
    I personally germ right right in a light soilless mix or pure peat. 100 percent for me.
     
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    TheChemist77

    TheChemist77 Well-Known Member

    i have a panama red thats 3 weeks into bloom,, no red color yet, very hairy, and clones of her go wright to bloom, any veg time and they would hit the ceiling!!
     
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    chillok

    chillok Well-Known Member

    Dang OP that sucks about the carbon filter. Hope your other girls do well. Love me some Acapulco Gold
     
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    CanadianDank

    CanadianDank Well-Known Member

    Been in flower about a week, I'm handling the stretch alright so far I think, need to get some more twist tie stuff though.
    They're filling out the tent nice. Here's a quick shot.

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    The little one at the bottom is a small clone of the nice male I had from the grim mix freebies. Propagation dome is clones from the plant I crushed, they'll finish rooting in 12/12 .
     
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    CanadianDank

    CanadianDank Well-Known Member

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    Gunna say stretch is over and call this week 1 of flower.
     
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    CanadianDank

    CanadianDank Well-Known Member

    Week 2 flower:
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    It's a jungle for sure, hard to keep good circulation without wind burn but I'm managing.
     
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    CanadianDank

    CanadianDank Well-Known Member

    Going into week 3 flower.

    Here's some budshots
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    If you noticed the water droplets, had had just pollinated a few buds on each plant, misted em down after.
    Really didn't take much care, but I barely introduced any pollen so im hoping for the best.
     
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    daveravedave

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    CanadianDank

    CanadianDank Well-Known Member

    Thanks Dave! Glad you popped in.
    Things have been going pretty well I'd say, had a few snags along the way but I'm finding my groove.
    Luckily for me this strain seems to be somewhat forgiving, as I work 50 hrs a week, sometimes I make a change in the tent and can't see the results until after work. The plants have had a few days were I'd come home and the temp at canopy level is above 85. Minor heat stress is visable, and I'm still working on heat issues but over vegging was my main problem.
     
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    CanadianDank

    CanadianDank Well-Known Member

    Your advice was very valuable and spot on.
    I stuck with five gallons and I'm glad I did.
    Also have found little evidence that plants can become root bound during flower in a way that negatively impacts their growth.
    Learning alot this round and just wanted to say thanks.
     
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    CanadianDank

    CanadianDank Well-Known Member

    Every day they're swelling up now, and I'm fuckin mclovin it.
    When I rub a sugar leaf I get a beautiful sweet lemon scent, very nice and much like Super Lemon Haze.
    My avg temp is 80 with some leaf surfaces reaching 84/85 but they don't seem to mind.

    Budshots!
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    CanadianDank

    CanadianDank Well-Known Member

    Hows that Panama red doing? Share some pics if you can
     

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