2x600 Watt B.C. Blueberry, Northern lights, and Mango. Comments Welcome

XxJUSTSAYNOxX · Jun 17, 2010

shannonball said:
go to wal mart and get a small window unit for like 80 bucks.

for what? i have a window unit blowing air out the window from the room next to the bedroom where the plants are. the bedroom's window is the window in question where there are people outside, and i've got it sealed up and covered so no light gets in or out.

when it gets moved to the top floor unit i'll be running a whole new setup with a 550cfm inline fan directly out that window

headbangaboogy · Jun 17, 2010

Are all of these under one light? thats inspiring im keeping an eye on this grow, i have the same light and a mango strain, i might follow in your footsteps

Marlowe · Jun 18, 2010

XxJUSTSAYNOxX said:
I still dont know if I want to breed seeds, do clones, both or none. It seems easy enough to just continue buying seeds, maybe try fem. next time.

I'm going to vent into my celing (ghetto) but i'll talk about that when i do it.

I just asked my landlord to move me up to a 2 bedroom top floor unit asap, and he has no problem with that. Then I can run my next setup I plan to buy with some of the proceeds from this one. This is what I'm thinking....the apartments here are sealed from one another, with no a/c or heating ducts.

2x1000 for flower (keeping the current 600 for veg)
4' x 8' x 7' grow tent with 6" carbon filter and approx 550cfm inline fan.
vent the flowering chamber out the window (top floor and on the corner so no one notices with box fabbed up over window to make it look normal from outside with blinds)

this way, I could use a small area somewhere else in the apartment to start seeds or clones, then veg under the 600 (32 plants in 6" pots like i have now), 2 weeks flower in the same spot just for sexing purposes, then move them into the flower chamber, 16 plants per 1000 watt (one per square foot) for the reamining 6 weeks of flowering.

seems to me this would be the best all around more efficient way to continuously harvest bud, and i would hope i could get 2 lbs every 6 weeks without too much trouble.

what do you guys think?

more pics and updates coming in the next hour. the grow is doing really well.

hey buddy... looks good.... you got some great ideas...

looks like you already cleaned up the underneath or i would suggest taking bottom four branches and cloning them when they are anywhere from 8 to 10"... if you keep it all labelled then at harvest time you can decide which plants you like the most and keep those clones as mothers... keep moms as a baseline and maybe throw ten beans in the mix when you can...

cause every once in a while you will stumble on that one in a thousand plant and if you didnt keep a clone...

XxJUSTSAYNOxX · Jun 18, 2010

Well I think my plants do have a nitrogen deficiency. I know I need to be adding the "b.c. boost" to the "b.c. grow" nutrient, but won't be able to pick it up for another week.

So what I did was gave them the "b.c." grow at 1/4 strength (2ml/gallon). Man oh man were the plants thirsty. A whooping 8 GALLONS before they started to show runoff!

I'm starting to wonder if its better to water less, and more often....rather than every several days like I'm doing now. Seems to me the more water that passes the roots during watering, the more the plants could soak up the nutrients in the water. Could be wrong, off to do some reading.

I'll post pics when I see the results of this watering/nutrient feeding.

simbo 59 · Jun 23, 2010

very nice pretty impressive and educating

XxJUSTSAYNOxX · Jun 24, 2010

DAY 2 FLOWERING!

Time to really start enjoying this grow! Overall I'd say the blueberry strain is doing the best, and the mango the worst. Mango's and Northern Lights are stretching more than Blueberry

After only 2 days after switching to 12/12, 3 of the Blueberry plants are already showing little white pistils!

Today I dumped over 8 gallons of water, no nutrients till next feeding. I can't believe how much these plants drink. I think I will water more often. I think these plants have been suffering from underwatering.

Also need the B.C. Boost to hopefully correct the possible 'n' defficiency. All bottom leaves are yellow, and some have some serious brown spots.

I'm now noticing that the roots are poking out the bottom of the drain holes of these 6" pots, so perfect timing to transplant once I pull all the males.

So the plan from now on is to water more often, always until it runs off. Try another 1/4 strength feeding (with the b.c. boost finally this time) in 3 days or so with next watering, and to transplant all the females into 12"x12" grow bags. I will be keeping a few mothers to clone from. Got lots of reading to do now about mothers and cloning.

Really excited to see how many females I get. Its a good thing I grew so many plants (currently 30) because even if I end up with 9 females I can do a 1m2 space. The goal will be to try and get an ounce a plant. 9 ounces of sweet sticky icky oohhh weeeeee bud when its all over.

HOLY SHIT! I'M AN IDIOT! Forgot to switch out the bulb for HPS. lmfao. I'll wait till this light cycle ends. haha

XxJUSTSAYNOxX · Jun 24, 2010

headbangaboogy said:
Are all of these under one light? thats inspiring im keeping an eye on this grow, i have the same light and a mango strain, i might follow in your footsteps

yes its all under the one 600 watt....

i have way too many plants. personally i think that 9 per 600 watt (one square meter space) each in 12" x 12" pots would be ideal for "sea of green".

My last grow I grew the mango from the same place bcseedking.com and it was really nice smoke! had citrus smell, and was quite strong.

LAX Skunky BwS · Jun 24, 2010

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DAY 2 FLOWERING!

Time to really start enjoying this grow! Overall I'd say the blueberry strain is doing the best, and the mango the worst. Mango's and Northern Lights are stretching more than Blueberry

After only 2 days after switching to 12/12, 3 of the Blueberry plants are already showing little white pistils!

Today I dumped over 8 gallons of water, no nutrients till next feeding. I can't believe how much these plants drink. I think I will water more often. I think these plants have been suffering from overwatering.

Also need the B.C. Boost to hopefully correct the possible 'n' defficiency. All bottom leaves are yellow, and some have some serious brown spots.

I'm now noticing that the roots are poking out the bottom of the drain holes of these 6" pots, so perfect timing to transplant once I pull all the males.

So the plan from now on is to water more often, always until it runs off. Try another 1/4 strength feeding (with the b.c. boost finally this time) in 3 days or so with next watering, and to transplant all the females into 12"x12" grow bags. I will be keeping a few mothers to clone from. Got lots of reading to do now about mothers and cloning.

Really excited to see how many females I get. Its a good thing I grew so many plants (currently 30) because even if I end up with 9 females I can do a 1m2 space. The goal will be to try and get an ounce a plant. 9 ounces of sweet sticky icky oohhh weeeeee bud when its all over.

HOLY SHIT! I'M AN IDIOT! Forgot to switch out the bulb for HPS. lmfao. I'll wait till this light cycle ends. haha

nice grow u got there .. alot of plants.. are these fem seeds or regular?

XxJUSTSAYNOxX · Jun 24, 2010

regular seeds. otherwise i wouldn't be pulling males. haha

just interrupted the dark cycle for about a minute switching out the MH bulb for an HPS. im going to assume that's not a problem as long as i don't make a habit out of interrupting the dark cycle.

im trying to make this grow educational for others, but primarily something to look back on so i don't make the same mistakes as i continue growing. hence, why my posts are written as if im speaking to an audience.

XxJUSTSAYNOxX · Jun 25, 2010

Lots of em are showing pistils...can't wait to get rid of the males

now that my lights are 12/12 i've got them on at night so heat isn't much of an issue as long as i keep the bedroom door open. wish i had a tent, carbon filter and inline fan cuz i know the smell is gunna hit real soon. its starting already.

the 8 seeds in the pic are "purps" which im starting now. I'm going to grow these under cfl's (working on a box system now). im also keeping a couple blueberry females for cloning purposes.

satire · Jun 26, 2010

With the deficiency issues that you're already seeing in your garden, you'll definitely want to move up to half strength nutes. Not only was 1/4 strength not enough, but the plants are also bigger now and can handle more. I would go to at least 1/2 strength, but the best thing you could do is pick up a meter to read PH and EC so you can be more precise. For soil, I usually maintain a PH of 6.4, and at at this stage, I'm at an EC of around 1.3, but it varies from strain to strain.

XxJUSTSAYNOxX · Jun 27, 2010

i hear you....the problem is not having the 3rd part to this 3 part nutrient line (i am guessing).......the bc boost has lots more nitrogen than the bc grow nutrient.

im ph'ing the water to 6.5.

i just picked up the boost, and will be feeding next watering.

XxJUSTSAYNOxX · Jun 27, 2010

DAY 5 FLOWERING GOODBYE MALES HELLO B.C PURPS

Found most of the males. I'm only unsure about 3 plants so they're still under the hps

So Female wise I've got 8 Blueberry, 6 Northern Lights, and 3 unknown (norhtern lights). The only remaining Mango plants were all male.

Took the 2 best looking (and shortest with closest nodes) plants to keep for mothers and threw them together with the 8 "Purps" seeds which all sprouted.

So I've got 1 Blueberry mother and 1 Northern Lights mother and the 8 sprouted seeds (in 6" pots) under just 2x23 watt cfl's on 24/0. I'm working on something better. Unsure if I'm going to run 6 cfl's, or regular flourescent lighting yet. Also working on designing some sort of box for mother/cloning area.

Picked up the B.C boost (this better solve my lack of nitrogen problem...its got lots of N), also picked up some 12" x 12" pots (3 gallon?) so once I find out what sex the 3 unknowns are, I can transplant. I think a 3' x 4' space should be perfect for 12 plants. 1 plant per square foot.

Off to figure out a cheap way to build a seedling/mother box with cfl's.

Overall, I'm loving the way these blueberry plants are doing. They have been the strongest, and most compact plants overall. I think they are keepers for sure.

XxJUSTSAYNOxX · Jun 29, 2010

DAY 7 FLOWERING and SEXING IS FULLY DONE

7 Northern Lights, 6 Blueberry are now transplanted into 12"x12" pots and fed with 1/4 strengh B.C. Bloom and B.C. Boost (finally). 4ml/Gallon of each. Dumped a total of 4 gallons over them. If you look at the last pic you can see how much the roots needed more room. Really hoping that finally having the "boost" that my nitrogen problem will be fixed. I've noticed the plants have virtually stopped growing in the last week. Assuming that is due to unsufficient nutrients, and the fact the roots had nowhere else to go.

6 of the 8 Purps seedlings have now popped the surface (6" pots with pro mix, and ph'd water) I put the seeds about 1" under the soil, so I expect them to take their time)

Still brainstorming about what I'm going to do for the seedlings and mothers. Still planning a box design (just something ghetto for now as i plan on upgrading)

Now to wait and see what happens!

ElectricPineapple · Jun 29, 2010

i think you will get your 8 zips. i vegged for 2 months and im using 5 gallon buckets. so i have a little bit better yielding capabilities per plant. but looking good. yes research is key. i made some mistakes and lost about a weeks worth of growth due to overwatering. ive done many many hours of research and prowling threads and that is the only reason this grow has gone the way it has so far.

XxJUSTSAYNOxX · Jul 1, 2010

DAY 9 FLOWERING! DAY 4 B.C. Purps (after germination)

Finally starting to see little buds on most of the plants. Blueberry doing better than Northern Lights as usual.

Dumped just over 8 gallons over the flowering plants with 1/4 strength nutes. Next watering will be 1/2 strength nutes (as long as I don't see nute burn).

Watered the Purps with ph'd tap water, and the 2 mother plants with 3/8 strength nutes. Still need to provide better lighting, etc for the mothers and seedlings but they are doing good.

Haven't seen any improvement with the apparent Nitrogen deficiency yet. See the above pic of all the lower leaves I pulled off.

Overall doing pretty good. Lots learned from this grow, and the challenge for the next grow is to NOT run into any problems I have with this one, and to hopefully start getting good at cloning.

The main things I learned so far with this grow is,

-make sure water is ph'd to approx 6.5 right from the start
-always water until there is runoff
-research nutes before using, and always start at 1/4 strength and work up from there
-don't underestimate how hot a 600watt can get
-roots grow fast. give them lots of room
-don't use miracle grow soil, or any soil with nutes as seeds and seedlings don't need em
-never use jiffy pots to start plants. the roots have a hard time getting through

XxJUSTSAYNOxX · Jul 6, 2010

DAY 14 FLOWERING (blueberry and northern lights)
DAY 9 SINCE GERMINATION (purps)

Dumped a whopping 10 gallons of water (no nutes) over the flowering plants today. Most I've ever given them. Its obvious that early flowering plants need to drink a lot!

They are really starting to bud nicely, the nitrogen deficiency problems have seemed to slow down to almost nothing, and they are really starting to smell (not good)

I thought for a while there that I was messing up but things are working out smoothly.

The purps seedlings seem to be coming along good. They are under just 1 x 4' flourescent (so poverty) but works for now.

If you look closely in the pics there are 2 plants in the front that have stretched big time are around 2.5 feet tall already. I've bent them over a little so they are getting more light. Its kind of a tossup. Do I raise the light to compensate, or just tie them over so the bud sites get more direct light and let all the others get the light they've always gotten.

Overall, like always 4 of the blueberry plants are budding the best and are staying the shortest (however they are not beginning to branch as much as the northern lights).

Pretty happy right now! I'm thinking of staying true to this blueberry strain.

Also in the last few days, the crystals are really starting to come out.

ran4it2 · Jul 7, 2010

looking real nice man! i have a really light smell in my box.
I want to try some hps with some DWC next grow but i dont have enough space for that
keep up the good work!

your plants def look like they are progressing a little faster probably because of the hps

XxJUSTSAYNOxX · Jul 7, 2010

thanks bro!

just never underestimate how hot hps gets. my entire apartment is HOT!

next round I'll be adding a tent, carbon filter, and inline fan (and hood with 6" ducts). I also want to go with 2x1000 hps for flowering, but I won't be able to set that up until I get my top floor corner unit apartment so I can vent out the window.

nailz92002 · Jul 7, 2010

Looking really good dude!

Keep up the great work. I have been following along this whole time. You will have some really beautiful plants on your hands in a couple of weeks. When they get into the 4 and 5 week of flowering those buds will start to swell up and get super dense. The smell is only going to intensify. If that is an issue for you I recommend that you get some kind of deodorizer. Here is a link to a DIY Cabon Filter~~~> https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/90893-ultimate-odour-control-thread.html Hope this helps

Peace and positive energy to you

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