180w jumbo ufo grow(in progress)

beeker74

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ill harvest less then 30days so ill be cool. i just dont get why my last grow with the 90w was realy dense??? its bugging me what happen, they looked so good and fat. i thought ud get 1/2oz -1oz at least. so it was dense when growing and trimming then once it dried it was fluffy?????????. bascialy all water?? i fell so bad for you bro!! its just a fucked up deal for you. so ur rocking a 600hps now?
Hell yeah brother-I'll post some pics of the 600 tomorrow.
 

beeker74

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Hell yeah brother-I'll post some pics of the 600 tomorrow.
I'm so fuckin stoned(off hps bud mind you) that I forgot about these pics.Clones grew 2 inches in one day under HPS.Plants that looked stunted, one looked like a deformed clover plant, have already begun to rise and spread.I was getting 2 inches a week it seemed with the "miracle grow light" + I left one heavily, ha-ha, budding plant that was 2 weeks behind the rest-lets see if the hps will repair the poor thing.You always leave one alive, to let the others know you're not fuckin around:fire:
 

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irishboy

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I'm so fuckin stoned(off hps bud mind you) that I forgot about these pics.Clones grew 2 inches in one day under HPS.Plants that looked stunted, one looked like a deformed clover plant, have already begun to rise and spread.I was getting 2 inches a week it seemed with the "miracle grow light" + I left one heavily, ha-ha, budding plant that was 2 weeks behind the rest-lets see if the hps will repair the poor thing.You always leave one alive, to let the others know you're not fuckin around:fire:

dose ur temps go way up with ur 600w? how much differnts with fans running? they look nice bro. good luck.
 

beeker74

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dose ur temps go way up with ur 600w? how much differnts with fans running? they look nice bro. good luck.
thanks man, I added a little transfer air fan to the tent, and with the fan going full bore-82, fuck it-I added a bunch of fans inside to keep air moving- the leaves look like their shimmering- and happy, like they've been starved, and just stumbled into the Country Buffet.
 

irishboy

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thanks man, I added a little transfer air fan to the tent, and with the fan going full bore-82, fuck it-I added a bunch of fans inside to keep air moving- the leaves look like their shimmering- and happy, like they've been starved, and just stumbled into the Country Buffet.
what were the temps with the leds? what the diff now?
 

beeker74

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what were the temps with the leds? what the diff now?
Only 6 degrees warmer, I was at 75 before- I have these AC boosters over the central air grates now- they work OK.Thats another thing-the temperature thing-after some serious looking around theres a shit-load of ways to keep a HID space cooler.Have you checked out portable ac units- the standup units?
 

irishboy

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Only 6 degrees warmer, I was at 75 before- I have these AC boosters over the central air grates now- they work OK.Thats another thing-the temperature thing-after some serious looking around theres a shit-load of ways to keep a HID space cooler.Have you checked out portable ac units- the standup units?
ya i have one but i am a ass hole.. when its 105F* out at night and i am trying to sleep fuck the MJ plants i need that shit more. i used it one time and it coast too much money then it was worth to cool down the room.
 

beeker74

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ya i have one but i am a ass hole.. when its 105F* out at night and i am trying to sleep fuck the MJ plants i need that shit more. i used it one time and it coast too much money then it was worth to cool down the room.
pretty decent size room? I can understand that, eh-summer dont last forever.What size is your tent Irish?
 

irishboy

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pretty decent size room? I can understand that, eh-summer dont last forever.What size is your tent Irish?
not tent, just mylar on some wood walls i made. my room is 8x10. soon it will be cold as hell. but i rater deal with the cold then the heat. its cheaper to heat my room then cool it.
 

beeker74

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just got an e-mail from my friend that I gave the fluffy blue hash to-5 people smoked it up in an hour with no noticeable effects-zero potentcy.I swear, you'll never see the word LED in another thread title of mine, unless it's followed by sucks dog dick.3 months to grow a shitty plant that gets smoked up in an hour.The only effects being a sore throat.ZERO POTENCY- something to consider.Fuck leds.They're absolute bullshit-this is directed at the led salesman...:finger:
 

beeker74

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can you all believe this led bullshit has been going on for years now-fucking years.And it wont stop- I just tried to convince a kid with a glow panel that he may be able to grow some alfalfa sprouts-not many, maybe enough to garnish a plate.So he says " well how can I grow in an UNVENTILATED closet", I said not at all.This ended with the kid saying "Well I think it will work anyway." So there you have it, people see only what they want.Not me.This kid will fail horribly, and out of embarrasment fade away in cyberspace-his failure never recorded for all to see.Fuckem, I tried.
 

irishboy

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hey did you ever get that water farm in bf? just wanted to know what u thought about it, was looking at these for a while now. pics of it would be cool id like to see the grow chamber.
 

beeker74

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hey did you ever get that water farm in bf? just wanted to know what u thought about it, was looking at these for a while now. pics of it would be cool id like to see the grow chamber.
I'm settin up the waterfarm today bro, will have tons of pics for ya-promise.
 

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beeker74

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  1. LEDs are more efficient than HPS. Is not true!
    LEDs are currently less efficient than HPS, especially the blue ones and they are many times more expensive. A typical HPS gives about 140 Lumen/Watt, where the best LEDs still are at 100 Lumen/Watt. The often-heard statement that LEDs produce less heat than normal assimilation lighting is a misconception. Because the energy conversion is worse than in HPS, the heat per watt still higher than that of HPS. It begins to approach each other but just for the red LEDs and white LEDs. The heat is better to handle because it does not come out the front as radiation, but is concentrated on the back of the chip and can be lead to proper heatsinks.
 

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  1. LEDs are more efficient because more light at the most efficient parts of the spectrum is used. Is not true!
    All photons in the visible light are used at almost the same efficiency. There is a slight decrease for the green photons, but it is no way as bad as Led-panel salesmen would like you to believe. (For fun you can compare this official graph with the ones found on Led-panel sites)



    Here is the light-output of a typical HPS bulb:



    As you can see it matches the optimal spectrum quite nicely, using LEDs will not improve this very much. HPS's are really very good lights. LEDs are succesfully used in special horticultural applications but not (yet) to replace horticultural lamps, it will probably take 5-10 years until they do.
 

irishboy

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cant wait to see that WF setup and to watch this grow using it. do u think its worth getting the WF or just making my own? thanks Bro
 

beeker74

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heres a sample of my upcoming thread-the power grower test.
 

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irishboy

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ya thats going to be bad ass:clap: those stock holes suck, i was planning on drilling more holes with mine when i get it. watch this plant in going to grow very fast with this hydro setup. you should try scrog or lst. get some monster buds. good luck brother.
 
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