http://www.ledgrow.eu/ this guy, ole Hans is doing some interesting work with leds-pulls a g/watt and proves it.But even he very freely states that hps is far more efficient.Interesting read
180w jumbo ufo grow(in progress)
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they're like dandelions- and I think it's partially the narrow beam emission-alot of light just isnt getting to the plants.Thats why I'm here-shit, I'd love these things to work as promised- they just dont.
150w hps-2 weeks 12/12
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180w led-2 weeks 12/12, can we see where this is going?
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the first pic is my hps/fluoro blueberry, the second is led blueberry.Still thinkin about converting, I tried to talk a young dude out of buying 1000US worth of led bulbs, he didnt listen-dont be like that kid.The first blueberry was grown with a 150 hps and some fluoro(52w)-total cost was 65US, the unit that grew the second plant is 700, to reiterate-I just traded a 300US beat up ufo(they wanted to make sure I had one of their models) for the 180-on the condition that I post all this-I dont think they'll ask me again
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I figure theres 6 weeks left on the led grow- and as much on the hps grow.I'll be posting every spec-weight especially-you wont believe how light the led buds are until you see a big pile of it on the scale, and read the paltry number beneath.Fuckin sad really.Thats why I'm here tho- to put a fuckin end to this hps/led debate-cause the #'s dont lie.6 weeks and we'll all see the truth.
and like my man here said, I'll be putting back my 600 in that nice mylar tent, thats currently being occupied by the led plants- ahhhhh, 600w hortilux
- happy days big nugs again.
The Kush Guy
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Awesome post man, I was just chatting with a guy on another thread asking about LEDs. I sent him over here too.
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TKG
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thank you very much-I just cant let another one of these fuckin things be bought under false, and hopefully any pretense.For the price of a decent unit that will deliver mediocre results-decent being maybe 1/3 g/watt-if your'e lucky, you could set up a kick ass 2 stage set-up-mh,hps-or just hps if you prefer- and still have enough cash left for 2 years supply of nutes.And hey, you'll actually have a set-up you can get something out of.I was fooled by the pretty looking, fuckin dandelionish-air weed my buddy calls it-excuse for bud I got-and thats the thing-under those pretty colors a pile of dogshit in the rain would look appetizing, lol-I got alot of good laughs out of this-particularily at myself for being so obsessed with the pretty colors- and thats all it is-pretty aesthetics pretending to be legit product.My past led grows have always included cfl supplementation, or a small-70w hps- I never felt confident enough to go "pure" well this time I did and are you ready-of the last 3 nice looking plants I harvested-12 fuckin grams was my BIG hauler-a 3 ft blue hash that I was pumped about- I gave the weed to a friend that said "What the fuck is this?"-to which I replied- "Free", need I say more?
How much more would you say the additional white light helped compared to what you saw from "pure" led?
I'll put it this way- from what I weighed from this grow, I'd say the cfls we're doing 80% of the work.I guess I was too busy bein proud of my little led/cfl harvests, that I forgot that I had to add 150 watts of cfl to a 90w ufo- hmmm, maybe it should have hit my stoner ass then that the cfl's were doing all the flowering- but oh those pretty lights.
It just hit me-whats the fuckin point of continuing the pure led grow-6 grams is all anybody reading this needs to hear, on a 3' plant.Never in my life, fuck it- I'll be harvesting a blueberry, Nightshade, and Cali Hash plant tomorrow-I'll post the weights of these 3 plants, after that- a fucking hps is goin in there to finish the job on the clones properly- when someone shows you their killer led grow, ask for some shots on the scale, can you tell I'm pissed-I wont even sell the thing-wouldnt do it to a fellow grower.My prediction on each plants weight-5 grams a piece-FUCK THAT
irishboy
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take it back you still have 90days. i hope this isnt going to hapen to me? when i did the total led grow with my 90w tri-ban i got a oz per plant and they were desnse to. i am going to squeze my buds tomarrow and see. now i am triping. fuck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i let u know how mine is doing. i just dont get it why did my 90w do so good?? they were solid nugd and a oz per plant is good for 90w's. i would have never guessed that would be the total of ur plant.
I hope it dosent happen to you-I just had to make a call-keep going with led and eventually run out of my hps stash, or pulling the led project and switchin out the leds for my tried and true hps- I dont know what the deal is, I've never had such a lousy pull Irish, it was so bad that I hooked up the 600w hps and the ac unit this morning- the leaves we're all hanging low this morning with the leds hovering over them- 10 min after the 600 went in, the leaves all picked up, and the plants looked much happier.Thinking on it, I now believe leds only work optrimally with certain strains-i.e. low light requirement plants, it's just too much fartin around when it's just much simpler, and guaranteed with hps.Just look at your hps grow brother-amazing, you're pulling POUNDS per plant my man-I dont think you could ever get those results with led.That one pic literally looks like a mountain of bud-do me a favor man, would you post some pics of your hps grow on here?
The Kush Guy
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I am by no means an LED hater, I did a couple week test with a couple clones and couldnt get a satisfactory Veg state under LEDs. I saw the same droppy leaves and unhappy plants.
This is a great thread brother, someone should really sticky this as I think you have the proof in the posts, LEDs VS HPS dont compare at all. Everyone talking about spending money on LEDs should have a read on what you have experienced so at least they go in eyes wide open.
TKG
This is a great thread brother, someone should really sticky this as I think you have the proof in the posts, LEDs VS HPS dont compare at all. Everyone talking about spending money on LEDs should have a read on what you have experienced so at least they go in eyes wide open.
TKG
rubberguard
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Fuck man im happy i didnt drop the cash on the similar LED unit. I didnt even read this thread at the time but i made the decision to not fall into the led hype yet but i was very very tempted. I end up going with Nextgen Digital ballasts, so so small and they run real nice.
Your thread is informative for many of the people thinking of droping the bucks on the leds
Thank you muchly and i hope your girls beef up with the 600 watter in there now.
Your thread is informative for many of the people thinking of droping the bucks on the leds
Thank you muchly and i hope your girls beef up with the 600 watter in there now.