thank you, and they look much happier under a real light.I'm glad you didnt make that led purchase- your digital ballasted HIDs will reward you for your hard work-digital is what I use-Lumatek.And I gotta tell ya- the heat is totally manageable with 600w of air cooled, digital ballasted HID.I'm tellin ya, it's the pretty colors that draws ya in.Hopefully this thread will help many others make their decision.Wisely.
thanks man, I just sincerely hope this helps someone ready to drop some serious grippage on these sham-wows of the growlight industry.Today I harvested the rest of the failures-stripped all leaves(mostly leaves) and dandelion buds and unceremoniously tossed them is the trimmings box, I dont even care how much they weigh, they'll be in a bubble bag soon enough.Huh, a crop consisting entirely of trimmings...
Amen to that brother-consistency is key, it's just crazy that strains that we're putting out 2-3 oz a plant under hps, with the same conditions are now putting out, at best, less than a half ounce.Fuck this led thing man, I gotta play catch-up with my HID's.
the round thing is a marketing ploy, they put out different models, same leds, and I think they found the "cool" ufo shape to be most pleasing to the eye. But yeah man, it is totally impractical.
My buddy wants one to veg clones-he likes the indi quadrants. I got the big discount, so I gave him the same.Pickin it up tonite.I busted out the ole 250 mh for veg.
i think i am going to ride out this grow untill harvest and see what happens? do u think it was becasue you hade the light 2' away? its just driving me crazy! why ur are fluff shit and mine are dense. i mean they arnt like a rock but for 6 weeks they are where they sould be since i have a 9week plant.
I dont know brother, at this point these lights are a mystery to me.I got my fingers and toes crossed for ya man.I think a combo of the tent being too big, a prosource recommendation, and the lamp being too high, another prosource recommendation, more than likely contributed.But this light is supposed to be 600w hps equivalent, and according to Michael has greater penetrating power in the lower canopy than HPS.If all that was true, 2 ft from the canopy should have been no problem.I think this thing would work better in a little 2x2 homebox packed with rooted clones, maybe the narrow beams in the unit require a "cramming" of the light in a small space.It's just in five years of growing I've never seen buds that looked so plump wither to tiny tumbleweeds, never...til now.But who knows?All I know is that I've got a heavy habit, and there is no-way leds- in my experience - can tackle it.Who really has hard data published on the reasons for success or failure in this tek, with mj?Notice the lettuce tests?How many mj tests?None.It's all speculation, and someone out there is getting stinkin rich with this shit.Just look at the # of bids for these things on e-bay auction.And why are these companies selling their ufo's for half what they we're charging 6 months ago?And why the fuck is prosource still selling their supposedly out dated and according to them, inferior ufo's on e-bay for the same price as their "latest" miracle.Too many things arent adding up.The HID industry dosent resort to bullshit sales tactics because they have a product that consistently produces results.Just too many things arent adding up.In my case, it was the weight of my so called buds.Whew...rant over, sorry guys
just keep your fingures crossed for me. i just lowerd my light to 12". rember last time i said i tried the 18" with the 90w with my last grow? well i moved my light 12" above the tops and they went crazy. i still have 90 days to fuck around with this shit so i am going to at least finish up this grow. its just too hot over here to run my hps its 102F* out side every day almost.. and i dont have A/C. i will diff post pics of my total weight on a scale so you and every one can see. when your buds were on the plant did they still seem fluffy or only when dried?? i felt mine and their not fluffy at all. i just dont get it your looked so nice. WTF??? i dont blame you for being pissed i wonld be realy pissed. is their any reason you can think of besides the led? i just dont get it, if anything i should have the fluffy bubs because i have a sativa that needs more light, and my temps are always 95-100F* fuck i am triping out!!! did they ever seen fluffy while they were on ur plant? you looked at the trcs and they were ripe?
Yeah man, busted out the led scope-amber- and they looked so firm.The blueberry bud squashed flat, but the blue hash was soild wet-I just cant believe it, you saw that blue hash plant right?WTF!!Not only do I have my fingers crossed, but you get a prayer with that, choose your deity, you're one hell of a good guy Irish-and I'm throwing ya some Irish luck.
oh shit so it was dense when wet but once dried it was fluffy? fuck!!! dude that would suck. i thought it was fluffy the whole time even when growing and u didnt notice it. i was wondering how u didnt notice that? i am just going to ride it out and give them a chance to grow my buds nice and dense i have about 3 or 4 weeks left. thanks for the prayer bro!
No problem brother-and I sincerely hope I'm the one thats fucked up here, just keep your eye on that 90 days-harvest a nug early if you have to-and then perform every test on that fuckin bud you can.Like I said, it would kill me to see you out that cash