so is survival of the fittest.
The Charge: Desertion
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abandonconflict
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Actually, no. That phrase was coined by right wing economist Herbert Spencer.
Rob Roy
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I'm not wallowing in misery. I'm sitting in a hot tub with some attractive company sipping a pitcher of Margaritas and trying to keep something lit.
The object of FREEDOM is not to have coercive imposed leaders. I recommend you break bad laws.
abandonconflict
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I bet there is a correlation to his habit of comparing everything to rape.
Rob Roy
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Which means used is used for a rapist to achieve his / her goal?
Which means is used for a tax collector to achieve his / her goal?
Which means is used for any other kind of involuntary transfer of something from a rightful owner to an illegitimate entity?
I think the thing that is consistent in all is initiated force. In that regard the means is similar.
Please don't rape the block of government swiss cheese you hoard. It's just not cool if somebody else wants a bite for you to have poked the holes in wild abandon and not warn them.
abandonconflict
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You poor little rape victim, you had to pay taxes...
Rob Roy
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I don't mind paying for things I use. I do mind being forced to pay for things I don't use and don't like.
I don't mind you accepting charity from people willing to donate it to you either.
If they aren't willing to donate, are you okay with somebody forcing them to give it up?
abandonconflict
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We get it, you think taxation is the same as rape...
i disagree..jack london.."call of the wild" circa 1903.
abandonconflict
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That's nice.
not just any old rape either..ass rape
Doer
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I want him put to death. He got people killed and it should be Article 99.so if he gets the obligatory 4-5 years for desertion at camp kentucky..minus the captivity?
you guys act like you want him to suffer.
http://usmilitary.about.com/od/punitivearticles/a/mcm85.htm
Punitive Articles of the UCMJ
Article 85—Desertion
(a) Any member of the armed forces who
(1) without authority goes or remains absent from his unit, organization, or place of duty with intent to remain away therefrom permanently;
(c) Any person found guilty of desertion or attempt to desert shall be punished, if the offense is committed in time of war, by death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct, but if the desertion or attempt to desert occurs at any other time, by such punishment, other than death, as a court-martial may direct.
(2) Desertion with intent to avoid hazardous duty or to shirk important service.
(a) That the accused quit his or her unit, organization, or other place of duty;
(b) That the accused did so with the intent to avoid a certain duty or shirk a certain service;
(c) That the duty to be performed was hazardous or the service important;
(d) That the accused knew that he or she would be required for such duty or service; and
(e) That the accused remained absent until the date alleged.
Article 99—Misbehavior before the enemy
“Any member of the armed forces who before or in the presence of the enemy—
(1) runs away;
(2) shamefully abandons, surrenders, or delivers up any command, unit, place, or military property which it is his duty to defend;
(3) through disobedience, neglect, or intentional misconduct endangers the safety of any such command, unit, place, or military property;
(4) casts away his arms or ammunition;
(5) is guilty of cowardly conduct;
(6) quits his place of duty to plunder or pillage;
(7) causes false alarms in any command, unit, or place under control of the armed forces;
( willfully fails to do his utmost to encounter, engage, capture, or destroy any enemy troops, combatants, vessels, aircraft, or any other thing, which it is his duty so to encounter, engage, capture, or destroy; or
(9) does not afford all practicable relief and assistance to any troops, combatants, vessels, or aircraft of the armed forces belonging to the United States or their allies when engaged in battle; shall be punished by death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct.”
Either way, he will get a lot more than 4-5 years. This is life, 40 yrs, or Death.
Rob Roy
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I think if people can own their own body, they ought to be able to fully own their home and their labor too.
We get it, you are okay with forcing people to labor on your behalf. Making people use their bodies to serve another....has rape like qualities to it...hmmm. Ted Bundy??? Is that you?
i see he said in 1869..that would make you correct
abandonconflict
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So now you are opposed to employers paying an hourly wage while keeping the actual value of the labor...
I want him put to death. He got people killed and it should be Article 99.
http://usmilitary.about.com/od/punitivearticles/a/mcm85.htm
Punitive Articles of the UCMJ
Article 85—Desertion
(a) Any member of the armed forces who
(2) quits his unit, organization, or place of duty with intent to avoid hazardous duty or to shirk important service
(1) without authority goes or remains absent from his unit, organization, or place of duty with intent to remain away therefrom permanently;
(c) Any person found guilty of desertion or attempt to desert shall be punished, if the offense is committed in time of war, by death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct, but if the desertion or attempt to desert occurs at any other time, by such punishment, other than death, as a court-martial may direct.
(2) Desertion with intent to avoid hazardous duty or to shirk important service.
(a) That the accused quit his or her unit, organization, or other place of duty;Punitive Articles of the UCMJ
(b) That the accused did so with the intent to avoid a certain duty or shirk a certain service;
(c) That the duty to be performed was hazardous or the service important;
(d) That the accused knew that he or she would be required for such duty or service; and
(e) That the accused remained absent until the date alleged.
Article 99—Misbehavior before the enemy
“Any member of the armed forces who before or in the presence of the enemy—
(1) runs away;
(2) shamefully abandons, surrenders, or delivers up any command, unit, place, or military property which it is his duty to defend;
(3) through disobedience, neglect, or intentional misconduct endangers the safety of any such command, unit, place, or military property;
(4) casts away his arms or ammunition;
(5) is guilty of cowardly conduct;
(6) quits his place of duty to plunder or pillage;
(7) causes false alarms in any command, unit, or place under control of the armed forces;
( willfully fails to do his utmost to encounter, engage, capture, or destroy any enemy troops, combatants, vessels, aircraft, or any other thing, which it is his duty so to encounter, engage, capture, or destroy; or
(9) does not afford all practicable relief and assistance to any troops, combatants, vessels, or aircraft of the armed forces belonging to the United States or their allies when engaged in battle; shall be punished by death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct.”
Either way, he will get a lot more than 4-5 years. This is life, 40 yrs, or Death.
who was the last person to be put to death for desertion?
abandonconflict
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However, the phrase did make it to the first two editions of On the Origin of Species but Darwin concluded it was an inapt description of natural selection.i see he said in 1869..that would make you correct
RR you do own..just have a responsibility to society and it's infrastructure.
you want to be on your own not pay for anything but what you use?..go off the grid..find a trailer and drop by copter..but of course no utilities so you would have to leave a monthly order at the outpost for them to drop ship your provisions.
there you have it!
but now you're gonna tell me why you can't do that either.
indian country?