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The Grow Room forums; So things have changed quite a bit round these parts in the last few months...a few months ago I had ...
Cann's Organic No-Till Garden
So things have changed quite a bit round these parts in the last few months...a few months ago I had a sudden enlightenment and ditched the bottled nutes, bagged soil/supersoil, pH meter, and associated mythology. I am now able to apply principles of permaculture and no-till gardening/soil recycling into my indoor operation, whereas before I was of the mentality that I would fail miserably had I not maintained the proper pH and fed the right amount of bottled nutes etc, etc. Needless to say a lot has changed, and I am infinitely happier. So happy in fact that I would like to share with y'all so you can ditch the pH pen and bottled gunk too, and save yourself some hassle and money in the process!
First I have to give a shoutout to Rrog, who was one of the first to make me think outside the current paradigm of cannabis growing, and look towards horticulture for my answers. Thank you very much kind sir you've helped more than you know. Also a shoutout to all those on ICmag who are the true visionaries in this field - cootz, gas, MM, and the whole gang...
Now onto the goods. I am currently harvesting a cycle that was a bootleg mix of bagged soil and botanical/enzyme teas etc, but I don't feel happy enough about the results/purity to include it in this journal. As far as the "purity" of this new cycle - I do still use a few bottled products, but they are nothing like the bottled guanos etc I was using before. 99% of the bottled nutes at the hydro store are trash with awesome labels, but there are a few products that are truly worthwhile (although usually overpriced). I use ful-power, which is a fulvic acid concentrate made by BioAg. I have Agsil 16H, which is a potassium silicate powder that I mix with water to create something reminiscent of pro-tekt (protekt is just more expensive so I go with Agsil). I also have freeze dried aloe powder that I mix into my water. If I work hard I can source fresh aloe, or horsetail/nettle (for silica) - but often I don't have the time/need to do these things.
So for the sake of simplicity I'll start from a few weeks ago when I took cuts from my mothers sans clonex (something I would've though was insane before). I was following a cloning method suggested by ClackamasCootz which is as follows:
Mix 1 gal h2o with 1oz ful-power (fulvic acid), 2oz aloe, 1tsp potassium silicate. Soak your cuts in this mix for a few hours. Soak your rapidrooters (or another medium) in this mix for a few hours as well. When you get around to it, combine the plugs and cuts however you so choose and place them in your trays or whatever you use. Treat them like you would treat any other clone (mist/humidity, airflow, etc.) 10-14 days later you will have something that looks like this:
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This is what they look like a few days after being put into a "recycled" soil mix. During transplant I sprinkle the roots with mycorrhizae and once they are potted I water with aloe/fulpower/silica and give them an aloe foliar.
These are by far the greenest/happiest clones I have EVER had. No transplant shock, no chlorosis, no wilting. Straight green and praying leaves the entire time. Needless to say I am never going to buy clonex again, and I will urge others to do the same. Next time I do this I am going to rub the stems inside of a fresh aloe filet right before the cuts go into rapidrooters - we'll see if it can get any better than this lol. I had to compost a bunch of cuts because I had too many! every single one rooted.
Here is a quick shot of the veg room a few weeks ago after I sprayed with a neem/silica foliar. I'll post an updated pic later.
My recently acquired genetics - The One x Blue Moon Rocks Bx1, and Blue Orca x NL#5/Nevilles Haze. Popped 5 beans of each, unfortunately one of the TOxBMR backcrosses didn't make it out of the rapid rooter. Upon examination the seed had cracked and then rotted...not sure what happened as it was in identical conditions to its brothers and sisters who all came up with no problem. Regardless, I'm searching for a keeper so it's not necessarily a bad thing to lose a weak plant. Survival of the fittest. Beans were inoculated with mycorrhizae and put in rapidrooters on 2/25 after a 16 hour soak in fulpower/aloe/coconut h2o. The first picture was taken on 2/10, the second picture about 10 minutes ago.
More pictures and such later, gotta run. Peace
Lookin' good, Cann! I'll be along for the ride.
What size pot are you planning to use for your no-tills?
Seems like we've had a very similar progression of ditching the bottles and moving on to truer forms of organics. I definitely will be recycling my most recent batch of soil (mixed entirely from scratch), but I don't think I'll be going no-till quite yet. Much more reading to do on that topic... Some day.
Last edited by SpicySativa; 03-15-2013 at 08:14 PM.
Nice! Subbed up my man!
10-12 gallon twice a month over 240 gallons of soil a year is going to waste....... and at $25 abag that adds up fast.Holy shit...what are you paying $25 a bag for??? lol. I can help you turn that "waste" into amazing no-till soil, which you will never have to replace. Folks don't realize how cheap this can be if you are reusing soil for cycles and cycles. No more wasting $$$ on bottled nutes and bags of soil - invest that money in a good no-till soil and you will start raking in the savings.
Great thread Cann. Nothing but respect!
(I rescued my buddies "used super soil" recently, score! 55 gallon trash drum full of "waste"...
Last edited by Rising Moon; 03-17-2013 at 06:20 PM.
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Looking good cann. What kinda potassium silicate are you using for the clones. I have the rest of the stuff and would like to give that method a try.
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I cant believe how beautiful it is here!
and they call it herbal love! 026.jpgSo ive been sourcing fresh aloe by keeping them happy under my eye hortilux lol, i think theyre happy! I cant wait to follow this recipe and watch them flourish!
I cant believe how beautiful it is here!
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