The 99%- occupy movement- lacking focus and organisation!

joey555

joey555

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So im comming from arch street, and what do i see? "Occupy"; the 99% movement, the socialist movement, GLBT rights movement etc. AND THERE IN LIES THE PROBLEM: WHEN DEALING W/ FIGURES LIKE 99%, 1 CANNOT FIX THE OR ADDRESS EVERY ISSUE (ppl. w/ issues about DHS). IT is sloppy logistically, i commend them on galvinizing and trying but w/o leadership & organization w/ a concise message w/ a coomon thread and prioritize from there. it will fall into a state of entropy and the "AMERICAN AUTUAM" will fizzle out if this is not addressed 1st.:wall::fire:


How can ppl. sustain a movement w/o identifying a common thread when dealing w/ figures LIKE 99%??? The movement is in dire need of leadership & organisation. THEY NEED STRUCTURE, compartmentaization.....a fugure head/s , ppl. who can get in where they fit in as far as talents and expertise. If the MEDIA comes @ them w/ questions i would NOT WANT THE GUY 4OFT. AWAY TALKING ABOUT WANTING SOCIALISM representing the aggregate of the movement- yet that is what is happening. RESULT THE MEDIA HAS & WILL CARICATURE THE MOVEMENT AS A BUNCH OF BONGO-PLAYING-POT-SMOKING HIPPIES.
THERE IS A TREMENDOUS LACK of focus- w/ emphasis on WALLSTREET.....yet no focus or grievence about the municiple and state level politicians who have allowed the status quoe. Most of these problems STEM FROM DEMOCRATIC & REPUBLICAN ABUSES OF POWER or MISLEADERSHIP. IN PARTICULIAR, PHILLY is DEMOCRAT, SO FOCUS ON THEM- OR UR RESPECTIVE DISTRICT that is dominated by 1 party. THEY HAVE THE ENERGY but like any spoiled society ignorance rules the day. UNTIL someone like VAN JONES (black political leader) who is helping the NEW YORK MOVEMENT, Philly's movement will FALL INTO ENTROPY!:wall:

HAVING A DEGREE IN POLITICAL SCIENCE I can't help but identify the flaws and try and form consensus, organize, and have a figure head/s. this movemnet is sevrely lacking in many ways. best wishes............joey
 
joey555

joey555

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want real change u start logically; w/ a clear concise premise that is both VALID and SOUND (there is a difference, if 1 took argumentative logic), once the common thread is identified u then prioritize w/ the general assembly. need to compartmentalize i.e. a group who is responsible for the media, the symbols and posters, the communications, sanitation etc.

suc-committee's need to be developed to adress differing agendas....w/ priority in mind. there is so much missing and attention span appears short.
 
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NoDrama

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The list of grievances is so long that it is hard for everyone to have a single solitary goal.

Most don't realize that the majority of the problems are caused by the Federal Reserve. End the Fed should be the goal, but most people have no idea how the banking system really works and therefore can't see the root of the problem.
 
dukeanthony

dukeanthony

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NoDrama said:
The list of grievances is so long that it is hard for everyone to have a single solitary goal.

Most don't realize that the majority of the problems are caused by the Federal Reserve. End the Fed should be the goal, but most people have no idea how the banking system really works and therefore can't see the root of the problem.
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Becuase Like Farrakhan says
No Drama Agrees
and ROn Paul Advocates

ITS RUN BY JEWS!!!
 
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NoDrama

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dukeanthony said:
ITS RUN BY JEWS!!!
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Dude, you really should stop trolling every post. We all know you make lies up on the spot, have no direction, are clueless about 99% of every topic that comes up and your only argument for every subject is "You are a racist". its so fucking old.
 
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silasraven

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joey555 said:
So im comming from arch street, and what do i see? "Occupy"; the 99% movement, the socialist movement, GLBT rights movement etc. AND THERE IN LIES THE PROBLEM: WHEN DEALING W/ FIGURES LIKE 99%, 1 CANNOT FIX THE OR ADDRESS EVERY ISSUE (ppl. w/ issues about DHS). IT is sloppy logistically, i commend them on galvinizing and trying but w/o leadership & organization w/ a concise message w/ a coomon thread and prioritize from there. it will fall into a state of entropy and the "AMERICAN AUTUAM" will fizzle out if this is not addressed 1st.:wall::fire:


How can ppl. sustain a movement w/o identifying a common thread when dealing w/ figures LIKE 99%??? The movement is in dire need of leadership & organisation. THEY NEED STRUCTURE, compartmentaization.....a fugure head/s , ppl. who can get in where they fit in as far as talents and expertise. If the MEDIA comes @ them w/ questions i would NOT WANT THE GUY 4OFT. AWAY TALKING ABOUT WANTING SOCIALISM representing the aggregate of the movement- yet that is what is happening. RESULT THE MEDIA HAS & WILL CARICATURE THE MOVEMENT AS A BUNCH OF BONGO-PLAYING-POT-SMOKING HIPPIES.
THERE IS A TREMENDOUS LACK of focus- w/ emphasis on WALLSTREET.....yet no focus or grievence about the municiple and state level politicians who have allowed the status quoe. Most of these problems STEM FROM DEMOCRATIC & REPUBLICAN ABUSES OF POWER or MISLEADERSHIP. IN PARTICULIAR, PHILLY is DEMOCRAT, SO FOCUS ON THEM- OR UR RESPECTIVE DISTRICT that is dominated by 1 party. THEY HAVE THE ENERGY but like any spoiled society ignorance rules the day. UNTIL someone like VAN JONES (black political leader) who is helping the NEW YORK MOVEMENT, Philly's movement will FALL INTO ENTROPY!:wall:

HAVING A DEGREE IN POLITICAL SCIENCE I can't help but identify the flaws and try and form consensus, organize, and have a figure head/s. this movemnet is sevrely lacking in many ways. best wishes............joey
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because the movement started as a multi issue protest. there is no one problem. they are taking years worth of wrong and putting it all in perspective.
 
dukeanthony

dukeanthony

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NoDrama said:
LOL, Duke, you must be the one all the idiots and morons refer to as the imbecile. Can you quote the post where I said Farrakhan was right?
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NoDrama said:
If you only watched bits and pieces then it is impossible for you to say a majority of it was Lies. You have to actually watch the whole thing, then find a point he made that supposedly wasn't true and bring evidence or a argument about WHY it isn't true. Just saying "oh he is a racist" doesn't negate any facts at all.


edit: And I might add that the reason he makes it known that Rothschild was Jewish was so the fact that Rothschild loaned money to HITLER had a bit more impact.
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Yeah I guess i can
 
joey555

joey555

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silasraven said:
because the movement started as a multi issue protest. there is no one problem. they are taking years worth of wrong and putting it all in perspective.
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I NEVER SAID THERE WAS 1 PROBLEM; I SAID FIND THE COMMON THREAD, IWO, FIND A COMMON GOAL......THEN PRIORITIZE AS U GO. i.e economic and income disparity, then education etc.

there taking years worth of wrong and don't KNOW HOW TO ARTICULATE AND BE LOGISTICAL....IN THE END IT BECOMES A COLLAGE OF OF CONFUSING THOUGHT PROCEESES. it's counter-productive.
 
joey555

joey555

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NoDrama said:
The list of grievances is so long that it is hard for everyone to have a single solitary goal.

Most don't realize that the majority of the problems are caused by the Federal Reserve. End the Fed should be the goal, but most people have no idea how the banking system really works and therefore can't see the root of the problem.
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yes and they also deal w/ monetary policy. the government is in charge( CONGRESS UNDER ART.1 SECTION 8 FEDERAL CONDTITUTION) of fiscal policy. just as there is "shared sacrifice" to be made there is SHARED RESPONSIBILITY as well. the fedarl rserve is NOT a government entity. can it be prt. of the problem yes.......majority no. u have unelected officials; REGULATORS who use this as a revolving door. regulators become lobbiest b/c they know the ins & out. and lobbiest become regulators to push their indutry's angeda thru.

plus, and this is redundant, politicians on all levels of governement neeed to be held accountable. i.e like democrats in PHILLY who support a law on the PA. constitution that funds public school thru property tax. it's a systematic attempt to recycle a lower income strata. if u wish i will explin more. but that is going off topic.


 
joey555

joey555

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"when you turn on politics, politics willturn on you"- NADER.

`the movment is logistically on the ground in phiily....but the message, blame or who to target politically, and the movement- in order to achieve it's end is o closer then it was in the begining.

garbage in, garbage out! Americans mostly are apathetic, jaded, and spoiled.

this movment still lacks leadership....since when was that an ugly word? they have used other euphamisims....like pr. ppl. etc. if they don't like the word leader/s how about a panel of figure heads. w/o leadrship what do u have? anarchy. entropy!

[video=youtube;DEbZqvMu2cQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEbZqvMu2cQ&feature=related[/video] - thats what this country gets for electing someone they rther have a beer w/ .plus the electoral college and super delagates need to be changed.



[video=youtube;eKgPY1adc0A]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A&feature=related[/video]

i tell the 99%ers if u want to change the interior of a house...u have to get in. that is where the TEA-party succeeded....they got in scottt brown, BACHMANN, etc. they need to get ppl. in office in there respective districts, councilmen/women, bi-cameral state legislators. technicality is not hard....start by filling a request of info to clerk of quarter sessions about a councilperson's voting record and funding etc.
 
LD25Delta9

LD25Delta9

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You guys really should look at the 2nd Zeitgeist video... It completely deconstructs the Fed and how our whole monetary system works. Quick generalized truth: America is born and needs money. Along come the Fed and their reserve of monies and says to the money-less government, "We'll create your currency and print you $1 mil, but you owe us $1.25 mil in return." So the newly named Fed prints up that money to the tune of $1 mil. and hands it over to our government whilst the Man writes up an IOU. The problem with this is that for money to have tangible value, it must be printed... anyone see the problem yet? If only $1 mil exists in tangible printed money, where does the other $.25 mil come from to pay the Fed back? We have to go back to the Fed to have them print it to make it exist! See the viscous circle yet? Money is debt...
 
dukeanthony

dukeanthony

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LD25Delta9 said:
You guys really should look at the 2nd Zeitgeist video.....
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Zeitgeist: The Movie is a 2007 documentary film by Peter Joseph. It asserts a number of conspiracy theory-based ideas, including the Christ myth theory, alternative theories for the parties responsible for the September 11 attacks in 2001 and that bankers manipulate the international monetary system and the media in order to consolidate power.
The film was released online on June 18, 2007, on zeitgeistmovie.com.[1] While the film has been praised by some for being "compellingly edited", it has also been criticized for factual inaccuracies, and the quality of its arguments, with critics describing it as "agitprop" and "propaganda
 
LD25Delta9

LD25Delta9

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Here, too, huh? You can post as many wiki dox as you want. It doesn't change the fact that those critics work for the corrupt media corporations the Fed and it's constituents control. Of which, I'm starting to question whether or not you work for, too... You really are blind. Either that or an ass-hat. My vote stays with ass-hat for now... Until you show some real cognitive thought process, that is.
 
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