The 99%- occupy movement- lacking focus and organisation!

LD, I HOPE U AREN'T INSULTING ME! idk if LD = means learning disability or not....but the reserve is nothing NEW. WOW what a shock. BUT THAT IS MONETARY POLICY. fiscal policy is also how u raise money to pay back. UNDER ARTICLE 1 SECTION 8. congress is obligated to adjust, allot, increase, decrease tax or revenue enhancement.

there are a lot of things at work. but insulting me is not 1 of them, i have a thicker exterior. plus i KNOW MY discipline w/ supreme confidence.

best wishes....btw im familiar w/ Zeitgeist.

joey

LD- I HOPE U WEREN'T INSULTING ME. b/c i have a thicker exterior then that.

idk what LD= MEANS? MAYBE LEARNING DISABILITY.

thats old hat> the reserve, we all know that...nothing new. but that IS MONETARY POLICY. pay it back W/ FISCAL POLICY.....under ARTICLE 1 SECTION 8 of THE U.S. constitution the congress is obligated to collect, adjust, increase, decrease tax or revenue enhancements.

i KNOW MY DISCIPLINE very well...btw im familiar w/ Zeitgeist.

there is more at work then all that we are trying to sum up> myself included. but what don't work is insults........to take u seriously is to make SOMETHING SERIOIUS OUT IF U!

BEST WISHES .....JOEY

There was no insult implied by any means joey. I'm not too sure why you thought so, either... I was simply adding to the conversation. I would like to know, though, why so quick to resort to name-calling? If you must know LD25 was the first synthesis of D-Lysergic Acid Diethlyamide created by Albert Hoffman in 1938. This substance is what has become known as LSD. To finish my moniker, I resorted to the beginning of what is known as the long form of THC: Delta-9 Tetrahydracannibinol. I, unlike duke, didn't need to wiki that info, either... kinda throws the whole Learning Disabled thing out the window, dontcha think?

ld25delta9 said:

there was no insult implied by any means joey. I'm not too sure why you thought so, either... I was simply adding to the conversation. I would like to know, though, why so quick to resort to name-calling? If you must know ld25 was the first synthesis of d-lysergic acid diethlyamide created by albert hoffman in 1938. This substance is what has become known as lsd. To finish my moniker, i resorted to the beginning of what is known as the long form of thc: Delta-9 tetrahydracannibinol. I, unlike duke, didn't need to wiki that info, either... Kinda throws the whole learning disabled thing out the window, dontcha think?

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ld i owe u a big apology!

LD25Delta9 said:

There was no insult implied by any means joey. I'm not too sure why you thought so, either... I was simply adding to the conversation. I would like to know, though, why so quick to resort to name-calling? If you must know LD25 was the first synthesis of D-Lysergic Acid Diethlyamide created by Albert Hoffman in 1938. This substance is what has become known as LSD. To finish my moniker, I resorted to the beginning of what is known as the long form of THC: Delta-9 Tetrahydracannibinol. I, unlike duke, didn't need to wiki that info, either... kinda throws the whole Learning Disabled thing out the window, dontcha think?

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I liked LSD when i was younger....now just mushrooms and maybe ayahusca, or peyote. LSD is too much at my age now.

i am truely sorry, i thought that reference was for me. my misunderstanding...to make up for it i will +rep u. ok? sorry man.

it's just i thought it was directe at me. DUKE ...lol....he has his opinions and views that i don't always agree w/ too but, honestly, i sometimes reference wiki. because @ times it's too much to dig out my books, so 1 time i used it to get all the court cost & fines FOR THE KOCH BROTHERS.

im not 1 who generally gets my info from the net.

please , i hope u accept my apology....best wishes......joey

Apology accepted!

joey555 said:

HAVING A DEGREE IN POLITICAL SCIENCE I can't help but identify the flaws and try and form consensus, organize, and have a figure head/s. this movemnet is sevrely lacking in many ways. best wishes............joey

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Your school failed you then. Egypt and Tunisia didn't have specific demands in mind when they started protesting, the specifics only came once the protests matured. I'd consider those protests pretty successful. Wouldn't you?

The point of not having specific demands is to increase the base of support. Everyone can come down there for their own reasons without having to necessarily agree with a particular political platform. Once specific demands are made then the opposition can use those positions against the protesters in order to divide and conquer. There will be a time and place for specifics, but that time is not now. Right now is the time where they need to draw as big of a base of support as possible.

So if the white supremacists latch on like they did with the tea party. Then they are welcome?

I think it's for the best that there is no "organization." Whenever somebody takes the reigns they just fuck it all up and twist the message.

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I think it's for the best that there is no "organization." Whenever somebody takes the reigns they just fuck it all up and twist the message.

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Yep. And then opponents will try and divide protesters based on the specifics of the organizers message.

How do you come up with rhetoric to counter a group with no specific demands? You don't, that's how.

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beardo said:

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brilliant. Well done

"Have we invested too much into this enterprise to admit the solution might lie in it's very demise?"

Love that line.

sync0s said:

"Have we invested too much into this enterprise to admit the solution might lie in it's very demise?"

Love that line.

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yes and "if all men were angels there would be no need for government"- Jefferson (i belive, or Adam Smith...i forget )

we need structure, organization, leadership, and government. w/o what do u have? ENTROPY=CHAOS.
yes there needs to be a balance, we want regulation when it clearly helps us, we wanna know our food has been inspected, airline travel is safe, the fire dept. can put out a fire and the cops police the municipality and state. we want regulation when infrastructure is clearly needed.

we just need to employ common $ense. unelected officials like regulators abuse there jobs, the revolving door needs to stop. but to want the NATION to fall is not good. however in our "DECLARATION" JEFFERSON and others clearly stated "in a long train of abuses" and in "states of despotism" ppl. need to rise up and be responsible.

The tree of liberty is watered with the urine of dogs
-dukeanthony

The link below is what the OWS should be about. The document below is on par with the Arab Spring, and would show the rest of the world. That WE as Americans are sick and tired of our own govt pulling the shit they do.


http://veterandefenders.org/DECLARATION-RESTORE-THE-CONSTITUTIONAL-REPUBLIC.pdf

We the people hereby demand
1. The immediate and unconditional orderly resignation of Barack Hussein Obama, II
2. The immediate and unconditional orderly resignation of Joseph R. Biden
In addition to the known fact that the Obama/Biden ticket was advanced by way of fraudulent
representations concerning the constitutional eligibility of Barack Hussein Obama II, under Article II
requirements for the office of President, the Obama/Biden has committed countless crimes against the
U.S. Constitution, our Republican form of government and the American people while in control of the
Executive Branch.
They are not able to do this alone, but with the help and cover of many anti-American players, who have
also acted at odds with their oaths to protect and defend the Constitution, our Republic and the people of
the United States. As a result, these players must be removed from office and held accountable for their
actions as well.
This group includes, but is not limited to the following individuals -
3. The immediate and unconditional orderly resignation of the entire Obama Cabinet, including but
not limited to;
 the White House staff and unelected Czar’s
 Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton
 Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner
 Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta
 Attorney General Eric H. Holder, Jr.
 Interior Secretary Kenneth L. Salazar
 Acting Commerce Secretary Dr. Rebecca M. Blank
 Labor Secretary Hilda L. Solis
 Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius
 Energy Secretary Steven Chu
 Education Secretary Arne Duncan
 Homeland Security Secretary Janet A. Napolitano
 EPA Administrator Lisa P. Jackson
 Office of Management & Budget Director Jacob J. Lew
 UN Ambassador Susan Rice, the entire Council of Economic Advisers
 Supreme Court Justice Elena Kagan
 Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor
 House Speaker John Boehner
 House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi
 Senate Leader Harry Reid
 Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell – all of whom have committed treasonous acts
against the people, the states and the U.S. Constitution.
Further, to reinstate the rule of law and the Law of this Land, the U.S. Constitution and our constitutional
republic

I liked how the leader of the 99%s for one of the protests was Michael Moore - A top tier 1%er worth 50 million. Funny funny misguided people.

Gastanker said:

I liked how the leader of the 99%s for one of the protests was Michael Moore - A top tier 1%er worth 50 million. Funny funny misguided people.

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so what? Does it mean if you are a 1%er that you are evil and do not deserve the money? Did every person who became successful steal and deceive others to get all their money?