patients and caregiver reality check

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hic

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One thing that came to mind this morning was this... 5 years ago all of your mind-sets were at "overgrow the world" and now you say "don't grow too much"?

It seems as though your little stir of fear over the overages is indeed one of the crooked caregiver selling points. Also the proclaimation of growing weed to be rocket science.

I am sorry again if my sense of authority over the whole subject pisses some of you off.. but then again it is not like I needed to assume authority by asking any of you for it.
 

probo24

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Just a few thoughts.
While you're busy insulting everyone on the forums, you may want to think about something.
Most growers don't give a shit about what you do, or what your self proclaimed expert opinion on
michigans marijuana law is. Grow all you want, where ever you want as far as i'm concerned. Just don't try to advise me on
the law, after reading this thread believe me, i don't want or need your opinion on it.
The people you need to worry about, well obviously you don't have to worry, but those of us patients, and or caregivers
not as bathed in legality by our plastic card as you seem to think you are. We have to worry about the 25-30 people in the minority
who sign a petition, and give 7 people on a city council the power to, at the very least ignore parts of, or the law as a whole.
Save some of your venom for those still fighting hard to take away this law. Instead of insulting people who rather than "spread fear" as
you put it, may actually just respect and abide by the law.
You on the other hand come of as bragging about "wink" "wink" being legal.
Other than the weed you may or may not supply a patient, i find nothing legal about your plans for whatever meds left over that you're not giving that patient. You're not even legal in states eyes to smoke your own product.
 

hic

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probo24 - here are some thoughts

you are just like the others. take a fucking microscope to the law too. and when your done with it stick it in your ass. I can also tell you I will never see as many asses as you have kissed to get you were you are today!

I bring to the table a spark from the other side you seem not to like at all..I am sorry you feel you are the next one that feels like he has the authority to whine about my ways.. thanks for sharing.

I am sorry that we do not all have the ability to grow marijuana, but still we should not let people like you and your great city council lead the way

and remember probo- only you mind the med-grow part of it.. because yes I do what I want and it is not all legal. that is why it is very important to keep it about the med-grow.. Because I am sure the other shit I do will blow your mind.. and is not meant for you

k
 

hic

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Well seeing as I am being attacked -LOL. I will make another observation

The only reason most of you care about the law so much anyway... Is so that you are damn certain you have as many plants as possible packed in them rooms. You guys can bash me all you want but when someone hears the truth.. they know it's the truth.. so someone has got to tell them or they will just hear your side of the story and believe that to be the "way"

nothing personal boys but a man's gotta live for something- and this is mine
 

deprave

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probo24 - here are some thoughts

you are just like the others. take a fucking microscope to the law too. and when your done with it stick it in your ass. I can also tell you I will never see as many asses as you have kissed to get you were you are today!

I bring to the table a spark from the other side you seem not to like at all..I am sorry you feel you are the next one that feels like he has the authority to whine about my ways.. thanks for sharing.

I am sorry that we do not all have the ability to grow marijuana, but still we should not let people like you and your great city council lead the way

and remember probo- only you mind the med-grow part of it.. because yes I do what I want and it is not all legal. that is why it is very important to keep it about the med-grow.. Because I am sure the other shit I do will blow your mind.. and is not meant for you

k
no its not about overgrowing the earth this is an entirely separate subject from our passion for cannabis, this is you crying out for feedback and advise on your "plans" in a public forums ( at least i appeared to be but apparently its just an insane rant), we care about the law cause we dont want to end up in prison - bending a few law is one thing - admitting to it on a public forums is another - advising someone else to break the law on public forums is something on a whole new level - sure its incredibly anonymous but that is beside the point - your thread is here and it appears to be asking for legal advise initially? my intention was to give you appropriate advise fitting within the context of this thread as for all we know you could be some young kid thats going to get himself in trouble and point at this very thread. Keep in mind one thing, you can't delete your post here ever. -So what do you expect from this post Really? - I figured you wanted some advise and I gave you the most sound advise I could in a friendly tone that included compliments for you and you got defensive, ignore everything thing I wrote, and then attempt to derail it by throwing out weak insults at me and others! LOL - It is obvious that you dont want an intelligent discussion but what you want is someone to argue with.

Well I for one am done giving you advise but I will stick around to witness the rest of your insane ranting, I will be taking bets for how many pages this goes on for, I got 2 power kush nugs on 13 pages.
 

kindone

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I'm with you deprave, I'm gonna keep watching just for the entertainment value of hic making an ass of himself. I will put 2 #18 nugs on 18 pages.
 

guy incognito

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From what I understand, the general consensus on the MI forums seems to be that a caregiver may have five patients as well as grow for themselves (72 plants total and 15 oz dried medicine). Please correct me if I am mistaken.
It was my understanding that if you are your own caregiver you occupy one of your available patient slots. If you are NOT a patient, you may be caregiver for 5 patients. If you are a patient and a caregiver you can only supply 4 patients in addition to yourself.

(d) The department shall issue a registry identification card to the primary caregiver, if any, who is named in a qualifying patient's approved application; provided that each qualifying patient can have no more than 1 primary caregiver, and a primary caregiver may assist no more than 5 qualifying patients with their medical use of marihuana.
 

hic

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yeah I know. I will be a patient soon enough. However you wanna look at it I have never bowed down to a law that was not and could not justified in the first place, I was given god given rights.

I simply have a use for your laws now? - is all.
 

hic

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no its not about overgrowing the earth this is an entirely separate subject from our passion for cannabis, this is you crying out for feedback and advise on your "plans" in a public forums ( at least i appeared to be but apparently its just an insane rant), we care about the law cause we dont want to end up in prison - bending a few law is one thing - admitting to it on a public forums is another - advising someone else to break the law on public forums is something on a whole new level - sure its incredibly anonymous but that is beside the point - your thread is here and it appears to be asking for legal advise initially? my intention was to give you appropriate advise fitting within the context of this thread as for all we know you could be some young kid thats going to get himself in trouble and point at this very thread. Keep in mind one thing, you can't delete your post here ever. -So what do you expect from this post Really? - I figured you wanted some advise and I gave you the most sound advise I could in a friendly tone that included compliments for you and you got defensive, ignore everything thing I wrote, and then attempt to derail it by throwing out weak insults at me and others! LOL - It is obvious that you dont want an intelligent discussion but what you want is someone to argue with.

Well I for one am done giving you advise but I will stick around to witness the rest of your insane ranting, I will be taking bets for how many pages this goes on for, I got 2 power kush nugs on 13 pages.

yea I know... I am a worthless worthless person. I am sorry that you would think I came to the forums looking for advise, I did not. I am glad you find my insane ideas so far out there you call them insane, It truley brings me happiness to bring others joy.

I have a half pound says it goes longer then 13 pages.. 2 nuggets? go home.

And why the hell would I ever have reasons to delete any of my post? To make you guys look good? na the post can stay till the internet is no longer used
 

hic

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What kind of legal outdoor faculty will you be growing in Hic?

Just curious

Hey you are the fist one outside the box !! all the other retarts don't even think it is humanly possible!

O.K. you build your structure so that is able to be locked and secured. Normally walls are built with walls and siding, but they have clear panels you can buy that are clear.

Build your building like a pole barn or shed instead of having color panel put on it. Build it with the clear panels. Even the roof! They have roofing- that will pass greenhouse grade.. You might wanna shop around for roofing panels. " you wanna make sure that light get in so check the specs"

You are going to hear alot of whinners on this one but I assure you check with your local ordinance - This building will fall under agriculture thus giving you le-way on many issues.

I also will assure you due to the fact my whole family builds. The materials I speak of will pass all codes.. If they did not menards or home depot would not sell them.

I can go into more detail if you would like.. But I know if you go online and do some looking... it will all pan out! - you may have to build your walls up to 4 feet before appying see-through panel " check your ordancies real good"

You are only at the mercy of township ordinance and that is it! You have to put posts in the ground to keep it secure too, just so you know.
 

hic

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Fluxcap - there are many options to go over once in-fact you don't have that "mindset" of it can't be done. There are so many things you could do or use. Mine is just an example of truley how easy it can be.
 

probo24

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yeah I know. I will be a patient soon enough. However you wanna look at it I have never bowed down to a law that was not and could not justified in the first place, I was given god given rights.

I simply have a use for your laws now? - is all.
Please enlighten us as to what this post is supposed to mean?
Apparently, you were given some god given rights by god, although the right to make any sense at all
was not bestowed upon thee.
 

Fluxcap

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Pretty cool, how much do you think the building will cost?

I was thinking about building a hoop house with sturdy walls on both ends, complete with a locking door.
Are you saying that you need a certain grade of material to be legal? Would a hoop house be considered an agricultural structure?
 

hic

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Probo - the objective of this thread is to open peoples eyes and help them utilize their brains to obtain medicine at a reasonable price. I also wanna help out who-ever I can, in the goal of growing their own without the help of caregivers.

I am very sorry that I am hard to follow - I do not disagree with you on that. I do however try to make things as clear as I can and I know that I have to work on how I word things here.

On a lighter note thanks for sharing probo24 - I really do hope we can all get along in the future.
 

Gonzo'dOut71

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everybody just needs to chill and stop hating on the man(OP) He's just a grower like all the rest whos decided to speak out on the bs that revolves around our MI MMJ laws and thats it. And all this talk about "OMG OMG, you can only have 2.5ozs blah blah blah" I find extremly amusing bc ANY grower here is by those standards BREAKING THE LAW bc all of us know that every single time we grow wer go over our limits, hell you would possibly go over the limit growing 1 friggin plant per patient easy. So we all have overages. What we do with them is our business and it doesnt make us(him) any better or less then any of us who decide to sell it off to dispensrires, clubs, other growers, or whoever. Everybody just toke up and cheeeeeeeel sheeesh...
 
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hic

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Pretty cool, how much do you think the building will cost?

I was thinking about building a hoop house with sturdy walls on both ends, complete with a locking door.
Are you saying that you need a certain grade of material to be legal? Would a hoop house be considered an agricultural structure?


Flux - I would recommend following all building codes and township ordinances " they work together".. The main objectives is to get that thing secure, locked, and gets good sunlight inside!.

As to a hoop house I like that idea but that would all depend on your local ordinances take on it. I can tell you one thing, if you have to get a permit for the building you are going to erect - make sure you fill out the permit as to your building being used for agriculture.

Now some people may not even need a permit. It really depends on where you live in the state and how big you plan on building it.

You get going on it Flux and you ain't got no one to help with the labor - let me know. I come free but ya gotta pay for the gas

And as for price I am sure you could build one to get a job done from anywhere between $300 - $100,000,000. A major factor depends on how many permits you need to pull. Also you must think about if any work must be done to the ground before starting. You can put electricity in it if you want but you will not need it.. many many factors for the pricing- Keep it simple, Keep it cheap but not too cheap ya know.
 
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