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simpsonsampson420

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Sampson, or anyone out there ever heard of Dinafem? I received a Dinafem widow bean (freebie w/ my order), and from the name I am assuming it's a fem. However, I would LOVE to be certain. Spent alot o' $$ makin sure that there is a zero percentage of Y chromosones.

Any feedback would be appreciated!

Also Sampson, I gotta another freebie that is UFO's LA Woman, Sounds super sexy from the reviews I've read, but she's not a fem.

With my newbness factor, I am leaning toward just not trying for a few runs, just to ensure that I don't jack anything up & pollenate my little ladies. From the post you answered for that other cat, sounds like it is easy to ascertain sex, with ample time before having to worry about pollenation. What would you do?

Keep in mind, it either will essentially go from seedling to SOG, or be a mom. But I guess that won't work. Def. not gonna roll the dice & have 1 of my moms potentially be a dude. THat would eff it all up.

ALright, think I may have just answered my own question bout LA Woman. Sorry to waste space.

But if anyway can hook up some feedback on the Dinafem, that'd be lovely. Thanks a ton!
yes dinafems are all femd seeds...

as far as the la woman seed i say start her.. why not?? lol if you veg long enough you can tell.. and even if you flower you'll know its male long before any issues can arise...



sorry havent replied for a while but u no i wont get disscuraged if i have a bad harvest just like an eith would b good from a bag seed soil with no nutes i mean any thing getts me :eyesmoke: im good u no and ima get sum blueberry seeds and ima grow that with better lighting
right on bro... something is better than nothing right?

blueberry is a good strain...
 

showhard2handle

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yes dinafems are all femd seeds...

as far as the la woman seed i say start her.. why not?? lol if you veg long enough you can tell.. and even if you flower you'll know its male long before any issues can arise...





right on bro... something is better than nothing right?

blueberry is a good strain...

Preesh the confirmation homey.

Photo girls are having an extremely high rate of germ. success. I for real would (IMHO of course), start tellin people that method instead of paper towels.

Who knows, mybe paper towels are better, but my luck straight sux dude. And if I get this good a results, I think its a winner for sure (straight into cubes soaked in Root 66 & Sugar Daddy), then straight under 24/0 lights.

ANyway, just super pumped that phase 2 of my plan is well underway.

Ok, the autos. Homey they are straight blowin up dude. For real, I am runnng out of room in my little ass tent.

Granted, I have it (v-drip) propped up on a plastic strongbox & have the light as high as I can get it, and they are crammin up under that baby.

Used some hemp twine to tie down some of the larger monsters (all things considered, I am fukn thrilled to have this "problem", specially considerin my luck again). For real dude, far surpassed my expectations (knock on wood). Transitioning beautifully to the flower nutes. PPMs are solid. Love my resipe for success too.

I would say the tallest ladies are 24-30", and the smallest are 12-15". All white russians & ak's, any guess as to yield from your vast experience would be dope.

Alright, sorry for goin on there, just super pumped bout evthing, & you are a huge contributing factor my friend.

Thanks foe ev-thing, lemme know ur guesses dude!
 

boseke420

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yes dinafems are all femd seeds...

as far as the la woman seed i say start her.. why not?? lol if you veg long enough you can tell.. and even if you flower you'll know its male long before any issues can arise...





right on bro... something is better than nothing right?

blueberry is a good strain...
yea what i heard ima get em from a friend lol i need to get like 6 42wcfls goin lol:joint::hump:
 

showhard2handle

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Man I hope this is a really dumb question, but could you look at the pics?

This is the tallest, and the one with the pre-flower i asked ya about. But man these types flowers (if thats what they are, are totally unlike any of the rest that are the a typical nodgies.

WHats the deal, if this is a dude i'll trip.

Please advise doc & thanks as always!

again, i am sorry if this is stupid, i hope this is stupid quite frankly, just gotta be sure.

thx homey
 

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Well fuckin' A then! Thought maybe there was some RUI decorum. I know you're busy but did you read my post about the soil pH problems? Just currious. It was the one before the one you responded to. I did transplant into larger pots with better soil and the girls are much happier. I'm definately seeing the two little pre-flower pistils so will be kicking it into flower soon. Also managed to run a 20amp circuit from the main panel (without killing my sorry ass) to support two new 1000 watters with electronic ballasts. Supposed to be more efficient? Plus that humming and the extra heat was really starting to drive me fucking crazy. No heat problems from the lamps yet because Denver's been cold. Have a six inch inline fan and accessories ready just in case. Anyway, glad you had that killer harvest! Later!
 

simpsonsampson420

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Preesh the confirmation homey.

Photo girls are having an extremely high rate of germ. success. I for real would (IMHO of course), start tellin people that method instead of paper towels.

Who knows, mybe paper towels are better, but my luck straight sux dude. And if I get this good a results, I think its a winner for sure (straight into cubes soaked in Root 66 & Sugar Daddy), then straight under 24/0 lights.

ANyway, just super pumped that phase 2 of my plan is well underway.

Ok, the autos. Homey they are straight blowin up dude. For real, I am runnng out of room in my little ass tent.

Granted, I have it (v-drip) propped up on a plastic strongbox & have the light as high as I can get it, and they are crammin up under that baby.

Used some hemp twine to tie down some of the larger monsters (all things considered, I am fukn thrilled to have this "problem", specially considerin my luck again). For real dude, far surpassed my expectations (knock on wood). Transitioning beautifully to the flower nutes. PPMs are solid. Love my resipe for success too.

I would say the tallest ladies are 24-30", and the smallest are 12-15". All white russians & ak's, any guess as to yield from your vast experience would be dope.

Alright, sorry for goin on there, just super pumped bout evthing, & you are a huge contributing factor my friend.

Thanks foe ev-thing, lemme know ur guesses dude!
still cant give an estimate to weight yet.. give it a few more weeks and ill give ya a guess..

just keep tieing and seperating... thats all you can do to make room..

yea what i heard ima get em from a friend lol i need to get like 6 42wcfls goin lol:joint::hump:
6 would be decent... give you good results.. or just get 3 75w ones... that would be nice too..

Man I hope this is a really dumb question, but could you look at the pics?

This is the tallest, and the one with the pre-flower i asked ya about. But man these types flowers (if thats what they are, are totally unlike any of the rest that are the a typical nodgies.

WHats the deal, if this is a dude i'll trip.

Please advise doc & thanks as always!

again, i am sorry if this is stupid, i hope this is stupid quite frankly, just gotta be sure.

thx homey
thats a male.. pull it now... be careful not to break open any sacs.. im sure its to early for them to pop yet tho.. look careful after you do pull it for any that may have opened... just in case... do this NOW!!

Well fuckin' A then! Thought maybe there was some RUI decorum. I know you're busy but did you read my post about the soil pH problems? Just currious. It was the one before the one you responded to. I did transplant into larger pots with better soil and the girls are much happier. I'm definately seeing the two little pre-flower pistils so will be kicking it into flower soon. Also managed to run a 20amp circuit from the main panel (without killing my sorry ass) to support two new 1000 watters with electronic ballasts. Supposed to be more efficient? Plus that humming and the extra heat was really starting to drive me fucking crazy. No heat problems from the lamps yet because Denver's been cold. Have a six inch inline fan and accessories ready just in case. Anyway, glad you had that killer harvest! Later!
what was the ph question?? i thought i had answered it.. but i answered it in a different post... just repost it and ill make sure to get to it.. lol

1000s are great as long as you can keep things within temp range... isnt too hard to do tho.. a 6" fan should be able to exhaust them no problem at all...

a 20 amp circuit will wun 2 x 1000w lamps perfectly.. i think together the lights pull 16.5 amps.. which gives you plenty of breathing room..

are you talking about digital ballasts?? they are much more efficient and make no noise at all.. i love them.. have 4 x 1000w ballasts and 2 x 400w ballasts in the same room.. cant hear them at all.. and they cause no interference with any of my electronics...
 

showhard2handle

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thats a male.. pull it now... be careful not to break open any sacs.. im sure its to early for them to pop yet tho.. look careful after you do pull it for any that may have opened... just in case... do this NOW!!

Alright Goose, that bad man is far far away from my girls.

Lemme know if there is any damage control I can do. Or if I am just prayin.

That was the largest of the group. The one that I "thought" had the first flower.

Man Im glad you told me dude.

I have to say since it was the tallest, thats the one that I needed to tie down most. Last night when I moved him, I did see some "dust", which was what prompted me to take the photo & see if they were nutz.

Shoot me straight goose, am I screwed?

If so all good, got all the photos poppin, I'm not gonna kill the zen out this whole deal. Could be worse.

Let me know my best & worst case scenario my man,

Thanks!
 

simpsonsampson420

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alright...... without seeing any pics.. and without you knowing if there were any sacs split open.. it will be hard to tell you the out come...

now..... based on what you said, seeing dust, assuming that dust was yellowish in color, there could be issues.. if that is that case it is pollen which means bad things....

sadly there is nothing that can be done... if thats the case thats the case... and you will have to salvage what you can and break the seeds out... problem is it will likely be not good to smoke at all.. maybe butter... but we cant know unless you do some searching on that male...

i highly suggest when/if you do search over the male to change what you are wearing and wash your hands before going back around the other females... if there are plants that werent pollinated you could carry pollen to them...
 

showhard2handle

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alright...... without seeing any pics.. and without you knowing if there were any sacs split open.. it will be hard to tell you the out come...

now..... based on what you said, seeing dust, assuming that dust was yellowish in color, there could be issues.. if that is that case it is pollen which means bad things....

sadly there is nothing that can be done... if thats the case thats the case... and you will have to salvage what you can and break the seeds out... problem is it will likely be not good to smoke at all.. maybe butter... but we cant know unless you do some searching on that male...

i highly suggest when/if you do search over the male to change what you are wearing and wash your hands before going back around the other females... if there are plants that werent pollinated you could carry pollen to them...
OK, I have the rat bastard outside (far from the girls), I'll get some pics of him tonight & try & get you something to try & make an analysis.

Man I feel like a tool. It's cause I had to boast about how well things were going, HA.

For real, wow, what a pain in the deacon.

Anyway, let's hope & pray that we caught her in time.

I'll get ya pics tonight, lemme know your no BS assessment as always. If ya think they are farked & the final product willnot be viable, I would almost prefer to pull the plug & not waste any more resources on them (power, fan, nutes, etc.) and just focus on the photos, now that I hopefully can ID a fukn male. A serious lesson I'm sure I won't soon forget.

Thanks so much!!!
 

caesar

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short question .male plants, when you harvested them , can you smoke them ?? i know that you wanna have females and all that , and you use the males to polinate females, but can you smoke them and how long does it take to harvest them since you induce the flowering period ??
 

simpsonsampson420

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OK, I have the rat bastard outside (far from the girls), I'll get some pics of him tonight & try & get you something to try & make an analysis.

Man I feel like a tool. It's cause I had to boast about how well things were going, HA.

For real, wow, what a pain in the deacon.

Anyway, let's hope & pray that we caught her in time.

I'll get ya pics tonight, lemme know your no BS assessment as always. If ya think they are farked & the final product willnot be viable, I would almost prefer to pull the plug & not waste any more resources on them (power, fan, nutes, etc.) and just focus on the photos, now that I hopefully can ID a fukn male. A serious lesson I'm sure I won't soon forget.

Thanks so much!!!
once you see a male or have a crop ruined by one you'll never forget what they look like.. thats for sure.. lol ive had the same issue like i said.. im sure most growers have...

basically here is what i will say.. and regardless of what you find out the answers will hold true...

if you dont find any sacs that were broke open (hopefully non broke open since you pulled it.. but look for pollen in the area you have it now to confirm) in the grow room your fine for sure...

if a sac did pop open there is almost 100% positive to be some pollination... there is a chance that the pollen only gets to the branches surrounding where the sac broke.. in which case you'll have some seeds but still have some unseeded flowers...

there is a chance tho the pollen got blown all around inside and then things are bad...

if you look at the females that are left you should be able to tell if they were pollinated.. the pistils in the area of pollination will die off since they have done their job... look for groups of dead pistils to see how bad (which i am hoping its not) things are...

shit happens bro.. even to me.. i lost 3 of my plants i put into flower 3 weeks ago now.. they just up and died... i think i know why, but thats another story.. point being its not always perfect all the time..



short question .male plants, when you harvested them , can you smoke them ?? i know that you wanna have females and all that , and you use the males to polinate females, but can you smoke them and how long does it take to harvest them since you induce the flowering period ??
you dont want to smoke males.. they are harsh and not fun to smoke... you can use them for hash, making butter, or of course pollinating.. but thats about the extent of their uses...

females produce the smokeable stuff...

strains vary on harvest times.. but most are in the 10 week range.. give or take a couple..

Thanks for all the information
your welcome...
 

dakin3d

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Whats up, SS? Just wanted to stop by and drop you a line. HOws the current crop? Have you thrown any new vids on UT lately? I've finally got all of my shit drying. Def had sativa doms... about 11-13 week range on the ladies, but it was worth the wait. They just kept growing and growing, never stopped. Trichs finally ripened the last couple weeks, the calyxes were swollen for a while. Had a very nice yield for the first time, especially considering all the mistakes. Its a viable strain for sure, whatever it is... Its kind of citrus and fuelly smell and taste, pretty well covered in trichs (B+grade), whispy buds (not sure if that's from my 400W lamp or genetics; but I kept the light pretty damn close to the canopy, say 4-6 inches w/o burn. You would think that if it were going to be dense that it would be so at the cola and digress from top to bottom in density, but not so, pretty 'light' buds throughout), good yielder, sensitive to nutrients and shitty soil, some plants turned purple but prob due to temp variation and pheno. It was quite the experience, but I have do say thanks for the input at the time, bro, it was much appreciated. That was the biggest problem I had dealt with throughout this entire grow. It even came back during flowering, but at least I knew the solution to the problem. I realized that my pots were waay too small for the genetics (2 gal pots, 5.5'-6' tall plants) and that I was getting frequent NaCl buildup in the soil due to the size of container vs conc of nutrients. Plus, I was burning them up. The EC meter really opened my eyes. When I initially flushed, 2.6-3.2 EC depending on the plant! They like it at around 1.5 EC or 750 PPM (.5 conversion for my meter).

ANyway, I hope all is well on your end. Thanks again... Cheers, dak
 
what was the ph question?? i thought i had answered it.. but i answered it in a different post... just repost it and ill make sure to get to it.. lol

1000s are great as long as you can keep things within temp range... isnt too hard to do tho.. a 6" fan should be able to exhaust them no problem at all...

a 20 amp circuit will wun 2 x 1000w lamps perfectly.. i think together the lights pull 16.5 amps.. which gives you plenty of breathing room..

are you talking about digital ballasts?? they are much more efficient and make no noise at all.. i love them.. have 4 x 1000w ballasts and 2 x 400w ballasts in the same room.. cant hear them at all.. and they cause no interference with any of my electronics...
Sorry I meant digital ballast. And soil pH question is answered. Guess I mostly wanted to share my mistakes with the other new growers. I actually ended up running two 20amp circuits to some 20amp GFI outlets to be safe. I melted a 15amp outlet earlier and the breaker never tripped because of an under rated extension cord. Stupid stupid stupid. Back to the digital ballast. I bought a 1000w Xtrasun ballast and it had problems. Took it back to my local grow shop and they swapped me a dimmable 1000w plus boost setting Lumatek at no cost! It totally rocks. Won't buy any other kind now. I also learned that hot starting the bulb is bad. Wanted to mention this because in all my reading I had never heard this. Thanks again bro!
 

showhard2handle

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if you look at the females that are left you should be able to tell if they were pollinated.. the pistils in the area of pollination will die off since they have done their job... look for groups of dead pistils to see how bad (which i am hoping its not) things are...

shit happens bro.. even to me.. i lost 3 of my plants i put into flower 3 weeks ago now.. they just up and died... i think i know why, but thats another story.. point being its not always perfect all the time..
Whats up my man, tryin to keep my head on straight & get thru the week with all the dram's happenin with the girls.

I appreciate ur candid advice & prognosis.

If I take some close up shots of the the pistils tonight, could you ID for me? (Or try to).

Not sweatin too badly @ this point. I'm just gonna assume they all got knocked up by that bad bad man, and that way if I am wrong, i;ll just be EXTREMELY pleasently surprised. I do love some gan-jay butta anyway.

I'll just chalk this up to a nasty ass expensive learning experience that will stay with me all my days.

Anyway, I'll get some close ups of the fuzzy's tonight w/ the HPS off.

Thanks for everything goose!
 
I'll just chalk this up to a nasty ass expensive learning experience that will stay with me all my days.
Hey bro I'm not THE MAN just a fellow grower. Sorry about the male. That happened to me once too when I left town for a couple days. I grew them out anyway and they didn't all get pollinated. Only found about six seeds and the rest of the smoke was fine. Of course I'm not suggesting you do that. Follow botha Sam's advice like we all do. Good luck!
 

simpsonsampson420

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Whats up, SS? Just wanted to stop by and drop you a line. HOws the current crop? Have you thrown any new vids on UT lately? I've finally got all of my shit drying. Def had sativa doms... about 11-13 week range on the ladies, but it was worth the wait. They just kept growing and growing, never stopped. Trichs finally ripened the last couple weeks, the calyxes were swollen for a while. Had a very nice yield for the first time, especially considering all the mistakes. Its a viable strain for sure, whatever it is... Its kind of citrus and fuelly smell and taste, pretty well covered in trichs (B+grade), whispy buds (not sure if that's from my 400W lamp or genetics; but I kept the light pretty damn close to the canopy, say 4-6 inches w/o burn. You would think that if it were going to be dense that it would be so at the cola and digress from top to bottom in density, but not so, pretty 'light' buds throughout), good yielder, sensitive to nutrients and shitty soil, some plants turned purple but prob due to temp variation and pheno. It was quite the experience, but I have do say thanks for the input at the time, bro, it was much appreciated. That was the biggest problem I had dealt with throughout this entire grow. It even came back during flowering, but at least I knew the solution to the problem. I realized that my pots were waay too small for the genetics (2 gal pots, 5.5'-6' tall plants) and that I was getting frequent NaCl buildup in the soil due to the size of container vs conc of nutrients. Plus, I was burning them up. The EC meter really opened my eyes. When I initially flushed, 2.6-3.2 EC depending on the plant! They like it at around 1.5 EC or 750 PPM (.5 conversion for my meter).

ANyway, I hope all is well on your end. Thanks again... Cheers, dak

hey bro... so my current crop is doing well... 13 beautiful ladies in flowering... 24 days now... got some seeds and clones going.. waiting on my medium to come in so i can transplant them into their sites...

been enjoying my last harvest... ill post some pics for ya...

havent made any new youtube videos.. prolly post one when i get things all switched over and up and running again.. within a week or two.. just got a nice new camera too for much better pics and video... records in 1080p... very nice...

the fuel smell you describe makes me think it may have some diesel in it somewhere.. it can purp out some... the wispy buds are a nutrient issue during growth.. something wasnt getting processed right.. but from what you said im sure you can understand that... with everything you know now the future should look much brighter.. lol

hope the drying and curing goes well.. if you have any ?s of course feel free to ask... if not let me know how things turn out!!

welll i tried to upload some pics.. it wont let me right now.. ill try again later...
 

simpsonsampson420

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Sorry I meant digital ballast. And soil pH question is answered. Guess I mostly wanted to share my mistakes with the other new growers. I actually ended up running two 20amp circuits to some 20amp GFI outlets to be safe. I melted a 15amp outlet earlier and the breaker never tripped because of an under rated extension cord. Stupid stupid stupid. Back to the digital ballast. I bought a 1000w Xtrasun ballast and it had problems. Took it back to my local grow shop and they swapped me a dimmable 1000w plus boost setting Lumatek at no cost! It totally rocks. Won't buy any other kind now. I also learned that hot starting the bulb is bad. Wanted to mention this because in all my reading I had never heard this. Thanks again bro!
i love to dimmable ballasts... i keep mine at super lumen setting.. great deal on it tho... thats a damn good trade...

shit happens when doing electrical work you dont think of... i fried a few things before getting it figured out.. got lucky enough to have a best friend who is an electrician help me out after i gave up... lol

Whats up my man, tryin to keep my head on straight & get thru the week with all the dram's happenin with the girls.

I appreciate ur candid advice & prognosis.

If I take some close up shots of the the pistils tonight, could you ID for me? (Or try to).

Not sweatin too badly @ this point. I'm just gonna assume they all got knocked up by that bad bad man, and that way if I am wrong, i;ll just be EXTREMELY pleasently surprised. I do love some gan-jay butta anyway.

I'll just chalk this up to a nasty ass expensive learning experience that will stay with me all my days.

Anyway, I'll get some close ups of the fuzzy's tonight w/ the HPS off.

Thanks for everything goose!
i might be able to tell from some pics of the pistils.. try to take them from around the area that you saw the dust you said you saw...

if it did happen it is unfortunate.. but at least your walking away with the knowledge that you can grow... and grow well... so at least you got that right??

hopefully all turns out well..

Hey bro I'm not THE MAN just a fellow grower. Sorry about the male. That happened to me once too when I left town for a couple days. I grew them out anyway and they didn't all get pollinated. Only found about six seeds and the rest of the smoke was fine. Of course I'm not suggesting you do that. Follow botha Sam's advice like we all do. Good luck!
wow bro.. you are lucky!! only 6 seeds?!?! thats great that it wasnt any worse than that... when it happened to me i wasnt near as lucky at all... pretty much lost 70% of my crop.. but of course when it happened to me the male just happened to be in front of an oscilating fan... it just threw the pollen everywhere... :wall::wall::wall:
 

showhard2handle

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Hey bro I'm not THE MAN just a fellow grower. Sorry about the male. That happened to me once too when I left town for a couple days. I grew them out anyway and they didn't all get pollinated. Only found about six seeds and the rest of the smoke was fine. Of course I'm not suggesting you do that. Follow botha Sam's advice like we all do. Good luck!

Right on my man, thanks for the condolences bout my situation. Yeah, pretty fukn sure that Sex will be something I am even more anal retentive than I already am on (pun intenededfor sure).

Nah for real, it is blowin me right now. Feel like a total twerp if i pissed all that flow away.

But sampson had a descent point. I am breaking my cherry here, and @ least I know that I can take care of 'em the way they need (I just drop the fukn ball on the goal line, I'd be lost w/ out some good old self deprecating humor).)

Thanks again for the feedback bro.
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