Flush or not

Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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jebus2029 said:
there are a few "myths" out there about boosting THC at the end too. I say "myths" because I don't know if they are true or not. The first is that starving at the end causes them to produce more THC. The other is putting them into complete darkness for the last few days. Supposedly they both boost THC as a protective measure. Any truth to these? Will the plant produce more THC when things go kinda screwy for her?
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Those would be a NOT.....
Increasing trich production
Use of UVB spectral lighting
Those increase THC levels
 
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BDOGKush said:
I've read the same things being applied to terpene production instead of THC production.

I've tested the 3 days of darkness before harvest and noticed no discernible difference in smell, taste or potency.
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The use of increased Mg and S will increase flavors by an increase in terp production.....Profile changes recorded by testing from Iron labs....
BTW,,,,The boys at Iron labs can tell you basically what you use to feed by the profiles in testing......And before this leads to the question.....NO, flushing has just about 0 effect on the profile if tested as CURED!
 
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Dr. Who

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jebus2029 said:
I wouldn't be so quick to say that. There have been tests that prove stress will boost THC in a plant. At least there were half a decade ago. New studies may have come out since then. In the wine industry there is a saying "a stressed vine makes great wine." Vineyards want minimal water throughout the year. A vine that is kept thirsty has less water in the grape, causing a higher brix (sugar content), and stronger concentration of terpenes and the such. So maybe stressing a cannabis plant can have a similar effect. We know that cold near the end will cause the chlorophyll to break down turning it purple and being less harsh when smoked. This is considered a stress. So I am sure there are other techniques out there that cause beneficial stress to a plant. What's one of the reasons for fans? To cause microtears in the stem fibers which cause them to build up stronger and thicker. It's like a workout for them and the stems are their muscles. I think there are many ways to healthfully stress a plant to get good results back. We just have to figure out what those stresses are and when to apply them.
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More logic....

If the THC increases,,,,,it would be in my opinion that it comes from a increase in trich production and not, an actual increase in potency!

There has been discovered a link between actual potency increase and UVB exposure....You can find that being discussed in 2 different threads on this site right now. That would be considered a stress reaction.
 
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AlphaPhase

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Dr. Who said:
Exactly! Epsom will work for that.
I like the home made "Sweet Raw"....
I use that for the added carbs the plant uses in mid to later flower........
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Is that like a molassas type of feed? Probably not so good in hydro I take it? It's hard to find things that will work with my regimen and system
 
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AlphaPhase said:
Is that like a molassas type of feed? Probably not so good in hydro I take it? It's hard to find things that will work with my regimen and system
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Ah,,,,Hydro.....Yeah your ok with that Sweet......Not enough carbs to start a fermentation or other problem with high carb mix's.
The Botanicare store bought is for all media......I just broke it down to be made at home for 64.00 a gallon less....

Here's the formula.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/forced-thc-production.858937/page-3#post-11454268

Doc
 
AlphaPhase

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Dr. Who said:
Ah,,,,Hydro.....Yeah your ok with that Sweet......Not enough carbs to start a fermentation or other problem with high carb mix's.
The Botanicare store bought is for all media......I just broke it down to be made at home for 64.00 a gallon less....

Here's the formula.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/forced-thc-production.858937/page-3#post-11454268

Doc
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ok cool! I think I might give it a shot, that's easy peasy to make. That's the only thing I lack in my feedings is carbs and I've been to scared to try anything yet, but with only using them for a week or so before harvest not too much can go wrong and if something does it's time to chop anyway :p
 
jebus2029

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There aren't many plants on the earth that get fed the way we feed cannabis. Maybe that is why flushing is necessary.
 
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I start it's use at 2 weeks before the flip with 10ml per gal.
Up to 15ml at 2
up again to 20 at 4 and run it out......All media's
 
AlphaPhase

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jebus2029 said:
There aren't many plants on the earth that get fed the way we feed cannabis. Maybe that is why flushing is necessary.
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Yes there are people that use quite the combo of nutes to feed their plants. I agree with that. Like the advanced nutients fans. The thing is when you have to use 7 different nutrients, it's because the nutrient companies are ripping people off. Those 7 different bottles of nutes = 1 bottle of a cheap base nutrient like dynagro. I only use 3 things for my whole grow. A base nute, silica, epsom salts. That's really all you need for a successful grow. It's funny when people use 10 bottles of nutes and their plants look terrible. Spending all that money for no good reason is beyond me. You can buy a $15 base nute and use that only and be completely successful at growing (and it's the same nutes all vegetables are grown with)

These are grown with the combo I mentioned above.

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Dr. Who

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jebus2029 said:
I'm trying to encourage thought. What are you doing?
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Maybe because I've thought about it longer. AND I 've seen this same question to many times go to damn long....
I tried to find a difference to make flushing rite.. Years ago....Guess what? Couldn't find it.....The proper Cure wins every time vs. reduced yields and increased drying time.....(ok, that is the far end of my testing scale but, it's still NO difference IF properly CURED.)
 
Dr. Who

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Ok. BOTTOM LINE>
I never said don't flush.
Only that you don't have to. AND why.
Please, DO what makes YOU happy.
But don't come on here and goat people on if you haven't read the whole thread. It is full of the answers..

Damn, I'll bet the OP is hiding somewhere looking at this going,,,,"What did I do?"
 
jebus2029

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You mentioned The Rev. He does his TLO style right? I believe he makes his own compost teas, worm castings, and organic composts. I don't think he uses any name brand fertilizers but I might be wrong. If I am correct though this could be why he doesn't need to flush. Maybe the more natural the feed the easier it is on the plant.
 
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Actually I was searching the forum for advice on drying and curing and I came across this thread. Hold on. I'll go read the entire drying/curing section. I'll be back in a few weeks.
 
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az2000

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jebus2029 said:
There aren't many plants on the earth that get fed the way we feed cannabis. Maybe that is why flushing is necessary.
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I feed my plants in what seems like a normal way. Inexpensive dry nutes (Grow More Sea Grow). Some fish emulsion, fulvic acid and 1/8tsp/gal molasses to encourage soil activity.

I think what you meant is, "there aren't many plants on earth that have so many boutique nutrients to make it seem like the plant is unusual."
 
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