Yeah! It's Bud Worm Season. Pics

odbsmydog

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anyone have any experience using spinosad to prevent caterpillers? its all i have and i dont want to have to buy bt if i dont need too...
 

Mountainfarmer

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This past monday I went out to my patch and noticed that one of my plants was not looking to hot. Upon further inspection I noticed that the plants had bud worms. After the initial panic I went down to my local hydro store and bought some BT. $25.00/8 o.z. bottle. Fucking rip off. I just found some online for $11.22. w/ free shipping. Anyway, my question for all who are experienced with using BT is: How long after using do you start to see dead catepillars? Another question I have is has anyone ever used moth balls for control? The reason I am asking is cause I used moth balls early in the season to ward off small rodents and deer. During that time I did not have any problems with moths, worms, or catepillars. peace
 

Nugz209

Member
Your way better off using "Safer Caterpillar Killer," its organic and the bottle lasts a while, down side is it last only for 2-5 days before needing sprayed again. ( in case your not close to your plants) Its safe to use on vegetables up to the day of harvesting. I used it last year with great results and no left over flavor or ill effects to my ladies.
 

Mountainfarmer

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View attachment 1121576here it is chowing down!!!
Chowing down on your buds at this very moment. At least their chowing down on mine. I hit them with some with some BT this evening.

I have a question or two for those who have used BT in the past. Does it effect the quality of the weed. (Taste, Buzz....) And is it really safe for smoking. How long do you have to wait after spraying before you harvest. I've been using BT on my garden for decades without any problems but I always wash the food I grow before I eat it. But I'd have to be crazy to wash my weed before smoking it. Though I could give it a little spray down a few days before harvest. Any suggestions?

Here's some pics of my two plants progress. You can see the damage done to one of the buds and one of our crawly little pests.

If anyone has any idea of the strains I'm growing I'd sure like to know.
 

pabloesqobar

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Mountainfarmer, I believe mothballs are highly toxic. Not something you want around your plants. I've used BT and smoked bud from plants that were sprayed with BT - and from some that were not. I can't tell any difference. And yes, Veggiegardner explains the benefits of rinsing your plants down prior to harvest, a few pages back I believe. In any event, BT should dissipate and be gone from your bud as a result of being exposed to the outdoor elements: wind, air, sun, etc. I'd stop using it around 2 weeks prior to harvest. Unless conditions demand you spray again 1 week prior to harvest.

Oh, that link you attached doesn't work. Best of luck!
 

veggiegardener

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My bad on the amount of Bt per gallon. Stronger solutions work, but I apparently had a brain fart, regarding what's recommended. Thanks for the corrections.
 

pabloesqobar

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My bad on the amount of Bt per gallon. Stronger solutions work, but I apparently had a brain fart, regarding what's recommended. Thanks for the corrections.
I've been going by the directions that came with my BT, which says to use 4 teaspoons per gallon. That works out to .5 teaspoon for my 16 ounce spray bottle. Hopefully I haven't been using 4x more than needed.
 

whietiger88101

New Member
you can go down and buy a pest sticky traps in circle your bottom brachs with one and make sure it touches the ground were the bugs try to crawl up onto you plant. come on now you do not want them bugs on your buds !
 

veggiegardener

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you can go down and buy a pest sticky traps in circle your bottom brachs with one and make sure it touches the ground were the bugs try to crawl up onto you plant. come on now you do not want them bugs on your buds !
So how does this apply to caterpillars whose eggs are laid in the top of the plant, and don't touch the ground until they are ready to become a cocoon?

I've used tanglefoot and sticky traps. Mostly an expensive waste of time.
 

Mountainfarmer

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Good morning RIU, I would like to say BT works. I sprayed one application (2 teaspoons/gallon) on wenesday and on by friday I started seeing little dried up black caterpillars. BT is a beautiful thing. I have also been picking through each plant and manually removing caterpillars with a pair of long tweezers. Tonight I will spray another application of BT. One thing I noticed was that while picking through the plants, 99% of the caterpillars are tiny, like 3/16 of an inch. I believe that these are new hatchlings and the BT has killed off most of the larger caterpillars. Another thing I noticed was that I have a population of spiders on the plants. I think these are helping me control the little devils.
 

veggiegardener

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I encourage Spiders throughout my garden. I even catch and put them in my greenhouses. I also keep Black Widows in them in case of night visitors.(Actually, the Black Widows move in with no help from me. The other spiders will eat them if they get too numerous.)
 

zzoomm1000

Active Member
Just curious. Are there a lot of people in the 310 who are battling bud worms?

I have a white widow, 100 feet up in the air on a balcony with nothing on it to ward off insects. Its starting to swell so I'm thinking of taking preventative measures with the BT.

But I haven't seen a bug around it all summer.
 
I found a very small little white caterpillar in one of my buds... I've also found some tiny reddish spiders, I've found and disposed of 3 of these little white guys in the last week... what to do?
 

wheezer

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I'm starting to get the little buggers too dang it! I'm gonna start the BT tomorrow evening. Most of my stuff only look like they're about 3 weeks in, but I just hate spraying anything now. I'm hearing here that I'm safe up to 2 weeks, that will give me plenty of time to work on em'. So far only a couple on 1 plant, and I sprayed organic tea on them all through veg which is supposed to help and I believe it did. Th eplant I found them on was the Super Silver Haze that started budding first, and really only looks about 3 weeks ou tops, but I could let it go longer if I can get the bugs off......Pray for me guys!
 
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