Will planting around Spruce trees fuck up my plants? Advice needed +rep

Cannabis Krew 420

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Ok so the story behind the question is, last year i found a great grow site down the road from my house, its on the edge of a spruce forest where there is a large circular opening where tall grass grows, the spruce are about 15-20 ft tall and hide the plants completely. last year my plants there did great they grew big and looked healthy but the yeild was abit disappointing, the reason for that being they were grown in 3 gallon pots which where way to small for the plant sizes so the roots werent getting enough room to grow. So this year i plant on growin in the same spot but i want the plants directly in the ground this year, to give the roots more room to grow and less time watering. I plan on diggin 3x3 holes because im assuming the soil is really crappy and aciddic from the spruces, then filling them with promix and various organic ferts.

the thing that worries me is that even though id be planting in a good medium will the native soil have any negative effect on my plants? like do conifers ruin soil by making it acidic or what? iv heard alot of things said about conifers by people i consider to be less than reputable so i thought the experts on rui might give me some decent answers. Is there any chance that the acidity or anything else negative could leach into my good soil? what happens if the root systems outgrow my holes and goes into shitty soil will that stunt my plant in any way? should 3x3 holes be big enough to guarantee the safety of my plants of will i have to dig bigger?

Thanks in advance, Im trying to learn everything i can
 

fatality

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i wouldnt plant em directly in the ground by pines, ammended or not, it just seems that like you said, nature would leech the nasties out...... perhaps a bigger pot...say 10 gallon ?
 

Cannabis Krew 420

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yeah im thinking that is what im going to have to do, im sad to say it because i was really hoping to have them directly in the ground to cut down on the maintenance a bit but it only seems logical that the needles would fuck up the soil and that would affect my ammended soil no matter what i do. Im better off safe than sorry anyways right

Anyone on here have particular experiences doing this, any horror stories of it fucking with your plants?
 

Mary I Wanna

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Go check the PH of the soil around the trees... Decomposing pine needles actually release nitrogen back into the soil, wich is good for your plants.. The only issues I can see you having is not enough sunlight.. Wich will make your finished buds leafy and kill your yield.. Kinda like the problem you described last year.
 

rawrfox

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try one in the soil and one in a pot-- bet the soil one does better

im with him man , the bush around here is stuffed with all types of plants....can be a batch of birches/spruces/pines/anythin randomly everywhere haha....im not worryin about any of that shit my babies goin right in the ground haha.
 

karri0n

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Your yield problems were due to a lack of sun, not due to the pots you had them in. If they are surrounded on all sides by spruce trees they are probably only getting at max 4 hours of direct sun. The plants wouldn't have gotten all that big if they were root bound.

If this is the spot you have to grow, then it's the spot you have to grow. As far as the soil in the ground, I think they will do better in the ground than in pots, especially if you are amending the soil.
 

DrGreenthumb333

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Guys im proud to say i know a trick to planting near pines and spruces...you hit the nail right on the head cannabis krew the soil is very acidy from the trees needles dropping on the ground and decomposing into the soil...needless to say it makes the soils pH very low. What you need to do is amend your soil with pulverized lime...to do this you must clear a big area of pine or spruce needles say a 5 x 5 area and till the soil a bit with a hoe or anything available. After that is completed you spread and mix up the lime into the tilled area, next you must water the area good where you limed, this is because liming dry soil defeats the purpose of what your doing since most lime materials are only slightly soluble in water you must incorporate the water into the soil after liming for it to do its job and create a reaction to raise the soils pH. Now since the marijuana plant prefers a little bit of an acidy pH in relation to a neutral pH of 7 around 5.5 to 6.5 raising the pH too much could cause problems so do this process with the lime in moderation checking the pH at the beginning so you know what ur working with and frequently checking it throughout the liming to make sure its not to high. Good luck with your plants buddy, the ground is a wonderful thing, if you find a spot in those spruces with great sunlight and you put your girls in the ground with a good pH instead of buckets you will be harvesting heavy this year my friend!

- Dr. Green-Thumb "Doogle's"

 
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