Listen medicine, Maybe you are on the fronlines fighting against all this, but if you arent, then how is posting here going to help?
If you want action, fight for it. If you dont like what someone else is doing, change it.
And as for afghanistan and Iraq. if you cannot give me a solution that iwll work ,besides "pull all the troops out" lets here it. How about the taliban that was in afghan before us?
I'd like to address this, as my own stance has been firm from the beginning.
Taliban: No one gave a shit before the attacks on 9/11. For
some reason, people think the Taliban were involved. The only thing the Pashtun tribes did was NOT give up the guy who stuck with them through the ENTIRE Soviet thing. Us? We gave weapons (to bin Laden
and Hussein, more on that later), we gave training, including on torture. While the Taliban was destroying the Buddhas no one gave a shit. And honestly, why should we? Why should we expect the entire rest of the world to live exactly as we do? They've had their cultural traditions for a hell of a long time. I say let
them fight the shit out for themselves.
Same thing with the Iraqis. No one ever values what they didn't have to work or fight for themselves as much as that which they did. We should NOT have given Hussein those weapons that he used against the Kurds (who we now allow the Turks to bomb after giving them assurances we were allied), but we did. The Kurds fight and fought. The rest of the Iraqis? Fuck 'em! They should have fought their own Goddamn battle!
Why dont you post how they took al the women out of any schools or jobs and left babies to starve if they didnt kill them outright?
What babies? They are still taking women out of school, in Afghanistan and Pakistan. What are we going to "do" about Pakistan? We'd better do nothing.
Why dont you post on how saddams tortured peopl by having their arms and legs surgically removed and then sending them home like that. Or how he used chemical weapons and nerve agants on the kurds?
Addressed above. I get the feeling you're trying to make our oil imperialism about more altruistic purposes, and those were ostensible at best. In truth, they don't exist because no one really gives a shit.
No offense, but all i ever see form you are one sided arguements that are all based on how you "feel". I'm sorry ,but you cannot run anything on your emotions and what you think is right.I feel bad for a lot of poele too, but if we werent over there, who would be?
I agree and disagree. We shouldn't be there, no one should be. We can NOT be the world police. What's ironic is that so many of these people want us to be the world police, yet resent us for acting as such. Of course, self-funding police are a rather dangerous thing, aren't they?
Honestly, if we were SO altruistic in our actions, how did Rwanda happen, exact? How about Zimbabwe (and now yet again)? The list is long and exhausting.
WHy dont you take your time to come up with a solution and then making it happen?Hell, what do you do in your own community that is making it a better place?
And once again medicine,I mean no offense. I realixe your heart is in the right place. its just that the time for talking about the problems has come and gone. What was once conservative is now liberal. What was once liberal is no more.The middle rungs on the ladder to succes have disaperaed altogether, but yet there is no action anywhere being taken.
What this world needs is an enema.
Heh.. then we let everyone be, let everyone kill each other off. Honestly. that's how I feel a lot of the time. Let them have it, let them have at each other, we need to take care of our problems at home.
As for "liberal" versus "conservative, what a fucking CROCK!
I give you HR 4279, which our representatives have overwhelmingly passed and is now moving on to the Senate. Whores.