Why does the left hate America?

insid33

Member
Why does the left hate most everything conservatives love? The constitution, freedom of speech, right to keep and bear arms are just a few. I'm not looking for a blog battle, just trying to understand why this beloved country and it's people are hated for the believing in the very things which made us so great.
 

tokeprep

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The framers didn't agree about what the constitution meant either. Some of the arguments and rivalries then were just as vicious as they are today.
 

GOD HERE

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Why does the left hate most everything conservatives love? The constitution, freedom of speech, right to keep and bear arms are just a few. I'm not looking for a blog battle, just trying to understand why this beloved country and it's people are hated for the believing in the very things which made us so great.
So much lulz.
 

see4

Well-Known Member
Why does the left hate most everything conservatives love? The constitution, freedom of speech, right to keep and bear arms are just a few. I'm not looking for a blog battle, just trying to understand why this beloved country and it's people are hated for the believing in the very things which made us so great.
You consider me a lefty, no? I bet I own more guns than you. I have not once stopped you from saying what you think. The constitution? I believe in it just as much as you do, but I also believe it needs to be updated to keep up with the time. The mantra of conservatism is to keep things the same, and for some of that I agree, but for many other facets, I don't.

How is that for a considerate answer?
 

MuyLocoNC

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Oh, you're an American. You might even be a US citizen. But, so are traitors, right up to the moment you hang them. Expatriation isn't used very often.
 

Buzerek

Active Member
Why does the left hate most everything conservatives love? The constitution, freedom of speech, right to keep and bear arms are just a few. I'm not looking for a blog battle, just trying to understand why this beloved country and it's people are hated for the believing in the very things which made us so great.
Leftist, liberals could be easily cured and rehabilitated by sending them to Cuba or North Korea for "treatment" they deserve.

I was born and lived over 20 years under terror of Soviet block gulag, so I always appreciated living in US, and I am VACCINATED for life from this dreaded commie/liberal disease .

If Obama is unchecked we all will experience our very own "worker paradise" here in US.

Obamacare is just a beginning.

Current Obama Care is just a smoke screen, it is a premeditated stage to 100% gov run and funded healtcare system. In current stage Obamacare is not sustainable and it will soon bankrupt all health insurance industry. But that is premeditated and necessary step in progressive "progression".

In final stage/goal doctors will be mandated to work for peanuts for gov clinics part of their time, only then they will be allowed to have private practice on their own. There will be long lines every days in gov run clinics, they will be free for everybody, but if you are really sick you'll need to go to likely same doctor in the afternoon when he practices in his own office and pay if you really want to get well.

That's how it worked in Soviet Gulag, and that how it will exactly work in USA if Obama and next US prez get their way.

PERIOD.
 

see4

Well-Known Member
Leftist, liberals could be easily cured and rehabilitated by sending them to Cuba or North Korea for "treatment" they deserve.

I was born and lived over 20 years under terror of Soviet block gulag, so I always appreciated living in US, and I am VACCINATED for life from this dreaded commie/liberal disease .

If Obama is unchecked we all will experience our very own "worker paradise" here in US.

Obamacare is just a beginning.

Current Obama Care is just a smoke screen, it is a premeditated stage to 100% gov run and funded healtcare system. In current stage Obamacare is not sustainable and it will soon bankrupt all health insurance industry. But that is premeditated and necessary step in progressive "progression".

In final stage/goal doctors will be mandated to work for peanuts for gov clinics part of their time, only then they will be allowed to have private practice on their own. There will be long lines every days in gov run clinics, they will be free for everybody, but if you are really sick you'll need to go to likely same doctor in the afternoon when he practices in his own office and pay if you really want to get well.

That's how it worked in Soviet Gulag, and that how it will exactly work in USA if Obama and next US prez get their way.

PERIOD.
I do not believe you.
 

beenthere

New Member
You consider me a lefty, no?
I consider you very confused.

I bet I own more guns than you.
I'll bet that with your continued support of the progressive left, you will no longer be able to make that claim.
I have not once stopped you from saying what you think.
This is only because you do not have the ability to do so.

The constitution? I believe in it just as much as you do, but I also believe it needs to be updated to keep up with the time. The mantra of conservatism is to keep things the same, and for some of that I agree, but for many other facets, I don't.

How is that for a considerate answer?
You believe in the constitution as much as conservatives do?
Without divulging the "updates" you so strongly believe in, how in the hell can you profess such a thing?
 

heckler73

Well-Known Member
Current Obama Care is just a smoke screen, it is a premeditated stage to 100% gov run and funded healtcare system. In current stage Obamacare is not sustainable and it will soon bankrupt all health insurance industry. But that is premeditated and necessary step in progressive "progression".

In final stage/goal doctors will be mandated to work for peanuts for gov clinics part of their time, only then they will be allowed to have private practice on their own. There will be long lines every days in gov run clinics, they will be free for everybody, but if you are really sick you'll need to go to likely same doctor in the afternoon when he practices in his own office and pay if you really want to get well.

That's how it worked in Soviet Gulag, and that how it will exactly work in USA if Obama and next US prez get their way.

PERIOD.
:lol:
Welcome to the Soviet Socialist Republic of Canada, comrade.
I think you must have dropped your skull on those rocks you were crushing while imprisoned.
Would you like some Pannekoeken with stroop?
 

desert dude

Well-Known Member
You consider me a lefty, no? I bet I own more guns than you. I have not once stopped you from saying what you think. The constitution? I believe in it just as much as you do, but I also believe it needs to be updated to keep up with the time. The mantra of conservatism is to keep things the same, and for some of that I agree, but for many other facets, I don't.

How is that for a considerate answer?

I generally agree with your statements above; all of them, except the mantra of conservatism thing. Conservatives don't want to keep everything the same for all time. Has your head exploded?

I do have a polite question for you, C4: How should the constitution be updated? Should amendments be proposed and passed by the states, or should we just violate the parts some don't like?
 
In response to the OP:

Simply, the GOVT is trying to micromanage everything that made this country great. Not taking those rights away from us, but sure keeping a VERY close eye on everything.
 

heckler73

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In response to the OP:

Simply, the GOVT is trying to micromanage everything that made this country great. Not taking those rights away from us, but sure keeping a VERY close eye on everything.
What on earth is that in your avatar?
Simpson oil on mozzarella?
 

AimAim

Well-Known Member
Why would anyone gravitate to a website teaching you how to grow pot, and then expect an intelligent conversation regarding politics?

It doesn't make sense to me but maybe I'm just high.
 

beenthere

New Member
Why would anyone gravitate to a website teaching you how to grow pot, and then expect an intelligent conversation regarding politics?

It doesn't make sense to me but maybe I'm just high.
There's much, much more to life than just pot.
 

heckler73

Well-Known Member
Why would anyone gravitate to a website teaching you how to grow pot, and then expect an intelligent conversation regarding politics?

It doesn't make sense to me but maybe I'm just high.
Why would anyone gravitate (or be moved by a Lorentz force) to politicians and expect them to know how to intelligently handle the issue of growing pot?

Perhaps you aren't high enough, since cocaine and booze are the tools of choice for devious politicians.

Care for a bump after sucking a shot of tequila from the navel of a stripper to help reassess your position on the matter?
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
Why does the left hate most everything conservatives love? The constitution, freedom of speech, right to keep and bear arms are just a few. I'm not looking for a blog battle, just trying to understand why this beloved country and it's people are hated for the believing in the very things which made us so great.
everything is bible-centric with conservatives..as an american, i have the right to NO RELIGION..stop trying to make the us government your pulpit..

keep the bible and religion out of government!
 

insid33

Member
everything is bible-centric with conservatives..as an american, i have the right to NO RELIGION..stop trying to make the us government your pulpit..

keep the bible and religion out of government!
You must have me confused with someone that wants a pulpit, the only thing I want my goverment for is to protect the citizens and our country from foreign invaders.
 
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