Why do detractors constantly fail to argue against policy?

choomer

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Except the biggest net drain States are red states, always.
Really?



Here’s a straightforward list of the top ten states with the highest expenditures on public welfare. Note the enormous difference between California and New York and the rest of the country.


1. California - $103 Billion

2. New York - $61.4 Billion

3. Texas - $35.4 Billion

4. Florida - $27.2 Billion

5. Pennsylvania - $26.7 Billion

6. Illinois - $21 Billion

7. Ohio - $20 Billion

8. Massachusetts - $18.6 Billion

9. New Jersey - $17.3 Billion

10. Michigan - $16.3 Billion


Here’s an interesting fact for you. The top ten states listed above spend more on public welfare ($346.9B) than all of the bottom forty states (plus the District of Columbia) combined ($262.7B). Regardless of how populated any particular state is, you want to pay attention to these numbers because they foreshadow future budget problems. When you consider the fact that many states run operating deficits and have enormous debt problems, you begin to wonder if some of these numbers are sustainable for the long term.


It helps to source a statement like yours above or else it looks like that statement is being pulled directly from your ass.
 
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Fogdog

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funny how I could read that.

No, I meant prosperity. Red states keep doing the wrong things, such as way under-funding education, infrastructure to maintain low taxes. They get what they pay for, which is a third world economy. The only reason they have anything at all is because prosperous regions throw them some bones. California, for instance, has a world class economy and is expanding because it invests in its people, schools, environment and infrastructure.

Your "correction" stinks of jealousy. You can stew in that.
 

SneekyNinja

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Really?



Here’s a straightforward list of the top ten states with the highest expenditures on public welfare. Note the enormous difference between California and New York and the rest of the country.


1. California - $103 Billion

2. New York - $61.4 Billion

3. Texas - $35.4 Billion

4. Florida - $27.2 Billion

5. Pennsylvania - $26.7 Billion

6. Illinois - $21 Billion

7. Ohio - $20 Billion

8. Massachusetts - $18.6 Billion

9. New Jersey - $17.3 Billion

10. Michigan - $16.3 Billion


Here’s an interesting fact for you. The top ten states listed above spend more on public welfare ($346.9B) than all of the bottom forty states (plus the District of Columbia) combined ($262.7B). Regardless of how populated any particular state is, you want to pay attention to these numbers because they foreshadow future budget problems. When you consider the fact that many states run operating deficits and have enormous debt problems, you begin to wonder if some of these numbers are sustainable for the long term.


It helps to source a statement like yours above or else it looks like that statement is being pulled directly from your ass.
Net drain, dumbass.

(Compare it to revenue generated, there, I even included a hint)
 

choomer

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funny how I could read that.
<Unsourced and fanciful rhetoric.>
Your "correction" stinks of jealousy. You can stew in that.
Think what you wish (you shall anyway) and keep coming back with only your conjecture to substantiate your claims (or is it that inability to understand the written word that's giving you trouble?).

Let me help:

Definition of disparate
1 : markedly distinct in quality or character
2 : containing or made up of fundamentally different and often incongruous elements

disparately
adverb

disparateness
noun

disparity
noun
 

ginjawarrior

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Do your own homework and cite the source, or keep speaking from your hindquarters.

States differ in the amount of federal aid they receive. The top recipient of federal aid in FY 2014 was Mississippi, which relied on federal assistance for 40.9 percent of its revenue. Other states heavily reliant on federal assistance include Louisiana (40.1 percent), Tennessee (39.9 percent), Montana (39.1 percent), and Kentucky (38.5 percent). As we have previously noted, these states, and others that rely heavily on federal assistance, tend to have modest tax collections and a relatively large low-income population.
https://taxfoundation.org/states-rely-most-federal-aid/
 

zeddd

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Think what you wish (you shall anyway) and keep coming back with only your conjecture to substantiate your claims (or is it that inability to understand the written word that's giving you trouble?).

Let me help:

Definition of disparate
1 : markedly distinct in quality or character
2 : containing or made up of fundamentally different and often incongruous elements

disparately
adverb

disparateness
noun

disparity
noun
Dismiss
 

Unclebaldrick

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Post your source that answers that question then.
Or insult me some more as that is always a quintessential way to convince people that you're a thinking person with opinion worth listening to. ;)
You can't just make up a question out of no evidence whatsoever and then demand an answer to it in order to disprove it, dimwit. That just isn't the way logic works. How about you show me the proof? Perhaps you can use some of the evidence that your moron president has presented after setting up a commission to "investigate" it at taxpayer expense. Oh wait, there is none. Just a collection of assholes "investigating" a narcissistic asshole's charges while drawing a hefty paycheck for pretending to do so and demanding that every state send them their complete voting rolls on an unsecured website. Drain that swamp, jizz-rag!

You really are a stupid knee-jerk fuck-bag. I can refute your assertion and insult you. You are a dotard.
 
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Fogdog

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it's convenient as fuck to hold both sides of that position.....especially as the popular vote crowd's end game is to View attachment 4058206 eliminate states.

Two thirds of all 2016 presidential campaigning was spent in six states
94% of the 2016 presidential campaigning was in 12 states
The skewed attention to only a few states is entirely driven by the Electoral College.

http://www.nationalpopularvote.com/half-presidential-campaign-only-5-states-33-states-totally-ignored

National popular vote will end this archaic remnant of the days of chattel slavery. No change to the constitution is needed and not even a majority of states need to pass this law to end the EC as it currently exists.
 
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choomer

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You came with data and I gotta appreciate that you source your data, but let's see if Squeaky is correct.

State welfare exp. federal dep % for gen rev. How much is that? political alignment for 2014

1. California - $103 Billion 26% $103B*.26= $26.78B D

2. New York - $61.4 Billion 32.8% $61.4B*.328=$20.1B D

3. Texas - $35.4 Billion 31.8% $35.4B*.318=$11.2B R

4. Florida - $27.2 Billion 33.2% $27.2B*.332=$9B D

5. Pennsylvania - $26.7 Billion 30.8% $26.7B*.308=$8.2B D

6. Illinois - $21 Billion 26.8% $21B*.268=$5.6B D

7. Ohio - $20 Billion 35% $20B*.35=$7B D

8. Massachusetts - $18.6 Billion 27.8% $18.6*.278=$5.1B D

9. New Jersey - $17.3 Billion 27.3% $17.3B*.273=$4.7B D

10. Michigan - $16.3 Billion 32.3% $16.3*.323=$5.26B D

and for fun comparison the most dependent on federal aid:

11. Mississippi $5.8 Billion 40.1% $5.8*.401=$2.32B R

<political alignment map for 2014 courtesy of http://www.peteradz.com/2014/2014-red-blue-political-map-usa>

As you can see, a higher percentage of subsidization DOES NOT MEAN more money from the federal gov't, aka "drain".

Try again? ;)
 

choomer

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You can't just make up a question out of no evidence whatsoever and then demand an answer to it in order to disprove it, dimwit. That just isn't the way logic works. How about you show me the proof? Perhaps you can use some of the evidence that your moron president has presented after setting up a commission to "investigate" it at taxpayer expense. Oh wait, there is none. Just a collection of assholes "investigating" a narcissistic asshole's charges while drawing a hefty paycheck for pretending to do so and demanding that every state send them their complete voting rolls on an unsecured website. Drain that swamp, jizz-rag!

You really are a stupid knee-jerk fuck-bag. I can refute your assertion and insult you. You are a dotard.
That's not a nice way to refer to Robert Mueller's Russian collusion investigation!
But it is pretty much on the nose. ;)
 
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