Why cure so long?
- Thread starter Beansly
- Start date
Wolverine97
Well-Known Member
You're talking about two different things. The two weeks thing is in reference to drying, not curing, there's a big difference.
monkeybones
Well-Known Member
If you're selling it to kids & schmucks on a playground then I suppose curing some damp bud for 2 weeks is fine, but when I'm smoking herb, I like it to be well dried (bone dry), well stored, and to have stayed that way until being needed. I treat it like good saffron. I find the longer bud cures the more complex the stone and taste are, not necessarily having to do with potency.
It's a question of quality really, so pick where your lot falls and get to work. It's medicine going directly into your brain so quality, to me, is of the highest importance.
It's a question of quality really, so pick where your lot falls and get to work. It's medicine going directly into your brain so quality, to me, is of the highest importance.
monkeybones
Well-Known Member
I feel I need to add: don't "cure" damp bud. Pot should be bone dry period. Moisture = the potential for life and life in your bud after harvest = bad. Just dry it and give up on the notion that damp is okay because it weighs more. I hate seller mentality.
taint
Well-Known Member
I know I'm a noob and smoke over ripened buds and have no idea what actually getting high is..................
Generally hang for a week to 10 days dependent on the density of the bud,I like dried bud with just a slight amount of moisture,just before they start snapping.
Trim off stems,drop into jar and seal overnight.
Next morning I dump it out on a tray for the day then back in the jars at night.
This allows the moisture to distribute evenly throughout the bud then allows it dry out evenly and throughout.
Do this until dried and crumble kinda like old crushed velvet,then seal up and burp for a few daily for a week or so.
I find at this time it's ready for longterm storage,and like I always say.................the longer it sits the better it gets.
Generally hang for a week to 10 days dependent on the density of the bud,I like dried bud with just a slight amount of moisture,just before they start snapping.
Trim off stems,drop into jar and seal overnight.
Next morning I dump it out on a tray for the day then back in the jars at night.
This allows the moisture to distribute evenly throughout the bud then allows it dry out evenly and throughout.
Do this until dried and crumble kinda like old crushed velvet,then seal up and burp for a few daily for a week or so.
I find at this time it's ready for longterm storage,and like I always say.................the longer it sits the better it gets.
Serapis
Well-Known Member
Actually, you are incorrect. If bud had 0 moisture in it, it would be dust. The smoke would be bland, devoid of terpenoids, the oils that provide us with aroma and taste. Now when you back track and state that you didn't mean that dry, keep in mind that the cure process starts with a RH of around 70% and is slowly lowered in a controlled fashion through a series of burps. The idea is to slowly allow the starches and sugars that make a smoke harsh, break down. The ideal cure will take several months and will bring the RH down to about 55%, where at that point, you can quit burping your cure jars.
Hell, if we only had to do weed the way you state, it would be tasteless, odorless and probably inert as far as buzz goes. zero moisture is a bad thing, not a good thing.
Hell, if we only had to do weed the way you state, it would be tasteless, odorless and probably inert as far as buzz goes. zero moisture is a bad thing, not a good thing.
Wolverine97
Well-Known Member
Once your weed is bone dry it will not cure. You should aim for around 12-14% moisture content during the curing stage, this will reduce down to 10-12% by the time the cure is finished. Then it can be stored long term. Don't let it get too dry before you start your cure, or the starches and chlorophyll are locked in there forever.
Cannabis Krew 420
Active Member
both are absolutely necessary, curing your harvest for 2 weeks after its almost dried makes the bud so much smoother. and as for curing weed for long period its the bbest!!!
Iv got buds from 3 generations of a buddies white widow cross curing, the first one has been curing for like 4 months now, i want to cure five generations then smoke each bud you get such better smells and taste wen its well cured
Iv got buds from 3 generations of a buddies white widow cross curing, the first one has been curing for like 4 months now, i want to cure five generations then smoke each bud you get such better smells and taste wen its well cured
What is the point even mentioning the moisture content of BUDS? There is no way to measure it.
Instead, use hygrometers in jars, and measure the RH inside.
You'll find RH-numbers out there (google "perfect cure every time" site:icmag.com), they indicate that curing is done when RH = 55% (or at least done burping).
Those numbers will also help you see if you have jarred them too early, or too late.
Edit: BTW, if curing for like 6 months make sure the jar is sealed (no air). If not, be prepared for CBN-hell.
Instead, use hygrometers in jars, and measure the RH inside.
You'll find RH-numbers out there (google "perfect cure every time" site:icmag.com), they indicate that curing is done when RH = 55% (or at least done burping).
Those numbers will also help you see if you have jarred them too early, or too late.
Edit: BTW, if curing for like 6 months make sure the jar is sealed (no air). If not, be prepared for CBN-hell.
Wolverine97
Well-Known Member
Yes there is. Get a moisture meter.
Serapis
Well-Known Member
klonerone
Active Member
Wolverine97
Well-Known Member
Didn't say it was necessary, I was responding to the assertion that there is no way to test moisture content. There is, a moisture meter similar to what flooring installers use.
Beansly
RIU Bulldog
I see. So curing for longer periods actually does make a difference. And I did kow what I meant when I said two weeks for cure. That's what I read, but I can see now that they were talking about commercial sales, not high quality buds.
Thanks for the info krok, I think i'll do that.
Uncle Ben
Well-Known Member
The romance, mystique, herd appeal? Never figured this one out, except for the human element side of it all.
I have never seen any bonafide, scientific studies that show the difference between bud that is dried to say.....10% moisture content within an hour or 3 weeks. I slowly dry my herb depending on rot pressure which usually takes about 1-2 weeks. Smoke fine and potent, no complaints.
Take a freshly cut nugget, set it in the sun until dry, RIU, and tell me what you think. You might be pleasantly surprised.
UB
Wolverine97
Well-Known Member
UB:
I respect your opinion, but I have to strongly disagree with you here. I've done it both ways, many times. There's no comparison (in my experience) between the two. The buds that I have cured for several months develop an entirely different flavor, aroma, and quality of the high. For this I don't need a scientific study, I can see what produces the effect that I aim to achieve.
Uncle Ben
Well-Known Member
Howdy, and welcome to RIU. Yeah, that was some pretty disgusting shit Gad pulled on the PG community. I quickly sensed a contempt he had for his membership and this "hurray for me, fuck you" attitude. He hurt a lot of folks, did a lot of damage.
Classic ub........................actually missed ya.
I also gotta say that in the end ub,you were right bout gad.
Thanks for the link to this place.
Yeah, it's just my opinion. All this curing talk is subjective anyhoo. Whatever floats your boat amigo.
UB
You see, even UB only has opinions sometimes. And that's OK.
And guess what, curing gives a *HUGE* differenece. So big, in fact, that I am CERTAIN that UB never has smoked any. If he had, he would have agreed that curing is essential.
However, slowly dried weed is... curing.
So I guess UB dries his bud great, and the difference is therefore less.
But I still believe he IS missing out if he doesn't cure. That is my opinion
And guess what, curing gives a *HUGE* differenece. So big, in fact, that I am CERTAIN that UB never has smoked any. If he had, he would have agreed that curing is essential.
However, slowly dried weed is... curing.
So I guess UB dries his bud great, and the difference is therefore less.
But I still believe he IS missing out if he doesn't cure. That is my opinion