Why are these girls unhappy?

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oill

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Hi guys. I had a load of cuttings in one small cloner and all the roots got tangled.

I moved 3 of them into their own bubblers and I think I broke some roots.

I also moved them under my mh light at the same time. After 4 days they look a bit droopy.

Looks like overwatering to me, but got plenty of bubbles.

Any ideas?
 

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oill

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legallyflying said:
Where are the roots in relation to the water level? What size MH and distance?

Temps and humidity?

We transfer plants all the time and this doesn't look like transplant shock to me
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400w mh. Still got problems. Roots not looking too at all.

Mh is about 1.5 foot away. It's in air cooled hood
 
legallyflying

legallyflying

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Here is a super radical idea.. why don't you provide us the information neccessary do us to actually help you.

This is the only forum I know of where people ask for help and don't provide fuck all of information.

Picures of roots? Water temp, air temp, humidity, ppms, nute types, air pumps, etc etc etc...

I bet $1000000 that you have root rot because your water is too hit because you found one shit head say "I run my hydro with no chiller and NEVER had any problems".
 
SnaFuu

SnaFuu

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legallyflying said:
Here is a super radical idea.. why don't you provide us the information neccessary do us to actually help you.

This is the only forum I know of where people ask for help and don't provide fuck all of information.

Picures of roots? Water temp, air temp, humidity, ppms, nute types, air pumps, etc etc etc...

I bet $1000000 that you have root rot because your water is too hit because you found one shit head say "I run my hydro with no chiller and NEVER had any problems".
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LOL

No no it's transfer stress!!:dunce:
 
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oill

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legallyflying said:
Here is a super radical idea.. why don't you provide us the information neccessary do us to actually help you.

This is the only forum I know of where people ask for help and don't provide fuck all of information.

Picures of roots? Water temp, air temp, humidity, ppms, nute types, air pumps, etc etc etc...

I bet $1000000 that you have root rot because your water is too hit because you found one shit head say "I run my hydro with no chiller and NEVER had any problems".
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Wooooowwweeeee.

Water is ~20c. Room is 19-24c. Humidity is ~30%.

Added H2o2 and started to see some white roots so maybe a slow recovery on the way. Maybe root rot indeed. I added better air stones too.
 
farmerfischer

farmerfischer

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oill said:
Wooooowwweeeee.

Water is ~20c. Room is 19-24c. Humidity is ~30%.

Added H2o2 and started to see some white roots so maybe a slow recovery on the way. Maybe root rot indeed. I added better air stones too.
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Becarefull with the h2o2,, its mainly for cleaning and killin pathogens and algae,, that shit can kill your shit quick,,
 
SnaFuu

SnaFuu

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farmerfischer said:
Becarefull with the h2o2,, its mainly for cleaning and killin pathogens and algae,, that shit can kill your shit quick,,
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How so



Is it the water that's released when it's broken down into H2O + O or is it that pesky O molecule that's gonna "kill my shit"??
 
farmerfischer

farmerfischer

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SnaFuu said:
How so



Is it the water that's released when it's broken down into H2O + O or is it that pesky O molecule that's gonna "kill my shit"??
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Lol,, I dont know the streigth he used, but the h2o2 that I had was a strong consintrate, I used Fifteen milliliters in ten gallons and it beached out my nutes'' went from orangish red to clear like clean water,, regular peroxide people often use thinkin that the extra O helps their plants,, it very well may,, my warning was to oill, because to much real H2o2 in the res,, can kill healthy roots,, so I was advising him to be carfull,, but I'm cool with hijackers smart ass questions,,, be my guest and dump a hole bottle of H2o2 ( the real shit) in your res ,,watch that cool hydrochloric cloud form and take a deep breath
 
Carolina Dream'n

Carolina Dream'n

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oill said:
Wooooowwweeeee.

Water is ~20c. Room is 19-24c. Humidity is ~30%.c

Added H2o2 and started to see some white roots so maybe a slow recovery on the way. Maybe root rot indeed. I added better air stones too.
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Humidity is too low. High humidity during transplants helps the plant because it won't be using all its energy to transpire moisture.
 
SnaFuu

SnaFuu

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farmerfischer said:
Lol,, I dont know the streigth he used, but the h2o2 that I had was a strong consintrate, I used Fifteen milliliters in ten gallons and it beached out my nutes'' went from orangish red to clear like clean water,, regular peroxide people often use thinkin that the extra O helps their plants,, it very well may,, my warning was to oill, because to much real H2o2 in the res,, can kill healthy roots,, so I was advising him to be carfull,, but I'm cool with hijackers smart ass questions,,, be my guest and dump a hole bottle of H2o2 ( the real shit) in your res ,,watch that cool hydrochloric cloud form and take a deep breath
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LOL right.

Thanks for the info i'll be on the lookout for the deadly root killing h2o2
 
farmerfischer

farmerfischer

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SnaFuu said:
LOL right.

Thanks for the info i'll be on the lookout for the deadly root killing h2o2
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Hey!! Just trying to give oill a heads up,, but if you want to troll me I made a thread in toke'n talk,, just look for hey troll's come in here,, your more then well come to be a smart ass in there,,lol,, if your not about helpin people of offering caution like for this instance get the hell of the post''
 
farmerfischer

farmerfischer

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oill said:
Wooooowwweeeee.

Water is ~20c. Room is 19-24c. Humidity is ~30%.

Added H2o2 and started to see some white roots so maybe a slow recovery on the way. Maybe root rot indeed. I added better air stones too.
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Get some hydro guard,, thats good shit,, its H2o2 and it has a mild pesticide and fungicide in it,, if you buy some use it cautiously,, if I remember correctly its to be used afew days before you change out your nute's
 
legallyflying

legallyflying

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The reason h2o2 is dangerous is that in reality (aka. The real world) it can actually damage the tissue of what your cleaning. It works the same exact way that bleach does.. it releases an ion to attacK organic particles.. whether they are viruses, skin cells or root tissue.

Don't belive me, well, you could Google it.. or try this experiment. If you have two cuts, but neosporin on one and pour h2o2 on the other twice a day and see what happens.

The humidity IS too low. But what actually is happening is two things1.
The plant can not keep up with respiration rates because it has too little root structure. 2. It absorbs tons of nutrient while transporting.

If you have low humidity then mist the plants and decrease your nutrient concentration.

You never did give your ppm reading.. which to me says you don't have a ppm pen. That's a no no in hydro. Your ppm and ph tell you EVERYTHING about what is going on with your plants.
 
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