Why are republicans against legalization of marijuana?

beardo

beardo

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I want it legalized- I am voting no on 19 because it is not a straight forward legalization bill
 
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Parker

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BadDog40 said:
Being involved with marijuana and voting republican is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders. Maybe your apples are really nuts.
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mmmmmmmm Chicken, and apples, and nuts

A couple of questions. Why WOULD anyone vote against weed? And why ARE we having to vote on it?
Since when does the government own your body and have the right to tell you what you can or cannot put into it? Your body is your property and you can do whatever you want to with it, as long as you do not step on the rights of others. The prohibition against weed was passed using false reports, by a very uninformed Congress, to instill fear in the people. We see this time and time again. The fear of swine flu is an example. The fear used to pass the UnPatriotic Act is another.
 
abe23

abe23

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Parker said:
mmmmmmmm Chicken, and apples, and nuts

A couple of questions. Why WOULD anyone vote against weed? And why ARE we having to vote on it?
Since when does the government own your body and have the right to tell you what you can or cannot put into it? Your body is your property and you can do whatever you want to with it, as long as you do not step on the rights of others. The prohibition against weed was passed using false reports, by a very uninformed Congress, to instill fear in the people. We see this time and time again. The fear of swine flu is an example. The fear used to pass the UnPatriotic Act is another.
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That's a lot of fancy talky words and nice ideas, but the reality looks more like this:

Republican: Obama administration fosters use of marijuana
By Michael O'Brien - 09/21/10 01:48 PM ET
Rep. Lamar Smith (Texas) accused the administration of being too lax in its enforcement of drug laws.

President Obama's drug policies are encouraging increased marijuana use, a top Republican lawmaker charged Tuesday.

Rep. Lamar Smith (Texas), the top Republican member of the House Judiciary Committee who would likely become chairman of the committee under a GOP majority, accused the administration of being too lax in its enforcement of drug laws.

"The administration is clearly sending the message that they don't think it's bad to use marijuana," Smith said on Fox News. "So they're encouraging the use of marijuana. And that simply is not a good thing to do."

Smith blamed the administration's decision to not enforce federal laws against marijuana dispensaries in states that have legalized the drug for medicinal purposes. Smith blamed the administration's approach on drug laws for recent statistics showing an increased use of marijuana.

"We ought to be enforcing our drug laws, not backing away from them," said Smith, who also lamented a recent revision of criminal sentencing guidelines that reduced sentencing guidelines for crack-cocaine traffickers. Proponents of the law in both parties had pushed that reform because sentencing for crack-related drug crimes were much more severe than for similar amounts of cocaine, a disparity which fueled a racial divide in drug sentencing.

Obama has publicly said several times now that he does not favor legalizing marijuana, particularly as a way to raise tax revenue.

"The answer is, no, I don't think that is a good strategy to grow our economy," he said at an August online town hall.

The administration faces a key test from California voters this fall in its approach toward marijuana policy, though. The state's voters are set to cast their ballots on an initiative legalizing the drug for tax and regulation purposes.

A SurveyUSA poll released in early September found that California voters narrowly favor that ballot initiative, 47-43 percent, with 10 percent undecided.



Source:
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/120035-top-republican-obama-administration-encouraging-use-of-marijuana
The contents of this site are © 2010 Capitol Hill Publishing Corp., a subsidiary of News Communications, Inc.
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Make sure you all vote for these idiots this fall...
 
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raverguy

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reps make too much money from pharma, alcohol/tobacco... not gonna bite the hand that feeds them

and we all know marijuana laws are in the books to keep minorities down.... thats why most republicans in office support the incarceration for users...
crack laws are tough cuz minorities use them.... cocaine penalties arent as bad... mostly because whites use...

has no one else noticed this????
 
jesus of Cannabis

jesus of Cannabis

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raverguy said:
reps make too much money from pharma, alcohol/tobacco... not gonna bite the hand that feeds them

and we all know marijuana laws are in the books to keep minorities down.... thats why most republicans in office support the incarceration for users...
crack laws are tough cuz minorities use them.... cocaine penalties arent as bad... mostly because whites use...

has no one else noticed this????
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what color is the sky where you are at?
 
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Parker

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abe23 said:
That's a lot of fancy talky words and nice ideas, but the reality looks more like this:
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Since when is the Constitution fancy, talky ideas? That is your failed interpretation not mine.

abe23 said:
Make sure you all vote for these idiots this fall...
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although I would like to see the repeal of the unconstitutional drug laws, that is far down the list of the reasons I'd vote someone out.
 
BudMcLovin

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I think republicans are against legalizing pot because they think it is morally wrong. (Well I guess both parties do that) Seriously I’ve been drunk as shit with a few old timers who wouldn’t touch weed. They told me I was a loser for even smoking it, but that case of beer we just drank they didn’t have a problem with. I think in large part they are very misinformed. They generally like to try and regulate the “moral fiber” of society. Instead of letting people live by their own moral code and take personal responsibility for their actions they regulate certain personal freedoms and we end up with victimless crimes.

True freedom scares people for many reasons. Look at both the major political parties in America today. Is either one of them talking about liberty and freedom? If they do it’s never complete personal freedom across the board, it’s always only the areas they think restricts freedom and they only way to fix it is with more government regulation and more control.
 
lowrider2000

lowrider2000

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raverguy said:
reps make too much money from pharma, alcohol/tobacco... not gonna bite the hand that feeds them

and we all know marijuana laws are in the books to keep minorities down.... thats why most republicans in office support the incarceration for users...
crack laws are tough cuz minorities use them.... cocaine penalties arent as bad... mostly because whites use...

has no one else noticed this????
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nigga you must be a minority smoking crack lol cus were im from the cocaine capital Miami................. They will rape you if they catch you wit a .5 of coke.....st8 to county boss...... crack laws may be a lil bit worst in some places but its only because it destroys community's and they do what the got to do to stop it........ and it affects minority's because its so cheep but rich people smoke crack to....... i was in a court ordered NA class for a while and recovering crack heads would drive up in porches n shit
 
lowrider2000

lowrider2000

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BudMcLovin said:
I think republicans are against legalizing pot because they think it is morally wrong. (Well I guess both parties do that) Seriously I’ve been drunk as shit with a few old timers who wouldn’t touch weed. They told me I was a loser for even smoking it, but that case of beer we just drank they didn’t have a problem with. I think in large part they are very misinformed. They generally like to try and regulate the “moral fiber” of society. Instead of letting people live by their own moral code and take personal responsibility for their actions they regulate certain personal freedoms and we end up with victimless crimes.

True freedom scares people for many reasons. Look at both the major political parties in America today. Is either one of them talking about liberty and freedom? If they do it’s never complete personal freedom across the board, it’s always only the areas they think restricts freedom and they only way to fix it is with more government regulation and more control.
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And thats the truth
 
Moldy

Moldy

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although I would like to see the repeal of the unconstitutional drug laws, that is far down the list of the reasons I'd vote someone out.
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I used to use that logic also but anymore fuck'em all. If they want to put my grandkids in jail for smoking a joint then fuck them. No more. I will not vote for those asswipes (both dems or repukes). If fact I think there are a number of drug warriors that should be brought up on charges. I'm sick of it. I've watched this shit go down for years (including me in 67) and my distaste for politicians is at an all time high.
 
tip top toker

tip top toker

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Parker said:
mmmmmmmm Chicken, and apples, and nuts

A couple of questions. Why WOULD anyone vote against weed? And why ARE we having to vote on it?
Since when does the government own your body and have the right to tell you what you can or cannot put into it? Your body is your property and you can do whatever you want to with it, as long as you do not step on the rights of others. The prohibition against weed was passed using false reports, by a very uninformed Congress, to instill fear in the people. We see this time and time again. The fear of swine flu is an example. The fear used to pass the UnPatriotic Act is another.
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Good man, i've taken to promiting this everywhere and anywhere. Comon law, admiralty law, the government cannot convict, control, touch you, if you do not consent to it, every Act they create is ONLY applicable and enforceable upon a person, not a human being. An Act is nothing mroe than a company rule, not a law, a company rule. If you're not employed by that company, you do not follow their rules and they have no jurisdiction over you. :)
 
SouthSideNuggs

SouthSideNuggs

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It really dont matter because even though dems are in favor they really look at it as a tax thing. Here in colorado they pass it and then tax and regulate it so much that you cant afoord it and now thay are making it impossable to grow with all these regulations.they get the votes to pass initially then regulate the shit out of it so whats the differance either way it still jacked up.
 
beardo

beardo

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SouthSideNuggs said:
It really dont matter because even though dems are in favor they really look at it as a tax thing. Here in colorado they pass it and then tax and regulate it so much that you cant afoord it and now thay are making it impossable to grow with all these regulations.they get the votes to pass initially then regulate the shit out of it so whats the differance either way it still jacked up.
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that's why i'm voteing no on 19- their selling it as the legalization of marijuana and most people seem to belive that is what it is so it will get passed and we will get screwed.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Parker said:
Your body is your property and you can do whatever you want to with it, as long as you do not step on the rights of others.
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yet somehow you reconcile this with being anti-choice. interesting.

and as far as the op goes, both repubs and democrats are technically against legalization. i haven't seen a single nominated candidate or elected official come out and support legalization, kucinich and paul aside. there may be more, i'm not sure.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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you say your body is your property and you can do what you want with it.

correct me if i'm wrong, but you also take an anti-choice stance on a woman's right to choose.

how the hell do you reconcile that?
 
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Parker

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UncleBuck said:
you say your body is your property and you can do what you want with it.

correct me if i'm wrong, but you also take an anti-choice stance on a woman's right to choose.

how the hell do you reconcile that?
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ANOTHER anti choice statement????? You're making things up. Where is this anti choice example besides your false interpretation of what I believe the right to life entails.
You misinterpret the right to life as a choice that should be MADE by another. The right to life is a decision that should be made by that person. Hence no death penalty. No one has the right to take your property.

The right to life trumps property rights, without the right to life you have no property rights. You yourself are property.
 
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