Who is Better off Than They Were Four Years Ago

abandonconflict said:

What is your point? My point is, maybe if they weren't deployed so god damned much there wouldn't be 18 suicides a day.

I wasn't implying it is all because of homesickness, I meant to imply that your friend who likes being deployed is a rare case.

Click to expand...

I think you're really getting to the heart of a real problem. Our soldiers are being abused. I have a friend that's had 4 deployments over the last 7 years. I know he's hardly a rare case, were asking too much from too few.

I wish the public was better informed about how much were asking of our soldiers now.

ink the world said:

I think you're really getting to the heart of a real problem. Our soldiers are being abused. I have a friend that's had 4 deployments over the last 7 years. I know he's hardly a rare case, were asking too much from too few.

I wish the public was better informed about how much were asking of our soldiers now.

Click to expand...

Fuckin A...

Exactly my point. That is what the high suicide rates imply. It is tragic.

abandonconflict said:

What is your point? My point is, maybe if they weren't deployed so god damned much there wouldn't be 18 suicides a day.

I wasn't implying it is all because of homesickness, I meant to imply that your friend who likes being deployed is a rare case.

Click to expand...

he actually hates being deployed but loves the fact that his family is the best off its been in years becuz of it.

wheels619 said:

he actually hates being deployed but loves the fact that his family is the best off its been in years becuz of it.

Click to expand...

Really, sorry to come off as a dick, your friend deserves it and much more but more than that, I'm glad he has a positive outlook on it. Now the reason for my preemptive apology for coming off as a dick, that friend of yours is either a Pogue, or too high ranking to ever see danger. Nonetheless, he deserves his prosperity.

abandonconflict said:

Really, sorry to come off as a dick, your friend deserves it and much more but more than that, I'm glad he has a positive outlook on it. Now the reason for my preemptive apology for coming off as a dick, that friend of yours is either a Pogue, or too high ranking to ever see danger. Nonetheless, he deserves his prosperity.

Click to expand...

sgt isnt to high to see the danger. its right in the middle of it in fact. how do u think he made sgt? tours overseas. multiple tours overseas. now he is about to make rank again becuz of it. u cant be infantry and not see danger.

wheels619 said:

sgt isnt to high to see the danger. its right in the middle of it in fact. how do u think he made sgt? tours overseas. multiple tours overseas. now he is about to make rank again becuz of it. u cant be infantry and not see danger.

Click to expand...

ok dude. Cool, deploying as a grunt is so awesome, fuck being at home with family, you would know, you have a friend who told you...



what would I know, I only served with the infantry for 4 deployments myself.



If you friend likes it, he needs his head checked

abandonconflict said:

ok dude. Cool, deploying as a grunt is so awesome, fuck being at home with family, you would know, you have a friend who told you...



what would I know, I only served with the infantry for 4 deployments myself.



If you friend likes it, he needs his head checked

Click to expand...

i never said he liked it. i said he liked the stability its brought his family. and yeah im not serving but thats not my choice anymore. the army wont take a guy back that has a broken back with permanent paralysis. i went in. i got hurt on leave and got discharged without most benefits and pay becuz my accident was my fault and they told me before i left on leave to not do anything stupid to risk my health. well i risked it and failed. med bills were covered thanks to trycare which i now have for life but still have to pay for. so i basically screwed myself. but i would be over there just like any other man and woman serving if i could still...

UncleBuck said:

how are all these people doing better? don't you guys want to return to 4 years ago, when we were losing 800,000 jobs a month, AIG and lehman were crashing, and the entire economy was about to eat the dust?

doesn't anyone want to return to those glory days?

Click to expand...

Economically speaking, I'd love nothing better than to go back to 2000,2001,2002,2003,2004,2005,2006,2007 and got a grip on Fannie and Freddie in those early years when the democrats claimed they were doing just fine!

beenthere said:

Economically speaking, I'd love nothing better than to go back to 2000,2001,2002,2003,2004,2005,2006,2007 and got a grip on Fannie and Freddie in those early years when the democrats claimed they were doing just fine!

Click to expand...

How bout 08 beenthere? would you like to go back there? the culmination of Bush's long campaing of destruction of the economy?

canndo said:

How bout 08 beenthere? would you like to go back there? the culmination of Bush's long campaing of destruction of the economy?

Click to expand...

Obama was president in 08. Don't ya know!

mr2shim said:

Obama was president in 08. Don't ya know!

Click to expand...

Oh yeah, I forgot. He managed to screw everything up in a few months. Of course Bush's having been attacked on - today 11 years ago was not Bush's fault.

canndo said:

Oh yeah, I forgot. He managed to screw everything up in a few months. Of course Bush's having been attacked on - today 11 years ago was not Bush's fault.

Click to expand...

Yea Bush had it hard in 08, he had to deal with 9/11, even though it was 7 years later! Shits hard man! Obama completely fucked up the Economy, pretty sure he was a cosponsor of GLBA

canndo said:

Of course Bush's having been attacked on - today 11 years ago was not Bush's fault.

Click to expand...

Some on here think that it was.

canndo said:

How bout 08 beenthere? would you like to go back there? the culmination of Bush's long campaing of destruction of the economy?

Click to expand...

Read the part in my last post about getting a grip on Fannie and Freddie and how democrats like Barney Frank, the chairman finance committee and Chris Dodd the chairman senate banking committee told us all they were doing just fine.

mr2shim said:

Yea Bush had it hard in 08, he had to deal with 9/11, even though it was 7 years later! Shits hard man! Obama completely fucked up the Economy, pretty sure he was a cosponsor of GLBA

Click to expand...

Obama didn't have shit to do with the 2008 recession, but he was put in office to bring the economy out of it and he has failed miserably!

The guy never owned or ran a business in his life. was a community organizer, what did people expect? LOL

beenthere said:

Read the part in my last post about getting a grip on Fannie and Freddie and how democrats like Barney Frank, the chairman finance committee and Chris Dodd the chairman senate banking committee told us all they were doing just fine.

Click to expand...

You aren't going to let go of this "It's all Barney Frank, Fannie and Freddie, the poor and Clinton's fault" are you? even though we have pitched article after article contradicting that notion to you.

The short of it is that poor people and the CRA did not cause the crash. Nor have you mentioned a war, an unfunded medicare change, and a tax cut that we are still contending with. Had that tax cut alone not been enacted when we didn't NEED it, our debt would be much lower and we might even have some room to cut taxes in order to get us out of this mess (presuming that is what you believe).

beenthere said:

Obama didn't have shit to do with the 2008 recession, but he was put in office to bring the economy out of it and he has failed miserably!

The guy never owned or ran a business in his life. was a community organizer, what did people expect? LOL

Click to expand...

Did you expect him to overnight? How long do you think it would have taken YOU to do it? Honestly. If you can criticize surely you could have done a better job, so let's hear it.

Better watch out slinging around facts, someone might say in the 4 years mittens was in office Massachusetts was almost dead last in job growth. You know,... a fact. Or that when he got to Bain capital jobs started disappearing, aka people were laid off

mr2shim said:

Did you expect him to overnight? How long do you think it would have taken YOU to do it? Honestly. If you can criticize surely you could have done a better job, so let's hear it.

Better watch out slinging around facts, someone might say in the 4 years mittens was in office Massachusetts was almost dead last in job growth. You know,... a fact. Or that when he got to Bain capital jobs started disappearing, aka people were laid off

Click to expand...

Hell, I think that citizens moved out of the state in order to get jobs.

Beenthere will likely say that lowering taxes on the "job creators" will turn the economy around on a dime, what he won't tell you is that corporations are posting record profits - that is they have lots of money, and they are not "creating" jobs.

Oh, maybe it is the regulations that are preventing their finally going out and hiring - even though there is no evidence that regs are the cause of their failure to do so.

canndo said:

Hell, I think that citizens moved out of the state in order to get jobs.

Beenthere will likely say that lowering taxes on the "job creators" will turn the economy around on a dime, what he won't tell you is that corporations are posting record profits - that is they have lots of money, and they are not "creating" jobs.

Oh, maybe it is the regulations that are preventing their finally going out and hiring - even though there is no evidence that regs are the cause of their failure to do so.

Click to expand...

Maybe its all tbe tax breaks companies get to hire new employeesor the other 17 tax breaks

canndo said:

Hell, I think that citizens moved out of the state in order to get jobs.

Beenthere will likely say that lowering taxes on the "job creators" will turn the economy around on a dime, what he won't tell you is that corporations are posting record profits - that is they have lots of money, and they are not "creating" jobs.

Oh, maybe it is the regulations that are preventing their finally going out and hiring - even though there is no evidence that regs are the cause of their failure to do so.

Click to expand...

I sometimes wonder if people like him are paid to support conservatives and corporations. I can't fathom anyone believing the shit they say unless they're paid off.