Which would produce more DO in a DWC?
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JSB99
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The White Widow rooted super-quick, and grew really compact. I really like the aggressiveness of them, but they grow so compact and dense that I found them difficult to keep up with. I'll do a scrog with either the Gorilla Cookies, or Girl Scout Crack, which is what the above pics are.It happens some strains like it some dont
If its a first or seed run its always a guessing game
JSB99
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Cleaning tips for noobs:
To clean the inside of your small pipes and tubes, take a length of nylon cord, and run it through the pipe. If you have curves and corners, run water through the pipe you're working with, and feed the rope into the pipe at the same time. The water will carry the cord through to the other side. Once passed through, tie a knot just smaller than the diameter of the tube or pipe, then floss
If you have a lot of corners in your smaller PVC pipes, you can use a vacuum to suck one end of the cord through.
To clean larger pvc, pass the cord through the pipe, tie corners of a washcloth with each end of the cord, then floss
It's really important to clean all your gear very thoroughly. When designing your system, take great consideration into how far you can break it down between grows, for easy cleaning. It only took about an hour to break everything down yesterday, and a couple hours of cleaning.
To clean the inside of your small pipes and tubes, take a length of nylon cord, and run it through the pipe. If you have curves and corners, run water through the pipe you're working with, and feed the rope into the pipe at the same time. The water will carry the cord through to the other side. Once passed through, tie a knot just smaller than the diameter of the tube or pipe, then floss
If you have a lot of corners in your smaller PVC pipes, you can use a vacuum to suck one end of the cord through.
To clean larger pvc, pass the cord through the pipe, tie corners of a washcloth with each end of the cord, then floss
It's really important to clean all your gear very thoroughly. When designing your system, take great consideration into how far you can break it down between grows, for easy cleaning. It only took about an hour to break everything down yesterday, and a couple hours of cleaning.
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JSB99
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I've got my four girls in soil, but something weird's happening. My temps are at least 5 degrees warmer than when I was running the RDWC, and I'm only using the 600w right now. There are two things that I think might be causing this, but I'm not entirely sure.
The one in the back was a tad thirsty
- I always kept the water in the dwc hovering around 69 degrees. I also had a fan blowing across the surface of the water to help keep it cool, via evaporatice cooling. I also keep my air pump cool by exhausting the tent air across it. I'm wondering if all these things put together, along with the plants, were helping to keep the tent cool.
- The HPS light is losing it's energy, and running hotter. This seems unlikely though, as it's fairly new, and still registers the correct lumins.
The one in the back was a tad thirsty
JSB99
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So, I wanted to share the results of my harvest. It was fairly disappointing. I yielded a pound, and a bit of that was borderline larf. This was the first time I had tried not trimming, and I had such a thick canopy of leaves that it blocked out the majority of light. I didn't get tops rising up throught the canopy, like I was expecting. I'm going back to trimming, and I'm going to compare this grow against the last.
I had four plants in soil, a week or so into veg, waiting to go. These are the same four plants I just grew (Girl Scout Crack, Gorilla Cookies, and two White Widows. I'll have to take into account that one was hydro and this one is soil. I'm already seeing a huge difference in growth between the two. There's such aggressive growth with the dwc compaired to the soil. I'm like, "what the hell, hurry up and grow!". From what I understand, flowering is pretty much the same between the two styles of growing. It's in rooting and veg the hydro is much faster than soil.
The reason I'm growing in soil is because it's a bitch trying to keep the res cool in the summer. You pretty much have to use a chiller, to avoid issues. The pumps create heat as well. It's either grow in soil under the 1k, or hydro under the 600.
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I had four plants in soil, a week or so into veg, waiting to go. These are the same four plants I just grew (Girl Scout Crack, Gorilla Cookies, and two White Widows. I'll have to take into account that one was hydro and this one is soil. I'm already seeing a huge difference in growth between the two. There's such aggressive growth with the dwc compaired to the soil. I'm like, "what the hell, hurry up and grow!". From what I understand, flowering is pretty much the same between the two styles of growing. It's in rooting and veg the hydro is much faster than soil.
The reason I'm growing in soil is because it's a bitch trying to keep the res cool in the summer. You pretty much have to use a chiller, to avoid issues. The pumps create heat as well. It's either grow in soil under the 1k, or hydro under the 600.
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Cold$moke
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Right on bro!
Yea i havent posted my results yet on my thread either i just weighed the last of it yesterday just cuase i did not get even close to my goal with half my room getting stunted
haha but i did not stay optimal either so im not being too hard on my self but i didnt even hit 1gpw this run
I also may be switching out systems for summer
Due to heat as well.
Havent decided about half my room but one rdwc set up is definitely coming out to play with other designs
But i havent gone the dirt path yet so ill still be doing hydro....just one thats not temp sensitive like dwc can be hopefully.
Looking good JSB99!
Yea i havent posted my results yet on my thread either i just weighed the last of it yesterday just cuase i did not get even close to my goal with half my room getting stunted
haha but i did not stay optimal either so im not being too hard on my self but i didnt even hit 1gpw this run
I also may be switching out systems for summer
Due to heat as well.
Havent decided about half my room but one rdwc set up is definitely coming out to play with other designs
But i havent gone the dirt path yet so ill still be doing hydro....just one thats not temp sensitive like dwc can be hopefully.
Looking good JSB99!
JSB99
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We all have our refrigerator door-worthy scorecards, as well as the ones eaten by that mischiefous dog LOL!
One upside to dirt is that it doesn't take a lot of hands-on maintenance, in both the plants and equipment. A downside...hand watering them and mixing nutes every other day. I've got everything I need to set up a drip system, but that's just one more thing I've got to build, and I've got other hobbies going on. I still like to tinker in there, and fine tune stuff though
Cold$moke
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Yep i need to be working on the new system now but with summer comes many things that spreads me too thin
We only have a few months of "summer" so its hard to get to everything lol
I had mabey a few grams of larf all the buds where legit
Just didnt hit the weight i wanted
Im just going to set up a dirt simple nft setup
No air. Just a res, a pump, and a timer .
We only have a few months of "summer" so its hard to get to everything lol
I had mabey a few grams of larf all the buds where legit
Just didnt hit the weight i wanted
Im just going to set up a dirt simple nft setup
No air. Just a res, a pump, and a timer .
JSB99
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I had been doing the frozen water jug thing, and I was able to maintain temps, but I had to stay on top of it throughout the day. That was when temps were cooler. I doubt I'd be able to keep up with it during the summer.
JSB99
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That's cool! Even the micro-bubbles are cool, especially compared to my pump and stones. I wonder if it uses electrolysis to create the DO.
PetFlora
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the person who posted replied with a bit more info
https://steemit.com/steemit/@verbz/fantastic-properties-of-nano-bubbles Making nano bubbles that remain in the water for months which super saturates the water with whatever gas you and checked. For purposes of drinking and in taking massive amounts of oxygen which suppresses cancer. For plant growth, cleaning bodies of water, so salt water and freshwater fish can be in the same aquarium tank, to emulsify liquids without a surfactant, and many more benefits.
https://steemit.com/steemit/@verbz/fantastic-properties-of-nano-bubbles Making nano bubbles that remain in the water for months which super saturates the water with whatever gas you and checked. For purposes of drinking and in taking massive amounts of oxygen which suppresses cancer. For plant growth, cleaning bodies of water, so salt water and freshwater fish can be in the same aquarium tank, to emulsify liquids without a surfactant, and many more benefits.
JSB99
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To quote Neo, "Whoa!"
PetFlora
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This could be a big deal for hydro. I saw a different YT video today where the nanobubbles stay in the solution for hours. That would eliminate air stones, pumps etc.
https://www.o2grow.com/
https://www.o2grow.com/
JSB99
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No doubt! It'll probably cost a small fortune when it first hits the markets, I'm sure.
Cold$moke
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The only thing extra needed in my oppinon is some movement of the water.
DO levels needed by a plant are pretty easy too achieve.
But the problem comes when circulation of the DO doesnt circulate throughout the root ball
I think of the roots in a similar way as the top side of the plant..leaves use up co2 levels quickly around them thats why circulation fans are necessary in doors.
The roots are similar in that they will branch off when cut just like the top of the plant and will
Use up DO around them and need it replenished
At least in my oppinon im not a botanist
DO levels needed by a plant are pretty easy too achieve.
But the problem comes when circulation of the DO doesnt circulate throughout the root ball
I think of the roots in a similar way as the top side of the plant..leaves use up co2 levels quickly around them thats why circulation fans are necessary in doors.
The roots are similar in that they will branch off when cut just like the top of the plant and will
Use up DO around them and need it replenished
At least in my oppinon im not a botanist