What is torture?

kappainf said:

Yes I think everyone should be tortured, including protestors, you, and especially those on the no fly list. Are you serious?

I love America and I think we should do anything we can to protect it. I never said we should torture anyone. I think torture is wrong. I think killing people, especially innocent people is wrong. However, that is what happens in wars.

Lets put it this way. If someone you loved was killed by a terrorist attack, god forbid, and it could have been prevented if someone was waterboarded..... see where i'm goin' with this.

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not really, but then again judging by your other post it just seems like you trying to clean yourself up after Keenley called you out.

kappainf said:

First of all torture certainly does work. Second, what the US does to terrorists and prisoners is not torture. I wish our military could be more harsh with interrogative techniques. Why would anyone give a shit if a terrorist got smacked around a little bit? Is everyone losing their balls? Is there really enough pussy americans out there, that we need to be nice to people that want to destroy America? I hope not, I would still like to think that the majority of Americans still have a pair. If war is scary to you and you can't handle the reality of what war really is, then don't get involved.

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It is exactly this short sighted malevolent idiotic view that has caused the world to look at America with hatred.

Our definitions of torture are different, where do you draw the line. It is a fine line, that's all. I don't think waterboarding is torture, obviously.

you just said you wished harsher techniques were available... hmm how to perpetuate more violence and terrorism...The terrorists responsible for the London attrocities on 7/7 filmed themselves before hand and spoke openly about their discust at how British and American troops were humiliating and torturing Iraqi prisoners, and how this angered them into terrorism. Cant you see that torture does nothing to aid your cause, exactly the opposite imo.

kappainf said:

First of all torture certainly does work. Second, what the US does to terrorists and prisoners is not torture. I wish our military could be more harsh with interrogative techniques. Why would anyone give a shit if a terrorist got smacked around a little bit? Is everyone losing their balls? Is there really enough pussy americans out there, that we need to be nice to people that want to destroy America? I hope not, I would still like to think that the majority of Americans still have a pair. If war is scary to you and you can't handle the reality of what war really is, then don't get involved.

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Dude you sicken me, I spent 8 years in the Marine Corps and I KNOW what torture is and isn't. You have been watching so much TV and TV Propaganda for so long you forgot how to think for yourself.

Well..... at least my question asking if people still had balls has been answered.

kappainf said:

Well..... at least my question asking if people still had balls has been answered.

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Why such a fixation on others genitalias?

FlyLikeAnEagle said:

Why such a fixation on others genitalias?

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Aren't you sharp. It's called figurative language, or figuratively speaking. If you are implying that I like men, I do not. You can quit PMing me your phone number.

kappainf said:

Aren't you sharp. It's called figurative language, or figuratively speaking. If you are implying that I like men, I do not. You can quit PMing me your phone number.

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This comment has confirmed to me you are probably under 21...

I've been waterboarded... and if you think it's "squirting people with water" you are a fucking nitwit...

kappainf said:

Our definitions of torture are different, where do you draw the line. It is a fine line, that's all. I don't think waterboarding is torture, obviously.

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Waterboarding is white torture.

Sliding reeds under finger nails is black torture.

You don't know enough about torture (obviously) to have an opinion on it... so just crawl back under your rock and wait for it to happen to you.

Waterboarding is not torture?

Would you consider drowning torture?

I'm guessing you would... so drowning is torture, but simulated drowning isn't?

Explain to me why you think torture works at obtaining correct information. Wouldn't a suspect simply give up whatever he thought you wanted to hear to stop the pain? How can you be sure the information is even correct once you obtain it?

International law prohibits torture. Our Constitution prohibits cruel and unusual punishment, 8th amendment.

It's clear you have a skewed idea of what torture actually is. Torture is anything being done to someone against their will, that's it. Depriving someone of sleep is torture, punching and kicking someone definitely qualifies as torture, waterboarding without a doubt is torture..

Not to mention the fact that some of these 'terrorist suspects' have actually DIED during the CIA's 'harsh interrogation techniques'...


So bottom line... it doesn't do what it's designed to do... it creates more terrorism and international hatred of the USA, it's allies, and it's policies and values, and it devides us as a nation among those that support it and those that oppose it ultimately weakening us as a whole...