What Is Stealth?? Seedbank Practices Discussed

speedyseedz said:

just for clairficatoin, nirvana and seedboutique have no relation, seperate companies.

seedboutique and icmag, yes, thats the same people.

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^^^^^pwned

My internet just screwed up so The big long post I was gonaa post is gone but let me say this. People think I am saying that theses seedbanks WILL screw you. That is not what I am saying at all. I am simply saying that there are some that WONT screw you because they are honest businesses just providing a product. All I am saying is there are plenty of great banks out there so whyy trust dealing with an OK bank. I am done with this post as I feel my point has been made and those of that see my point cool and those that dont good luck to ya. Im out. Got shit to grow.

speedyseedz said:

just for clairficatoin, nirvana and seedboutique have no relation, seperate companies.

seedboutique and icmag, yes, thats the same people.

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Oops, I guess I should have been more specific. Gypsy Nirvana delivers.

I have no experience with the Nirvana site, though, have had indirect experience with the Nirvana seeds. Years ago I believe they were F1s or F2s which is why they were cheap.

Here is Gypsy's shop that we visited.

homebrewer said:

Oops, I guess I should have been more specific. Gypsy Nirvana delivers.

I have no experience with the Nirvana site, though, have had indirect experience with the Nirvana seeds. Years ago I believe they were F1s or F2s which is why they were cheap.

Here is Gypsy's shop that we visited.

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Is that the picture of the Nirvana shop you work at?

speedyseedz said:

just for clairficatoin, nirvana and seedboutique have no relation, seperate companies.

seedboutique and icmag, yes, thats the same people.

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The man, the myth, the legend! When you've got the owner of a seedbank online talking directly to you in forums, that just seems like a good way to go.

hamanu23 said:

Is that the picture of the Nirvana shop you work at?

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This is Gypsy's shop in Amsterdam which is not to be confused with Nirvana seeds .

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fly air canada
round trip tickit from chicago - toronto = $400.00 usd
stay one night in hotel = $150.00 usd
hindu kush seeds & fat skunk = $200.00 usd
miss. = $200.00 usd
bringing seeds over the boarder in my ass cavaty, then growing my own strain forever = $priceless.00 usd

for eveything else there's master card

I have had my share of promblems with attuide so far. First order I used a fake name and the postmaster return it on there own. Email attuide and they were willing to work with me, and and made up for it on my 3rd order. Made my 3rd order for feb. promoition and the left out 3 of the seeds and and double charged my gift cards. So i emailed them, and the cards I had were no reloadable so I placed my 4th order yesterday for the extra charge and they are also including my missing seeds from my previous order. my 2nd order went great.

So I will say, the attuide has worked with me and my promblems and had a great costumer support. i am extremely happy has rachel went above and beyond with my promblems. So yea, i dont mind paying the extra for stealth shipping and getting a cool shirt or a coffee mug as there support has been great for me.

I just think its funny that few threads I have read you want to say something about the shipping methods, if you dont like it, dont order from it. Why do you care if we prefer to pay the extra money for are seeds. Not bash speedy, but his site did no impress me from the first time I looked at it, and never had lured me to go back and look and try to order anything. His selection is small and it dont jump out to me and make me feel like I am getting a bargin. His prices are close to attuide except for the shipping. Hell, i dont mind paying an etra 11pounds for my order when i am getting 4-7 seeds for free.


I know, spelling sucks so no reason to bash it also.

speedyseedz took 6 days to get my order from the uk to california. Is that even possible ??? speedy gets my highest recomendation.

IAm5toned said:

ive used quite a few banks in the past.
speedy is the best, imho.
dude is just trying to feed his family, and run a straight up business, and it shows in his customer service.
attitude, nirvana, and single seecs have fucked me in the past, it was non shipment, non-viable product, and seizure by customs, respectively.
neither of those 3 banks did a damn thing about it, except attitude, which 'offered to send extra freebies' on my next order.... lol like i would order again from them. idiots.
my first buy through speedy got seized, and when i informed him, 9 days later i got an envelope with my complete order, and an extra breeders pack (10 seeds now, not a lil baggie with 3 mystery seeds in it) 9 days later. thats not too shabby for crossing the atlantic, and half of north america to get to me.

and for the record, im not pimping speedyseedz. i paid for my shit, but he's a straight up guy, least i can do is spread the word he took care of my order the way you would expect.
so thats my opinion on banks... take it or leave it, i dont care.

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Non viable seeds are not the fault of attitude seed bank, they sell the seeds don't make them
You should be pissed with the company who produced the seeds not the site who sold them to you

I paid for the stealth shipping because even if my beans got taken by customs they would reship for free and keep on shipping until i got my beans. I agree stealth is not a bulky package but the guarentee was worth it for me.

I think you are a bit confused about the stealth option. If customs takes your beans they DO NOT reship them. The only time they reship is if you do not get the package. Anyone can say they didnt get their seeds if that was the case. If the tracking info says it was delivered then beans or no beans they are not going to reship.

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I think you are a bit confused about the stealth option. If customs takes your beans they DO NOT reship them. The only time they reship is if you do not get the package. Anyone can say they didn't get their seeds if that was the case. If the tracking info says it was delivered then beans or no beans they are not going to reship.

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Yea its true. Everyone would ask for endless re-sends and free seeds if that were true. If one looks at the FAQ on many of the sites mentioned Nirvana, Attitude,Dr Chronic...most say clearly that if customs gets your seeds they aren't liable DON'T re-send. Many are starting to come right out and say they no longer send to the US (sensi seeds) or Australia (Nirvana) because customs just takes every package.

I don't really have a problem with paying extra and getting a T-Shirt or Cap. But more important, I am talking about how to make sure the seeds arrive one way or the other. And what this thread begins to boil down to is:

1) Order from a bank that is CURRENTLY quoted by many here and elsewhere as having been successful. (so far both Speedy and Seed Boutique look good right now)

2) Possibly order from a bank that is not located in the Netherlands as that seems to be a huge red flag to US customs.

3)If you have success keep ordering from that bank and tell us about it on this forum.

4) If you have waited so long that your grow room is completely finished (carbon filters and all) and you have run a trial tomato crop all the way to harvest then flying to Toronto (or if your in Europe Holland) is the only real alternative.

I am not hating on seed banks I am just trying to get my grow started.

Great post man. Couldnt have said it better myself. Rep+

I ordered from speedy last week. I will let you know how it goes.

There is always going to be a level of uncertaintly when you are trying to purchase something that is illegal in most countries. I ordered seeds for the first time last week from attitude and they were at my door in a little over a week with the 11 seeds I ordered and the 1 freebie they promised. No stealth shipping, just the DVD case.

Wow! 1 whole freebie? Seed Boutique sent me 16 and I have read that Speedy gives a handsome freebie package. Hey how much was your total shipping cost with the DVD case? Probably around $15? $15 to ship a few seeds? Good deal!!!

10$ or so isn't really to bad of a price for a shirt or something and attitude for example it is not guranteed if you don't get the stealth so I don't really feel safe not picking stealth cause if they dont arrive then their is no gurantee so...

The only thing that is guaranteed is that you get a package. The dont guaratee you get your beans if customs takes it. Just the package. So what difference does it make what kind of package the beans are in? If your package gets pulled for inspection it doesnt matter if its an envelope or a box car your beans are getting taken and the package will make it to your house with no beans and they ARE NOT gonna ship new beans because tracking says you got your package so as far as they are concerned you got your beans.

lmao @ $priceless.00 usd