Whack it at the base - WHOLE plant drying

stumpjumper

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So this harvest I have cut 7 plants and left the leaves all intact.. What a fucking pain in the ass to trim, but I have to agree, the smell is tenfold compared to buds that were trimmed prior to drying.

Still a pain in the ass, but I'll probably quit trimming before drying from now on.
 

ru4r34l

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So this harvest I have cut 7 plants and left the leaves all intact.. What a fucking pain in the ass to trim, but I have to agree, the smell is tenfold compared to buds that were trimmed prior to drying.

Still a pain in the ass, but I'll probably quit trimming before drying from now on.
I find limp trimming to be the worst, rather have loss of smell early on an ease of trimming; the smell eventually will return, the time wasted trying to neatly trim limp fan and sugar leaves cannot be regained.

regards,
 

HighLowGrow

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So this harvest I have cut 7 plants and left the leaves all intact.. What a fucking pain in the ass to trim, but I have to agree, the smell is tenfold compared to buds that were trimmed prior to drying.

Still a pain in the ass, but I'll probably quit trimming before drying from now on.

What was the RH during the hang/dry? Are you saying the dry leaves stuck to the buds too much?
 

Redoctober

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So are you supposed to trim while the leaves are limp?... because I waited until they were a but more dry and crisp before the trim. Is that too dry?
 

zubey91

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where are you located? i live in COlorado a really dry state.. i often have problems with low humidity.. i'm abotu to chop a bluedream and do a full plant dry.. thanks for starting this thread!
 

HighLowGrow

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So are you supposed to trim while the leaves are limp?... because I waited until they were a but more dry and crisp before the trim. Is that too dry?
I didn't quite get that either. If the leaves are limp, the plant isn't dry. Although, on my first plant, everything was pretty dry and brittle but I did notice a FEW fan leaves that were limp.
 

HighLowGrow

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Below is UNKNOWN plant day 2 of hanging with a couple random bud shots.

RH 60%
temp 55

Need to get that temp up a bit.

whole plant #2 day 2.jpgunknown another day 2.jpgunknown day 2.jpg
 

unknown1231

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This is a great post!

I just followed this method myself and after 7 days trimmed and jarred. Literally 5 minutes after jarring I have nothing but piney citrus smell and its amazing, I can already tell this is going to be really great. The ONLY downside to this is trimming becomes a bit more difficult, you get a little more sticky in the process ;)

My last harvest I had chopped the girls, trimmed all buds, cut branches/buds off into smaller portions and hung them all to dry. After about 3-5 days I migrated the buds to jars for curing. The result was terribly green smelling bud that only gradually got better with curing. It was no where near what it could have been had I just hung the whole plant without removing any foliage.

A+ METHOD. THANK YOU!

EDIT: My temps for the recent whole plant dry were 60-70, RH at 45-55% for 7 days.
 

Redoctober

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That's awesome Unknown1231! Thanks for posting your results along with temp and RH! This will be useful to many.

HighLowGrow, I am going to do the same as you, keep the RH around 55-60. It may seem on the high side but the buds I have are not coke bottles, the are on the small and airy side and will dry out quick if RH isn't at or above 55%, even on the vine. I'm looking to time it so I get a 7-10 day dry.

I am guessing from what people are saying that if you dry to the point that the leaves are rigid and somewhat crisp, you've gone too far, even if it does take 10 days to get there; is that the consensus?
 

unknown1231

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That's awesome Unknown1231! Thanks for posting your results along with temp and RH! This will be useful to many.

HighLowGrow, I am going to do the same as you, keep the RH around 55-60. It may seem on the high side but the buds I have are not coke bottles, the are on the small and airy side and will dry out quick if RH isn't at or above 55%, even on the vine. I'm looking to time it so I get a 7-10 day dry.

I am guessing from what people are saying that if you dry to the point that the leaves are rigid and somewhat crisp, you've gone too far, even if it does take 10 days to get there; is that the consensus?
My leaves were crisp at 5-6 days, by 7 I could feel a lot less moisture in the buds when squeezing them. This particular harvest is all small buds, had I decided not to top the girls and get big buds I would leave them to hang for longer. I believe the science behind this method is that while the plant dries the cells begin to transfer sugars and other things into the stem. If you were to trim everything wet and cut the buds off this would lock in all of the sugars and chlorophyll.

My buds are still not fully dried. At this point I plan on jarring and burping for the next week or so.
 

HighLowGrow

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That's awesome Unknown1231! Thanks for posting your results along with temp and RH! This will be useful to many.

HighLowGrow, I am going to do the same as you, keep the RH around 55-60. It may seem on the high side but the buds I have are not coke bottles, the are on the small and airy side and will dry out quick if RH isn't at or above 55%, even on the vine. I'm looking to time it so I get a 7-10 day dry.

I am guessing from what people are saying that if you dry to the point that the leaves are rigid and somewhat crisp, you've gone too far, even if it does take 10 days to get there; is that the consensus?



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1. This is what I experienced on the first plant with temps at 60-65 and humidity running between 40%-55%. 8 days hanging.

2. So I'm guessing on the current plant, if I keep temps around 60-70 and maintain humidity at 55-60%, 8-10 days would be perfect. <<< This is what I'm currently shooting for.
 

HighLowGrow

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This is a great post!

I just followed this method myself and after 7 days trimmed and jarred. Literally 5 minutes after jarring I have nothing but piney citrus smell and its amazing, I can already tell this is going to be really great. The ONLY downside to this is trimming becomes a bit more difficult, you get a little more sticky in the process ;)

My last harvest I had chopped the girls, trimmed all buds, cut branches/buds off into smaller portions and hung them all to dry. After about 3-5 days I migrated the buds to jars for curing. The result was terribly green smelling bud that only gradually got better with curing. It was no where near what it could have been had I just hung the whole plant without removing any foliage.

A+ METHOD. THANK YOU!

EDIT: My temps for the recent whole plant dry were 60-70, RH at 45-55% for 7 days.

NICE....Glad the thread helped.

I really liked how my first plant turned out with roughly the same temp and hum as you had. Just a tad crispy. Smell was great.

On the next harvest, will you duplicate what you did above, or up the hum some?
 

unknown1231

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NICE....Glad the thread helped.

I really liked how my first plant turned out with roughly the same temp and hum as you had. Just a tad crispy. Smell was great.

On the next harvest, will you duplicate what you did above, or up the hum some?
I have an update on my experience. Since jarring overnight I'm sad to say that the dreaded green smell has arrived. I'm thinking maybe I jarred too quickly. Thankfully this is only one plant and since they all seem to be finishing at different times I'll have the opportunity to try again and again and again ;)

I just took down another girl last night, she will hang for at least 10 days, probably closer to 14. This time around I'm going to let the buds get DRY instead of somewhat dry. I'll update you guys in a couple weeks and we'll see how she is!
 

HighLowGrow

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Sounds good. Thanks alot for the update!

Also update on what you're doing about the "green smell" and how it turns out.
 

cannabiscultivation

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My leaves were crisp at 5-6 days, by 7 I could feel a lot less moisture in the buds when squeezing them. This particular harvest is all small buds, had I decided not to top the girls and get big buds I would leave them to hang for longer. I believe the science behind this method is that while the plant dries the cells begin to transfer sugars and other things into the stem. If you were to trim everything wet and cut the buds off this would lock in all of the sugars and chlorophyll.

My buds are still not fully dried. At this point I plan on jarring and burping for the next week or so.
My understanding is ....it USES the sugars and they transpirate into energy to keep it alive while off the bush.{IF CERTAIN TOLERANCES ARE MAINTAINED!!!!}
Try smoking sugar and you will find out what bad taste is.
the dark is so it can't replenish it's sugar supply and the temp and humidity allow a SLOW bleed out of said plant.
 

unknown1231

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Sounds good. Thanks alot for the update!

Also update on what you're doing about the "green smell" and how it turns out.
For the green smell I'm leaving my buds out for maybe an hour every 12 hours, ensuring they're crispy before I re-jar. I'm slowly noticing a nice smell return. More to follow.
 

xmax

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If most leaves start to get dry before 9 days, I'll drape a hefty-bag over it. That'll 'skunk it up' overnight, and bring up the humidity again in order to prolong the drying process.
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Redoctober

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I have an update on my experience. Since jarring overnight I'm sad to say that the dreaded green smell has arrived. I'm thinking maybe I jarred too quickly. Thankfully this is only one plant and since they all seem to be finishing at different times I'll have the opportunity to try again and again and again ;) I just took down another girl last night, she will hang for at least 10 days, probably closer to 14. This time around I'm going to let the buds get DRY instead of somewhat dry. I'll update you guys in a couple weeks and we'll see how she is!
Yup, this is exactly what happened to me. I think a longer dry with a humidifier will help. That's what I'm doing now, in addition to finishing the plant with 48 hours of darkness to hopefully consume some of the excess sugar.
 
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