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Solis Altilis

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Merica_Mike said:
What soil are you using? What nutes are you using? What is the ph of your feed when you water? Looks like a deficiency to me, but I'm not too experienced when it comes to diagnosing problems. I will say she looks thirsty though. Either that or heat stress causing the wilting.
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Fox farm ocean forest w/ ~25% perlite. No amendments.
currently only using biobizz biobloom for every watering. 1 3/4 tsps per gallon, I know that's low but it's so dry and hot she's been watered every day through out her life. So she gets fed every day as well. Because of that i dose her half strength. The temps just fell down into the 80's this week and humidity is up as well now so I might switch to watering her every other day. But when ever I don't water her for a day even if it's in the low 80's the weak yellow leaves droop and wilt hard hard. But then it's I think it's easy to get her to droop from watering as well. I'm sure I just haven't managed her wet and dry cycles well. Sometimes is 105'F w/ 15% humidity, and other times its 90'F with 50% humidity. and it drops to 65-70'F at night w/ 75-85% humidity. Sometimes there is constant 15mph winds all day long, other times its dead still.
Cheap inaccurate pH strips and drops have me between 7.0-7.5 going in w/feed
I've tried to catch water coming out, doesn't go well, maybe 5.8-6.2 coming out, but that is a serious shot in the dark, would not rely on that.

She was on biobizz fixmix and algamic (sea weed extract) until a week or so ago as well. Ran out of the Algamic (actually went bad on me), and she was showing burn on the tips of the non-yellowing leaves, so I dialed the fix mix back to only once a week. Only 1/4-1/2 tsp per gallon.

She's got spider mites (no webs), just stippling on the fan leaves for at least a month.
 
Merica_Mike

Merica_Mike

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Solis Altilis said:
Fox farm ocean forest w/ ~25% perlite. No amendments.
currently only using biobizz biobloom for every watering. 1 3/4 tsps per gallon, I know that's low but it's so dry and hot she's been watered every day through out her life. So she gets fed every day as well. Because of that i dose her half strength. The temps just fell down into the 80's this week and humidity is up as well now so I might switch to watering her every other day. But when ever I don't water her for a day even if it's in the low 80's the weak yellow leaves droop and wilt hard hard. But then it's I think it's easy to get her to droop from watering as well. I'm sure I just haven't managed her wet and dry cycles well. Sometimes is 105'F w/ 15% humidity, and other times its 90'F with 50% humidity. and it drops to 65-70'F at night w/ 75-85% humidity. Sometimes there is constant 15mph winds all day long, other times its dead still.
Cheap inaccurate pH strips and drops have me between 7.0-7.5 going in w/feed
I've tried to catch water coming out, doesn't go well, maybe 5.8-6.2 coming out, but that is a serious shot in the dark, would not rely on that.

She was on biobizz fixmix and algamic (sea weed extract) until a week or so ago as well. Ran out of the Algamic (actually went bad on me), and she was showing burn on the tips of the non-yellowing leaves, so I dialed the fix mix back to only once a week. Only 1/4-1/2 tsp per gallon.

She's got spider mites (no webs), just stippling on the fan leaves for at least a month.
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Ok. With all that information I would definitely tell you to flush hard. Its good that you e been going quarter strength. But feeding every time causes salt build up. Which causes nutrient lock out. Flushing with just plain phed water will help alot. And do that every other time you water. So you feed today flush tomorrow feed the next day flush the day after. And keep that cycle. Unless she's still wet the next day. I always wait for them to get so dry the start to wilt after I flush. That way I know theres no root rot or anything. You may end up feeding one day flushing the second day, nothing on the 3rd day feed on the 4th day flush on the 5th nothing on the 6th. And try to ph your feed and flush water around 6.5ish give or take .2 as for the spider mites, if you don't want them to get worse I suggest getting a mesh screen and some poles and make a square around her. Make walls and a ceiling around her. Then go lady bug hunting. Get literally as many as you can and put them inside the mesh screen with the plant. I hope that helps you out at least some.
 
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Solis Altilis

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Merica_Mike said:
Ok. With all that information I would definitely tell you to flush hard. Its good that you e been going quarter strength. But feeding every time causes salt build up. Which causes nutrient lock out. Flushing with just plain phed water will help alot. And do that every other time you water. So you feed today flush tomorrow feed the next day flush the day after. And keep that cycle. Unless she's still wet the next day. I always wait for them to get so dry the start to wilt after I flush. That way I know theres no root rot or anything. You may end up feeding one day flushing the second day, nothing on the 3rd day feed on the 4th day flush on the 5th nothing on the 6th. And try to ph your feed and flush water around 6.5ish give or take .2 as for the spider mites, if you don't want them to get worse I suggest getting a mesh screen and some poles and make a square around her. Make walls and a ceiling around her. Then go lady bug hunting. Get literally as many as you can and put them inside the mesh screen with the plant. I hope that helps you out at least some.
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Yeah, I've been thinking she might need a good flush. I had been fooling my self agains this because I had read an email correspondence with biobizz support about dosing and frequency, and they said because their products are 100% organic you can feed with every water w/o salt build up and you won't need to flush. And they suggested feeding with every watering so that the plant didn't need to readjust for the Ph and EC variations with each watering. But I'm beginning to wonder if that doesn't apply to folks in socal who may have to water everyday, and sometimes, multiple times a day during heat waves. Unfortunately I'm in med school and just don't have a moment for an intensive flush for another few weeks. And by then she'll probably be ready for her pre harvest flush anyway. The whole situation is less than optimal.
 
Merica_Mike

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Solis Altilis said:
Yeah, I've been thinking she might need a good flush. I had been fooling my self agains this because I had read an email correspondence with biobizz support about dosing and frequency, and they said because their products are 100% organic you can feed with every water w/o salt build up and you won't need to flush. And they suggested feeding with every watering so that the plant didn't need to readjust for the Ph and EC variations with each watering. But I'm beginning to wonder if that doesn't apply to folks in socal who may have to water everyday, and sometimes, multiple times a day during heat waves. Unfortunately I'm in med school and just don't have a moment for an intensive flush for another few weeks. And by then she'll probably be ready for her pre harvest flush anyway. The whole situation is less than optimal.
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I've heard alot of people saying they dont flush I've heard alot of people say flushing is a must. I personally feel that flushing is a must. Regularly. I use FFoF soil and the dirty dozen nutrients which are supposed to be all organic as well. Ive never had a problem if I saw any kind of nute burn I flushed. But I also didn't have to water every day. Just twice a week. Nutes on Monday. Plain water on friday type of situation. I've never grown outdoors either. I want to. Just cant right now. Definitely keep going quarter strength when you feed though. Dont want to push her over the edge as stressed as she is looking already. Oh and use double the amount of water the pot could hold when you flush. 5gallon pot needing 10 gallons of plain phed water to thoroughly flush her.
 
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Solis Altilis

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Merica_Mike said:
I've heard alot of people saying they dont flush I've heard alot of people say flushing is a must. I personally feel that flushing is a must. Regularly. I use FFoF soil and the dirty dozen nutrients which are supposed to be all organic as well. Ive never had a problem if I saw any kind of nute burn I flushed. But I also didn't have to water every day. Just twice a week. Nutes on Monday. Plain water on friday type of situation. I've never grown outdoors either. I want to. Just cant right now. Definitely keep going quarter strength when you feed though. Dont want to push her over the edge as stressed as she is looking already. Oh and use double the amount of water the pot could hold when you flush. 5gallon pot needing 10 gallons of plain phed water to thoroughly flush her.
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Yep that is the block on getting a flush done. Since she' s in a 25 gallon pot, and I'm in an apartment, so no hose. 50+ gallons of water I would have to deliver through a 1.5 gallon watering can filled by my kitchen sink. Plus my slow moving filtered water tap takes about 3 minutes to fill one watering can. The time for that is just no there right now. I could speed things up by bypassing the filtered water, but then I'm worried about chlorine smoking all my soil's micro life in the last weeks of flower. I dunno, I might be able to pull it off next weekend. She's definitely not happy. Just really hoping she can make it through.
 
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Merica_Mike

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Solis Altilis said:
Yep that is the block on getting a flush done. Since she' s in a 25 gallon pot, and I'm in an apartment, so no hose. 50+ gallons of water I would have to deliver through a 1.5 gallon watering can filled by my kitchen sink. Plus my slow moving filtered water tap takes about 3 minutes to fill one watering can. The time for that is just no there right now. I could speed things up by bypassing the filtered water, but then I'm worried about chlorine smoking all my soil's micro life in the last weeks of flower. I dunno, I might be able to pull it off next weekend. She's definitely not happy. Just really hoping she can make it through.
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That's a tough one for sure. Hope you can get her through! Good luck!
 
TheGreenGreek

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New grower here. I have 1 grow under my belt from like 6 years ago. I grew White Widow. Turned out OK i guess, since I used soil, Miracle Grow nutrients and only 250w MH/HPS lighting fixture. Currently, I have a 2-12gallon bucket recirculating DWC with a 27 gallon reservoir. Using General Hydroponics liquid nutrients this time around and now growing under 2- 1200w LED's by BESTVA. Seedlings were just put under the lights yesterday.

Current temps of water fluxuates between 67.3F-69.6F
Current air temperature inside tent are 75F with a humidity of 42%
Tap Water is at 142PPM default
pH is 6.0-6.2
 
Merica_Mike

Merica_Mike

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TheGreenGreek said:
New grower here. I have 1 grow under my belt from like 6 years ago. I grew White Widow. Turned out OK i guess, since I used soil, Miracle Grow nutrients and only 250w MH/HPS lighting fixture. Currently, I have a 2-12gallon bucket recirculating DWC with a 27 gallon reservoir. Using General Hydroponics liquid nutrients this time around and now growing under 2- 1200w LED's by BESTVA. Seedlings were just put under the lights yesterday.

Current temps of water fluxuates between 67.3F-69.6F
Current air temperature inside tent are 75F with a humidity of 42%
Tap Water is at 142PPM default
pH is 6.0-6.2
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Well it sounds like your in it to win it this time! Good luck to you! Post pics so we can see those beautiful ladies!
 
Arnski5000

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Merica_Mike said:
They look healthy for sure! What kind of soil are you using? And being that young I'm not surprised that it was loose. Also at that stage you definitely want to under water like your doing. Keep it up!
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Sorry Mike only just seen this. The soil is called plant magic + I've read it's specially designed for the water around here and it does seem be doing the job. I normally use canna a and b nutes and have got 2 full bottles of this bit it's possibly 3 years old and I have read good stuff about the plant magic range so I will be starting with this all being well maybe Saturday on 1ml per litre
 
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Arnski5000 said:
Sorry Mike only just seen this. The soil is called plant magic + I've read it's specially designed for the water around here and it does seem be doing the job. I normally use canna a and b nutes and have got 2 full bottles of this bit it's possibly 3 years old and I have read good stuff about the plant magic range so I will be starting with this all being well maybe Saturday on 1ml per litre
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Its all good! I've never heard of that soil before until now. Make sure when you start adding those nutes to start at quarter strength as to not burn the plants up.
 
BazookaJoe2

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TheGreenGreek said:
New grower here. I have 1 grow under my belt from like 6 years ago. I grew White Widow. Turned out OK i guess, since I used soil, Miracle Grow nutrients and only 250w MH/HPS lighting fixture. Currently, I have a 2-12gallon bucket recirculating DWC with a 27 gallon reservoir. Using General Hydroponics liquid nutrients this time around and now growing under 2- 1200w LED's by BESTVA. Seedlings were just put under the lights yesterday.

Current temps of water fluxuates between 67.3F-69.6F
Current air temperature inside tent are 75F with a humidity of 42%
Tap Water is at 142PPM default
pH is 6.0-6.2
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Wow I’d say that’s an upgrade from the last grow! Haha you should kill it this time! Can’t wait to see pics of your setup, and watch the girls grow.
 
Arnski5000

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Merica_Mike said:
Its all good! I've never heard of that soil before until now. Make sure when you start adding those nutes to start at quarter strength as to not burn the plants up.
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First nutes added at 1ml a litre ph at 6 ish just trying 1 plant so far see what happens. Fingers crossed but my babies looking good to me. It is such a great hobby never mind the rewards
 
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likeangel said:
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Have a Nice day

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